Where Does Jesus Speak about the Millennium (Continued)

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oldhermit

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Regardless of how one may perceive this particular point the fact remains that Jerusalem was still a tributary kingdom who gave their power to the beast. Chapters 11, 17, and 18 are quite clear that this is speaking of Jerusalem, the place "where also the Lord was crucified."
 
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The ten horns are those ten future kings of the ten-toed kingdom, who will rule with the beast and will give all of their power and authority to the beast. These will be those future kings of the ten-toed kingdom which is yet to come.

AMEN...based upon post 17...is does no good to debate the all knowing one......He is never wrong and sets the standard for biblical understanding........!
 

iamsoandso

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Check the history. I think I am right about his return to Jerusalem.
but then I would have to determine if Babylon is the Jews who are at war with Rome between ad66-70 or if Babylon is the Herod family who were in support of Rome. In the end all those who were involved in the revolt did not bow down to Rome nor use their money(they printed their own and revolted)...
 

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but then I would have to determine if Babylon is the Jews who are at war with Rome between ad66-70 or if Babylon is the Herod family who were in support of Rome. In the end all those who were involved in the revolt did not bow down to Rome nor use their money(they printed their own and revolted)...
Babylon is not representative of the Jews as a whole but the city of Jerusalem. Not all Jews were unfaithful.
 

iamsoandso

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Babylon is not representative of the Jews as a whole but the city of Jerusalem. Not all Jews were unfaithful.
were those in the siege Babylon being destroyed because they worshipped the image or did they refuse to do so and were slain?
 

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but then I would have to determine if Babylon is the Jews who are at war with Rome between ad66-70 or if Babylon is the Herod family who were in support of Rome. In the end all those who were involved in the revolt did not bow down to Rome nor use their money(they printed their own and revolted)...
Still, the history is against her. Even IF one could argue that by 66 AD Jerusalem has ceased to have a representative king, she had still up to that time been represented by a king who had given his power to the beast. The indictment against the city was for a number of crimes against God and against his people. This is why judgment was pronounced against her.
 

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Still, the history is against her. Even IF one could argue that by 66 AD Jerusalem has ceased to have a representative king, she had still up to that time been represented by a king who had given his power to the beast. The indictment against the city was for a number of crimes against God and against his people. This is why judgment was pronounced against her.
that would mean God destroyed them after they repented,they revolted.
 

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that would mean God destroyed them after they repented,they revolted.
They did not repent. Do not confuse revolt against Rome with repentance for their sins against God. They were still greatly involved in the persecution of the saints.
 
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that would mean God destroyed them after they repented,they revolted.
At the end of the day...BABYLON A.D. is not Jerusalem.....the KINGS of the earth do not meet in Jerusalem...the articles of trade, deep water ports and items listed in Revelation are not traded in Jerusalem, The merchants of the earth who trade by sea are not made rich by this listed trade by sea found in Revelation as Jerusalem has NO DEEP water PORTS and SHE has NOT made the merchants of the earth rich......! It is ridiculous to assume that Babylon A.D. as spoken of by John is Jerusalem.........she is not destroyed in an attack where ALL who trade by sea stand afar off for fear of her torment.
 
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oldhermit

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At the end of the day...BABYLON A.D. is not Jerusalem.....the KINGS of the earth do not meet in Jerusalem...the articles of trade, deep water ports and items listed in Revelation are not traded in Jerusalem, The merchants of the earth who trade by sea are not made rich by this listed trade by sea found in revelation......! It is ridiculous to assume that Babylon A.D. as spoken of by john is Jerusalem.........
I doubt seriously you even read post #6 to even know what you are arguing against.
 

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Regardless of post 6, 23, or 999 if it gets this far...my points stand!
Ok DC. I am going to cut it off right here. I have responded to enough of your posts and have accomplished nothing. There is no point in you and I continuing this.
 
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Ok DC. I am going to cut it off right here. I have responded to enough of your posts and have accomplished nothing. There is no point in continuing this.
AMEN................!
 

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Nonsense. You are in over your head here. Perhaps you need to pick on someone else.
Yeah, good scriptural come-back there! I am zealous for the truth and accuracy of God's word. Therefore, when I see those who are distorting the word of God as you do, then I contend for it. I know the word of God and I know of what I am talking about.

You are not as wise as you think that you are. You have been deceived and that will become apparent when you observe that charismatic political leader establish his seven year covenant with Israel allowing her to build her temple, which will then be followed by God's wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments.

I can assure you that I am not in over my head, as you claim. And you should consider the fact that every time you go before people to teach, that all you are doing is passing along those false teachings.

Preterism is one of the most destructive heresies in the world today.
 

iamsoandso

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That is the way I see it.

Which of the two though,one is destroyed by God because they worshipped the beast and the other is killed by the beast because they would not?
 
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LOL! No, it isn't! You're just repeating the false teachings that you have adopted. The woman of Rev.12 is not the same woman of Rev.17-18.
The scripture uses two woman in parables. One to represent the bride of Christ the church and the other the (strange woman) to represent natural unconverted mankind.The queen in Rev 17 included.

The woman in Revelation 12 is the bride of Christ, our husband.

The strange woman represents a outward Jew in respect to the flesh. Jewish flesh according to John 6 profits for nothing.

Judges 11:2 And Gilead's wife bare him sons; and his wife's sons grew up, and they thrust out Jephthah, and said unto him, Thou shalt not inherit in our father's house; for thou art the son of a strange woman.


Proverbs 2:16 To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;


Proverbs 5:3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:


Proverbs 5:20 And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger?


Proverbs 6:24 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.


Proverbs 7:5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.


Proverbs 20:16 Take his garment that is surety for a stranger: and take a pledge of him for a strange woman.