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    Quote Originally Posted by JairCrawford View Post
    Heaven is essentially, the new Eden.
    Or to put it another way Paradise (formerly Eden) -- along with the Tree of Life -- is now in the New Jerusalem, which is in Heaven. There will be no earthly "restoration" of Eden. It is far too late for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    Or to put it another way Paradise (formerly Eden) -- along with the Tree of Life -- is now in the New Jerusalem, which is in Heaven. There will be no earthly "restoration" of Eden. It is far too late for that.
    However the Kingdom of Heaven has already infiltrated the earth. So, there is a restoration of sorts. While the world spirals the Bride will shine in the last days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JairCrawford View Post
    However the Kingdom of Heaven has already infiltrated the earth. So, there is a restoration of sorts. While the world spirals the Bride will shine in the last days.
    How can there be "a restoration of sorts" when this earth will be supernaturally burned up?

    But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? (2 Pet 3:10-12).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    How can there be "a restoration of sorts" when this earth will be supernaturally burned up?
    I sometimes use the term "restore" to indicate that the relationship (lost when Adam and Eve sinned) with God is to be restored through reconciliation via Christ' sacrifice in payment for the sins of those who come to believe, by grace through faith. Restoration is a synonym of reconciliation Of course they were still mortal when all of creation fell as a result of their sin, and we are to be made to live ever after following the resurrection and judgment of all... so it will be better than a restoration.
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    We have been restored to the garden, being the Bride of Christ. We eat from the tree of life which is communion, the bread and wine. The life of Jesus.

    We don't return to the knowledge of good and evil, law, but are of grace. Freedom to walk with our God, through mutual love.
    1Th 3:12 May the Lord greatly increase your love for each other and for all people, just as we love you.


    1Th 3:13 Then your hearts will be strong, blameless, and holy in the presence of God, who is our Father, when our Lord Jesus appears with all his saints.





    Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    Why are you using 365 days when the prophetic year is 360 days? So don't be surprised if your math is off.
    The solar year is 365.25 days

    The Hebrew Calendar lunar /solar year is 354 days[ or 384 days] with an extra 30 day month added 7 times in a 19 year cycle.

    354 * 12 + 384 *7 =6936. 365.25*19= 6939.75

    The discrepency is made up by adding an extra day to the 8th or ninth month 3 or 4 times in a 19 year 19 year cycle.

    the 360 day year is found only in Daniel except where Daniel is quoted in Revelation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    How can there be "a restoration of sorts" when this earth will be supernaturally burned up?

    But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? (2 Pet 3:10-12).
    I am not talking about the earth itsself, but the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. It is a restoration of His Bride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcR View Post
    ...the 360 day year is found only in Daniel except where Daniel is quoted in Revelation.
    And this is all that we are talking about.

    SATAN AND THE ANTICHRIST IN FULL CONTROL FOR 3 1/2 YEARS

    And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty
    and two months.
    (Rev 13:5).

    And he shall speak
    great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
    (Dan 7:25)

    And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week [7 years]: and in the midst of the week [3 1/2 years] he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...
    (Dan 9:27).

    And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. (Dan 12:7)

    But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. (Rev 11:2).

    And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days [1,260 days], clothed in sackcloth. (Rev 11:3).

    And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days [1,260 days]. (Rev 12:6)

    And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev 12:14).

    So to sum up using a 30 day month and a 12 month year:

    1,260 days/30 = 42 months

    42 months/12 = 3 1/2 years

    TIME = 1 YR
    TIMES = 2 YEARS
    HALF A TIME = 6 MONTHS

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