Polygamy

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tourist

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#41
I think we are missing one of the most important things to consider - with every one of these wives - comes a mother-in-law...Just sayin'...selah
The whole concept is problematic. Selah indeed. :)
 

Tommy379

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#42
I'm accepting resumes from ladies who want to be one of my wives. I'll buy an old motel so everyone gets their own room. There will be a free continental breakfast every morning.
 

tribesman

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Yes, it is a sin to have more than one wife.

Deuteronomy 17:17 - Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.


1 Timothy 3:12
- Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.


Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.



Titus 1:6 - If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
This is a tough one. You do go beyond what scripture says. The NT passages you quoted actually affirms that some people at that time and culture lived in polygamous families. They were not be given certain offices, but nothing says that their families were to be broken up. Many of the believers around that time were jews, who did live that way. As much as anyone searches, scripture has no blatant statement either for or against the practice. Though certainly the NT would not condone it, there is no outright condemnation against it. Where scripture speak, we speak, where scripture is silent, we be silent. It is something to be left out and not mentioned. As is the custom in many non-western societies even today. For the one who can receive it.
 

Magenta

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#44
This is a tough one. You do go beyond what scripture says. The NT passages you quoted actually affirms that some people at that time and culture lived in polygamous families. They were not be given certain offices, but nothing says that their families were to be broken up. Many of the believers around that time were jews, who did live that way. As much as anyone searches, scripture has no blatant statement either for or against the practice. Though certainly the NT would not condone it, there is no outright condemnation against it. Where scripture speak, we speak, where scripture is silent, we be silent. It is something to be left out and not mentioned. As is the custom in many non-western societies even today. For the one who can receive it.
You must have missed this:

Malachi 2:13 Another thing you do: You flood the Lord’s altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer looks with favor on your offerings or accepts them with pleasure from your hands.

14 You ask, “Why?” It is because the Lord is the witness between you and the wife of your youth. You have been unfaithful to her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant.


15
Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring.
So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.


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“The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,”
says the Lord Almighty.

So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.

And Proverbs 5:15-23?

15 Drink water from your own cistern,
running water from your own well.

16
Should your springs overflow in the streets,
your streams of water in the public squares?

17
Let them be yours alone,
never to be shared with strangers.

18
May your fountain be blessed,
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.

19
A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breasts satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love.

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Why, my son, be intoxicated with another man’s wife?
Why embrace the bosom of a wayward woman?


21 For your ways are in full view of the Lord,
and he examines all your paths.

22
The evil deeds of the wicked ensnare them;
the cords of their sins hold them fast.

23
For lack of discipline they will die,
led astray by their own great folly.

Rejoicing in the wife of your youth cannot in any way
be taken to mean go out and find other women to bed.
May she satisfy you ALWAYS. How are people so blind to this?


 

trofimus

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#45
I think we are missing one of the most important things to consider - with every one of these wives - comes a mother-in-law...Just sayin'...selah
It actually did not matter in those times :) They were not living together and distances were too long for any frequent visits. Also, even wives needed a permission from the king to come to him, not to say mothers-in-law, he probably never met them :)
 

Magenta

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#46
Hebrews 13:4 ESV
Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed
be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.


Genesis 2:24 ESV
Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and
hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
ONE flesh, not two, three, four, or five etc


Ephesians 5:25 ESV
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Genesis 2:18 ESV
Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man
should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.”

God gave one man one woman, not multiples.

Ephesians 5:33 ESV
However, let each one of you love his wife as himself,
and let the wife see that she respects her husband.


Matthew 5:28 ESV
But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful
intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Romans 12:1-2 ESV
I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Matthew 19:6 ESV
So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore
God has joined together, let not man separate.

Again, ONE flesh.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 ESV
For this is the will of God, your sanctification:
that you abstain from sexual immorality;


Ephesians 5:1-33 ESV
Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Ecclesiastes 9:9 ESV
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life and in your toil at which you toil under the sun.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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#47
This is a tough one. You do go beyond what scripture says. The NT passages you quoted actually affirms that some people at that time and culture lived in polygamous families. They were not be given certain offices, but nothing says that their families were to be broken up. Many of the believers around that time were jews, who did live that way. As much as anyone searches, scripture has no blatant statement either for or against the practice. Though certainly the NT would not condone it, there is no outright condemnation against it. Where scripture speak, we speak, where scripture is silent, we be silent. It is something to be left out and not mentioned. As is the custom in many non-western societies even today. For the one who can receive it.
i disagree

scripture makes it clear as day....
 
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This is a tough one. You do go beyond what scripture says. The NT passages you quoted actually affirms that some people at that time and culture lived in polygamous families. They were not be given certain offices, but nothing says that their families were to be broken up. Many of the believers around that time were jews, who did live that way. As much as anyone searches, scripture has no blatant statement either for or against the practice. Though certainly the NT would not condone it, there is no outright condemnation against it. Where scripture speak, we speak, where scripture is silent, we be silent. It is something to be left out and not mentioned. As is the custom in many non-western societies even today. For the one who can receive it.

Great insight inclusive of history for illustration.
 

miknik5

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It meant something different in the OT times than today. David, who was according to the heart of God and Jesus is called his son, would be a mass adulterer.

Similarly with Abraham.
Yes...there was some...spiritual connection...and confusion (until the SPIRIT would come and teach us what was hidden from us)...tied to having many...brides.
 

miknik5

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#52
I can't believe David is being slated like that....
Psalm 51 shows that Nathan told David his sin and David became aware that he had done evil in the sight of GOD
 

miknik5

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Why not?

2 Samuel 12:9
Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites.
And Psalm 51
 

p_rehbein

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What level of suffering must a man desire to actually WANT MORE THAN ONE WIFE?

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NoNameMcgee

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No, it does not say what you what to put into it. But you are entitled to your own opinion.
i added my opinion (one sentence) to many verses.....

you just stated several opinions back to back in a long paragraph with no scripture

many verses point to multiple wives leading to trouble

or making it so someone is no longer blameless

not one suggests it is a good thing

i guess it may be possible not to be counted as sin for some but it would count as sin against me

so i answered honestly

James 4:17

17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Deuteronomy 17:17 - Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.


Hosea 4
comes to mind even speaking of this




i doubt this is something we can agree on at the moment

since you dont see what i see in the scriptures
 
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#58
No, it does not say what you what to put into it. But you are entitled to your own opinion.

There's a significant degree of emotionalism and lack of comprehension over this practice. "Well if i don't like it, if it's abnormal to society i'll some how say the bible never advocated it". It doesn't work that way. We take the bible for what it is, God's ultimate word, and the reality is, irrespective of how many tantrums are thrown, polygamy was acceptable.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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There's a significant degree of emotionalism and lack of comprehension over this practice. "Well if i don't like it, if it's abnormal to society i'll some how say the bible never advocated it". It doesn't work that way. We take the bible for what it is, God's ultimate word, and the reality is, irrespective of how many tantrums are thrown, polygamy was acceptable.
Can you name even one verse that says it was acceptable to God?
 

Magenta

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Can you name even one verse that says it was acceptable to God?
There are none, compared to those I gave about remaining FAITHFUL to the wife of your youth.