The Sumerian Tablets? - Bible?

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Jakob

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So lately i've been reading/watching a lot about the Sumerian creation stories. I have been careful, tried with an open mind.
Yet the tablets has been found, and has been dated.
One thing I dont understand is about it, is the creation story of Sumerian, and the biblical story about Adam and Eve.
Sumerians basically wrote how they took DNA from God, and planted to Adam, and then same with Eve, right?

Anyone know more about the Sumerians than I do? Which is little, i just dont understand how it was written SOOO long ago, yet with so many biblical reference and similarities.
 

trofimus

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Sumerian texts are the oldest ones which we, as humanity, have. 3000 BC.

Because that culture was so ancient (and therefore relatively close to creation, flood etc), I am not very surprised that their myths got many things right or roughly right.

And I think some sources were (through Babylon) used also in the Bible (with inspiration) in the similar way as Luke used Roman/Jewish sources with inspiration.
 
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Do not believe anything they tell you. There is an agenda with the sumerian tablets and all other "discoveries".
Gnosis (science) falsely so called.
 

tanakh

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I should know a lot about the Sumerians because I had a history Teacher who droned on about them at every opportunity. The only thing I remember him saying in those far off days was that they invented door hinges by attaching wooden poles to them. This bit of useless information has stuck with me for fifty plus years lol
 

Jakob

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Hahha that's funny Tanakh.

I'd like to know more about them, cause i think it is weird. How they explained the flood, and adam and eve, and knew about the solar system etc. I also believed they used sound waves to do different stuff, which is better than what we use :p
You can litteraly levitate water drops, or anything, still in the air, with sound waves on different Hz and frequences. Weird to think about it in a larger scale.
 

valiant

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If you actually READ the ancient creation myth as THEY ARE, and not through someone's interpretation, you will find they are not very similar to the Bible account (except superficially), and are basically acts of the gods.
 

Laish

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Well there are some problems with those tables. They are not complete. Folks with a anti Christian agenda have filled in the missing pices of the tablet with text that make it looks like Christians or Jews copied the clay tablets. So many tablet readings are unreliable. That with wishful thinking on a translators part can lead folks astray . If you have ever looked up only what is found vs what they believe the tablet says you may be surprised.
Blessings
Bill
 

Kavik

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Both cultures are Semitic and, generally speaking, all Semitic cultures share a common creation myth/story/legend – Each one tells it a bit differently from their culture’s point of view, so to speak, but essentially, they’re all the same underlying story.

These similarities are not at all uncommon (the flood narrative is another) and in fact, I think would be kind of very unusual if such similarities didn’t exist between narratives of this type.

Keep in mind too that these types of stories/myths/legends were passed on orally for who knows how long before they were ever committed to writing and not everyone committed them to writing all at the same time – someone had to do it first, so it may look like such-and-such culture/people had the story first, but it's more likely everyone had it at the same time; it may be that they were just the first to write the thing down.

Translations may not be complete insofar as the text may only be so long and either cuts the story off or only tells a small part of it, but the translations themselves are as accurate as possible. That said, as mentioned, there may be plenty of ‘interpretations’ of a particular story which embellishes it with things that were never in the original translation. Best to try and go with as literal a translation possible.

There’s plenty of ancient knowledge that has been lost through the ages. Then, just as now, people are quick to rely on the “latest and greatest” in technology and as we do so, these older ways of doing things get easily forgotten when modern technology is relied on. 'Modern', of course, being relative to the time one is discussing.

A quick case in point – I’d be surprised if anyone under the age of, I dare say even 30, really knows how to properly make use of a Library; back in the ‘dark ages’ before there were home computers/internet, you didn’t Google something, you went to the Library and did research. Another quick example of 'lost knowledge' - quick measurement of angles hold your hand out with your thumb directly pointing 'skyward' - the angles to each finger is approx. 90, 60, 45, and 30 degrees respectively. A handy quick reference that I'd be willing to bet was used quite frequently, but as we developed 'tools' and whatnot for measuring, these types of things passed into obsolescence and were soon forgotten.

The skies (astronomy) is another good one – at that time, once it got dark out, it was either a fire, lamp or candle – place yourself about a mile or so from the town, and it was pitch black; everywhere. The skies/starts, etc. would have appeared incredibly brighter than they’ll ever be in today’s modern world (unless you go to some incredibly remote region). They (the skies/astronomy) were much more easy to observe and study.

My point is that we may marvel and wonder how such a certain thing was accomplished when it ‘can’t be reproduced with ‘modern technology’, but I think that’s a very modern mindset of sorts; obviously ‘modern technology’ wasn’t needed – just good old fashioned know how that has long been forgotten.
 

Zmouth

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So lately i've been reading/watching a lot about the Sumerian creation stories. I have been careful, tried with an open mind.
Yet the tablets has been found, and has been dated.
They dated them? Yet they only found them in the 1800's. When you say dated you might want to investigate that a little more.

Carbon dating is a widely-used technique for determining the age of archaeological discoveries, but the method only works on artifacts made from carbon-containing organic matter, like wood or cotton. For clay pottery, archaeomagnetic specialist Michele Stillinger of the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis showed that a magnetic method might work.


One thing I dont understand is about it, is the creation story of Sumerian, and the biblical story about Adam and Eve. Sumerians basically wrote how they took DNA from God, and planted to Adam, and then same with Eve, right?

Anyone know more about the Sumerians than I do? Which is little, i just dont understand how it was written SOOO long ago, yet with so many biblical reference and similarities.
If the stories were written before the Biblical scriptures that would indicate that the Bible was copied from the them.

Actually, the story goes that living God manifested in the flesh and using the DNA from his rib, God genetically cloned each of the males in his 'likeness' which is to say that they had a unique gene of his image. By clone I simply mean in the simplest of terms, genetically reproduced or made the physical body of man.

While the concept of cloning is often considered absurd by many Bible readers, the scriptures themselves say that the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man and removed a rib the man and closed up the flesh thereof. However, if not mistaken, didn't the Sumerian account also say that the 'woman' made from the Man was the male and female of one flesh, or the one likeness which were made from the rib of the Man.

Since you cannot make a reproductive female from the DNA of a single male since a male has the [x][y] chromosome, therefore if you cloned it then the DNA of the male then the clone would only contain the [x][y] chromosome. Therefore in order to produce the [x][x] chromosome you would need to clone an addition male in order to replace the one [y]chromosome of the male to with the [x] chromosone in order to produce DNA with an [x][x] chromosome. Hence the mystical 'serpent' in the Genesis account.

Thus, if you listen you will Dawkins say that man didn't originate from a single progenitor, nor from a set of procreators but rather man originated from three; Mitochondrial Eve, Y Chromosome Adam and our most recent common ancestor. It almost sounds like they are using the scriptures to form the basis of their theory. [@ 1:15]


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