ARE THERE APOSTLES OF CHRIST TODAY?

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ARE THERE APOSTLES OF CHRIST TODAY?

  • Yes, there are apostles of Christ today

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • No, there are no apostles of Christ today

    Votes: 8 47.1%

  • Total voters
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#21
An apostle is a true Christian sent with the gospel, the binding authority of God, sent in a hope the Holy Spirit will apply his word to their heart.

The word apostle is a Greek word simply mans sent one. It is not used just in a religious setting .It can be used when sending a person to the store or borrow an egg from a neighbor. Moses was an apostle is the truest sense of the word as were all the prophets sent to declare the word of God. A prophet declares the word. When prophets are sent they are called apostles. When the great commission had began God sent them (apostles) out two by two.

A false prophet is one that declares the will of another other than the word of God sending out a false prophet makes up a false apostles. If a person thinks God has given a person the desire to serve him today and they bring the gospel they are just as much an apostle as was any of the twelve.

Twelve is a remnant of all the apostles listed. I think the new testament names 25 .There are no more requirements other than a desire to go with the word of God .

You could say those who post here in a hope of declaring the gospel are apostles.

For some reason the word has had new meaning added to it .Most likely by the Catholics who abuse the word and turn it into a succession of men (apostolical succession )in order to take away the authority of ….all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) They would be false prophets as well as false apostles.

Twelve is the number word that is used in parables to represent the authority of God. The Holy Spirit uses twelve tribes as gates by which we enter fellowship and twelve apostles to represent the walls of the city that is shown coming down from heaven prepared as His one bride.

The idea of us venerating (a form of worship),men because God sends the to declare His will is not a biblical idea. We venerate God alone not men that the Holy Spirit works in to both will and do His good pleasure

Just as Judas was taken away as a sign of rebellion is removed from the description of the bride of Christ. Dan is removed from the description of the bride representing the whole church.

Twelve is the number God was shooting for to be used in various parable

13-1=12
 
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miknik5

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#22
An apostle is a true Christian sent with the gospel, the binding authority of God, sent in a hope the Holy Spirit will apply his word to their heart.

The word apostle is a Greek word simply mans sent one. It is not used just in a religious setting .It can be used when sending a person to the store or borrow an egg from a neighbor. Moses was an apostle is the truest sense of the word as were all the prophets sent to declare the word of God. A prophet declares the word. When prophets are sent they are called apostles. When the great commission had began God sent them (apostles) out two by two.

A false prophet is one that declares the will of another other than the word of God sending out a false prophet makes up a false apostles. If a person thinks God has given a person the desire to serve him today and they bring the gospel they are just as much an apostle as was any of the twelve.

Twelve is a remnant of all the apostles listed. I think the new testament names 25 .There are no more requirements other than a desire to go with the word of God .

You could say those who post here in a hope of declaring the gospel are apostles.

For some reason the word has had new meaning added to it .Most likely by the Catholics who abuse the word and turn it into a succession of men (apostolical succession )in order to take away the authority of ….all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) They would be false prophets as well as false apostles.

Twelve is the number word that is used in parables to represent the authority of God. The Holy Spirit uses twelve tribes as gates by which we enter fellowship and twelve apostles to represent the walls of the city that is shown coming down from heaven prepared as His one bride.

The idea of us venerating (a form of worship),men because God sends the to declare His will is not a biblical idea. We venerate God alone not men that the Holy Spirit works in to both will and do His good pleasure

Just as Judas was taken away as a sign of rebellion is removed from the description of the bride of Christ. Dan is removed from the description of the bride representing the whole church.

Twelve is the number God was shooting for to be used in various parable

13-1=12
Who said anything about honoring the 12 apostles?
they give structure and borders so that no man should go above or lay more than what has been given
 
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These days, "Apostle" is nothing more than a self-proclaimed religious title assumed by cultish-leaders of gullible members of usually Fundamentalist congregations. Although it does seem that most people in the pulpit feel a need to proclaim some sort of religious-sounding title for themselves.... when Jesus told us, specifically, not to do that.
 
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A "sent one"

A servant sent.

So simple.

Since I don't believe in the man from Krypton, I wouldn't believe in spiritual supermen, either.

The only "giants" were those killed in the OT.

The reason nobody believes in them is because they hold them waay too high in the clouds, & can't see them.
 
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These days, "Apostle" is nothing more than a self-proclaimed religious title assumed by cultish-leaders of gullible members of usually Fundamentalist congregations. Although it does seem that most people in the pulpit feel a need to proclaim some sort of religious-sounding title for themselves.... when Jesus told us, specifically, not to do that.
I agree. I personally don't agree with "titles" like Apostle so-and so. Prophet so-and-so. Also if we would be honest - the same goes for Pastor so-and-so. It is a title and is no different than someone who uses the terms Apostle Frank or Prophet Joe.

None of these things are a "stumbling block" for me to learn what the Spirit is saying through them when teaching.

Paul never went by the title Apostle Paul - he said he was an apostle sent by God to deliver the mystery of the gospel which is Christ Himself and the riches of that mystery is Christ is in us.
 
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Ephesians 4:11 And He personally gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,

thats enough for me.......... it dont say that the apostles are gonna go away?????? i dont believe there are any big time apostles like paul anymore who can write scripture......... but some 'sent out ones' ye.......
 

miknik5

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Ephesians 4:11 And He personally gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,

thats enough for me.......... it dont say that the apostles are gonna go away?????? i dont believe there are any big time apostles like paul anymore who can write scripture......... but some 'sent out ones' ye.......
As long as you are following the same model as depicted in Acts 2 and are doing the same thing as the first church was doing

and also devoting yourself to the apostles' teachings which are clearly given in HIS WORD

As long as you aren't bringing "another gospel" "a new way" and do not accept those who do
 
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Who said anything about honoring the 12 apostles?
they give structure and borders so that no man should go above or lay more than what has been given
I did not say you did I said some what to make them more than us .

The word apostle without any extra meaning added to it mean “sent ones” nothng more and nothing less. He sends us out even to today by faith two by two. Two represents the bride of Christ the church she is made up of Old Testament saints typified as gates in respect to tribes, and the word apostles to represent walls of the New Testament believers.the one spiritual house of God made up of many lively stones



And these things, brethren, I have in a figure (parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it? 1Co 4:6

We are not to think of any man to include the apostles above that which is written. What we have received as apostleship is what has been freely given to us.

Again 13-1=12

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.Rev 21:1

She as many lively stones that make up the one spiritual house of God represents the unseen glory of God

(Purple in parentheses’) my comments

Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:(used to represent the saints on the old testement side of the cross with the tribe of Dan missing ) On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.(apostles used to represent the same bride in respect to all the saints on this side with Judas missing ) Rev 21:11-14

Both Judas and Dan used to represent natural unconverted man .
 
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& Barnabas14 Silas15 Titus16 Timothy17 Apollos 18, Junia19, etc.
 

posthuman

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i'd say we don't have "apostles" among us today, properly, but we have "super-apostles" for sure

I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me!
I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough!
I do not think I am in the least inferior to those “super-apostles:”I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge.

(1 Corinthians 11:1-5)
 

Nehemiah6

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Look like there are 13 apostle, they replace Judas with Mathias, It make 12, than Paul is number 13.
Matthias was simply a temporary "fill-in". The apostle Paul would have replaced Judas, given that he was especially selected by God and Christ to (1) become the apostle to the Gentiles while preaching in Jewish synagogues wherever he traveled, (2) become the writer of over half the New Testament, and (3) become the missionary who traveled all over the Roman Empire to preach the Gospel and establish churches.

But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake. (Acts 9:15,16).

As to the OP, there are NO genuine apostles today, and those who say they are are "false apostles".
 
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jb

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Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers are still set in the Church (the Body of Christ) by God today! 1Cor 12v28, Eph 4v7-16.

To say differently is absolute nonsense.

For those interested you can find a study Here on the ministeries that God sets in the body of Christ.
 

miknik5

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Look like there are 13 apostle, they replace Judas with Mathias, It make 12, than Paul is number 13.
The final answer is 12
Who they are I don't know.

There are 24 elders depicted, sir.
Can we add one more to the 12 who are those who represent the apostles?


No.

Can we add one more to the 12 who are those who represent the 12 tribes of Israel?

No.

Revelation 21
 

miknik5

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& Barnabas14 Silas15 Titus16 Timothy17 Apollos 18, Junia19, etc.
who learned and devoted themselves ALSO to the teachings of THOSE 12 APOSTLES
And did not change any of the teachings of THOSE 12 APOSTLES

(Reference Acts 2 and Revelation 21 and 1 Corinthians 3 with regards to adding to THE FOUNDATION)
 
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miknik5

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Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers are still set in the Church (the Body of Christ) by God today! 1Cor 12v28, Eph 4v7-16.

To say differently is absolute nonsense.

For those interested you can find a study Here on the ministeries that God sets in the body of Christ.
WITNESSES who hold to ONE TESTIMONY....JESUS...and lay no other material to THE FOUNDATION...
 
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It does worry me that some have voted that there are no apostles today.
The Church is an eternal institution with continuing office of all the things listed in Ephesians.
 

miknik5

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It does worry me that some have voted that there are no apostles today.
The Church is an eternal institution with continuing office of all the things listed in Ephesians.
Witnesses.
Ambassadors


But no more Apostles...in that nothing more will be laid outside of the teachings of these 12 Apostles.


And don't call yourself a prophet or an Apostle.
Call yourself a WITNESS and point only to JESUS.
 

notuptome

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There are those who do the work of an apostle just like those who do the work of an evangelist but there are no apostles save those who are false in their ministry and prophecy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger