Is Christianity Hard? Depends On What Bible Version You Read

[Enow]

If any one wonders why some saved believers thinks that christianity is supposed to be hard and difficult and that they are in the process of being saved and thus not saved yet, it could very well be because of the Bible version they are reading.

Compare Bible versions at Bible Gateway on Matthew 7:13-14 & if you scroll down some to compare 1 Corinthians 1:18.

You can switch out one of those Bible versions to compare your Bible version and see if an errant Bible version is why you or some believers thinks that christianity is supposed to be hard and difficult and in the process of being saved, but not saved yet.

I believe Matthew 7:13-14 is just pointing to the only way to approach God the Father by ( see John 14:6 ) and 1 Corinthians 1:18 is about how at the time of hearing the preaching of the cross and then believing in Him is how & when we were saved ( see 1 Corinthians 1:21 ). So beware a little leaven for it can leaven a whole lump and that is why I stick with the KJV for the meat of His words to discern good and evil teachings by, but feel free to go before that throne of grace and ask Jesus Christ to confirm His words to you as to which Bible version you should be using for keeping the faith which is the good fight. Otherwise, you would be at an impasse when errant scripture supports false teachings.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passag...orinthians+1:18&version=KJV;NIV;NKJV;ESV;NASB

 

[loveme1]

I still remember finding out there was different versions of the Bible(gobsmacked almost)... and have to say I was drawn if not lead to the kjv...

Though we have to remember that GOD is above all Transliterations... and looks at our inwards... Our Messiah would of spoken in local dialect yet His power is not limited because we learn not that dialect.. GOD be thanked..

The only thing I wonder and yet it happened in times past also is why change His name.. Joshua with the y sound is a good fit.. and even Joshua and Jesus are used as one and the same in KJV...


Yet, once again GOD knows and is above all things.

In GOD we Trust.

 

[oldethennew]

thankfully He knows all of our hearts, and how ever we were brought up to call Him,
if we truly Love Him He knows how we feel about Him, that we Love/adore Him,
no matter how we address Him - TY Loveme1...a wonderful Post...

of course we respect ALL of the names that our Bibles use to describe Him...

 

[PrynceNY]

I understand what you are saying. However its not always the bible versions. Sin is addictive and may take some a long process to completely get free from their personal struggles if it has been part of their lives along time.

 

[loveme1]

It came to me earlier...

[TABLE="class: passage-cols"]
[TR]
[TD="class: passage-col col-xs-12 first last"]Hosea 4:6King James Version (KJV)

6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

---------








lack of knowledge... the dark forces trying to keep the knowledge by authoring confusing....



[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[Bogadile]

Check out

John 3:36
1 John 5:7
Acts 8:37

while you are at it.

 

[DustyRhodes]

Bible versions are only words...What is in your heart?

 

[Meggido]

Is this really even a topic for conversion?

This ranks right up there with...

so now, people...do screen doors belong on submarines?

now discuss among yourselves....

 

[Magenta]

Bible versions are only words...What is in your heart?

[video=youtube;U1Cax99gVSA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Cax99gVSA[/video]

 

[Enow]

I know that people can use any Bible version to lead someone to salvation by the grace of God and His help.

But I am addressing those believers you come across that by erroneous verses in those modern Bibles taken out of context to support false teachings that makes christianity looks hard and that some believe that they are in the process of being saved and thus not saved yet.... if any wish to correct them from those false teachings, insist on using the KJV. By sticking to one Bible, then you can show what His word actually says so that the Lord may recover them from those false teachings.

Just sharing what can be the reason why they think that way... by errant modern Bibles that support false teachings.

Oh sure.. you could point to the salvation message in that same Bible version you are using, but with those errant verses in it, it will sow doubts in His words and so they will play it safe and continue to believe in that false teaching whereas if you show what the KJV has it, they will see what it is supposed to say so that those other verses you would use in that modern Bible to correct that believer, would come to light in how they are saved just by believing in Jesus Christ.

 

[loveme1]

Just a quick share:

Matthew 11

25At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.



No version surely can make heavy what He states is light... an easy yoke... indeed.

 

[G00WZ]

its hard if a person wants to live by the law instead of grace because they literally have to live by going down a checklist of what not to do

 

[loveme1]

its hard if a person wants to live by the law instead of grace because they literally have to live by going down a checklist of what not to do

There is no Grace without Truth and no Truth without Grace.

 

[Miri]

People struggle for all sorts of reasons, it's not the bible that's the
problem. Upbringing has a lot to do with it.

Some find it hard to understand the father's love if they were raised by
a critical or absent father.

Others have just experienced so much difficulty and trauma in life that they
find it hard to understand God's care for them.

Some lack confidence and self esteem.

While others think they know it all and might need lessons in humility.

Still others have had to deal with various addictions, phobias, unhealthy mind sets.

Some have had to deal with abuse etc.

Thank God He is a good Father and treats us all as individuals, just as any good
father should understand and realise that all children are not the same.

Im so glad my heavenly Father's understands me and I'm at His mercy and not
people on CC.

 

[posthuman]

Compare Bible versions at Bible Gateway on Matthew 7:13-14 & if you scroll down some to compare 1 Corinthians 1:18.

You can switch out one of those Bible versions to compare your Bible version and see if an errant Bible version is why you or some believers thinks that christianity is supposed to be hard and difficult and in the process of being saved, but not saved yet.

in re: 1 Corinthians 1:18 ((and look, i don't know any more about Greek than anyone else, but i know how to look things up)) there doesn't seem to be any doubt or any difference in manuscripts about how this verse reads in the original language: the scripture refers to us who are "σῳζομένοις" which is definitely present-tense, passive participle, and literally means "being saved" -- passive tense, i.e. it is God who is saving us.

what i glean from looking into it is that while an archaic sense of the word "saved" can be understood to mean an action presently being performed, it's not the most faithful translation into present-day usage of the English language, and actually other translations like the ESV and NASB are more literal renditions of this passage.

that's not the end of this story:

one can read this passage in the context - which Enow oddly enough mentions the importance of but doesn't provide - and understand that Paul is speaking of a growing body of believers - which, being framed as the ongoing work of God in man as an whole, is rightly spoken of as those who "are being saved"

one can also read this in context and in conjunction with other places in scripture which describe the ongoing work of sanctification and renewal in our lives, and the culmination of that, the redemption of our bodies, for which we & all creation eagerly yet await, even Paul again in another place readily confessing that he "has not yet attained" and understand that it is absolutely correct to speak personally of salvation as an ongoing work of God in us.

when taking this latter view, one can only make the accusation that it's "hard" or "doubtful" that salvation will be accomplished if one doubts the ability of God to complete the work which He has begun. to wit:

He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
(Philippians 1:6) ​

that's in no way understood as anything but an ongoing process.

the only way you can present the idea that our salvation is presently, passively ongoing as an "evil" or that it places "doubt" that we shall be saved is if you attack the faithfulness of the One who is the Beginning and the End of our salvation. rejecting this on the basis that it implies it may not be completed is tantamount to doubting that God is either able, willing or faithful to complete the work He began in you.

so the answer here, if you read 1 Corinthians 1:18 in whatever version actually faithfully represents the original Greek text, is not "switch to KJV because KJV is the only actual word of God" - good grief, the KJV isn't even the most literally accurate in this verse - the answer is Christ. He is faithful, and when you have the right view of God, this verse is not a problem. it's only a problem if you ignore the rest of the Bible and doubt that He is faithful.



you don't have to be scared of searching for the most accurate reading of the Greek or Hebrew. you just have to trust God.

 

[BeyondET]

[video=youtube;ClBToJfO9xo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClBToJfO9xo[/video]

 

[Enow]

Just a quick share:

Matthew 11

25At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.



No version surely can make heavy what He states is light... an easy yoke... indeed.

That is definitely a reproof for how some modern Bibles have Matthew 7:13-14 as being hard or difficult.

Jesus is our rest for our souls. He not only promised us eternal life as our Saviour by believing in Him, but He promised to help us to follow Him by faith in Him alone. Truly there is a rest for the people of God in getting to know Him & the power of His resurrection when they see themselves following Him by His power and not by their will or their religious flesh.

 

[RamahDesjardin]

Without a move of the Holy Spirit to bring liberty and confidence to a person, no Bible translation can talk them into it. For centuries when KJV was the only mainstream option, people still struggled with walking in the Spirit. Having a good translation helps, but it's not a magic bullet.

 

[lastofall]

"we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God." (Acts 14:22)

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."*(2 Timothy 3:12)

 

[BeyondET]

Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”

Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned...”

Proclamations at the Ecumenical Council of Constance in 1415 C.E.: Oxford professor, and theologian John Wycliffe, was the first (1380 C.E.) to translate the New Testament into English to “...helpeth Christian men to study the Gospel in that tongue in which they know best Christ’s sentence.” For this “heresy” Wycliffe was posthumously condemned by Arundel, the archbishop of Canterbury. By the Council’s decree “Wycliffe’s bones were exhumed and publicly burned and the ashes were thrown into the Swift River.”

Fate of William Tyndale in 1536 C.E.: William Tyndale was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English. According to Tyndale, the Church forbid owning or reading the Bible to control and restrict the teachings and to enhance their own power and importance.