Science and the Teachings of Jesus

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I'm pretty sure its a nice song, i have not heard it.
 
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Should shut this thread down.....foolish talk.....
 
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Ahhhhh!!!!!! They're gonna kill us dear, shoot them hearts!!
 
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justoneman said:
Thank you for not going the ad hominem route, as others have.
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So you believe in GOD and Jesus..

Do you believe you have sinned against your Creator?

You seem to be exploring the inner you... and noticing much about your surroundings... I agree with the Time although it remains the same tick tick on the clock it is faster than our youth.. so our perception of times changes as we age. Our awareness changes as our mortal grows..

Now, we have all come short of the glory of GOD we have sinned.

The Good News is GOD is offering forgiveness and if we believe we can be born again of the Holy Spirit by Grace through Faith in the Messiah.

Repent and believe and the power of GOD will make you a new and you will be reconciled with GOD who is a Spirit and you will be able to worship Him in Spirit and Truth.

There is no other way to be saved.. though you know good and evil without the New seed you are condemned if you choose not to Repent and believe.


You can not pardon yourself my friend even though you search deep.. there is only one answer to your exploring..

GOD is good and love but there is only one way to be reconciled with Him.


May you come to Repent and believe.


peace and love.
 
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loveme1 said:
So you believe in GOD and Jesus..

Do you believe you have sinned against your Creator?

I believe my conduct to date has been irreconcilable with what you refer to as "God" and I refer to as "creation". My own life is a fundamental imbalance of some kind. As such I know the only problem in the whole of creation is the problem within myself. That is why I trust the science of the teachings of Jesus; I understand he portrays himself as an empty vessel; just one man alone by himself, but he subtly suggests that he is one with "the Father".

Jesus spoke Aramaic; there are substantially fewer words available in such a language as compared to English. When you choose an Aramaic word, you choose it carefully, and you choose it wisely, not for what it describes (physically), but for the qualities implied by the word itself (symbolic).

For example, "father" is one who:
Begets the son, nurtures the son, teaches the son, instructs the son, disciplines the son wherever necessary, holds the son accountable etc.

Thus when Jesus said he and "the Father" were one; "the Father" is in him, and HE IS IN YOU, he is:

1. Portraying himself as "alone I am just a man"
2. Thereby placing his "status" EQUAL to the common man. (This is where Christians fell to the Roman dogma: the flipped Jesus from "alone just a man", which is THE ENTIRE BASIS OF HIS TEACHING, and made him God in the flesh. Do you see the deception which has been used?
3. He (being equal to you) is in you, thereby placing the "vessel" of his own being directly inside of YOU.
4. NOW: Your eye be single and be one with "the Father" and pay ABSOLUTE ATTENTION at all times; no judgment of good/evil (tree of knowledge of good/evil=dead) which is "take no thought" as he repeated over and over.
5. Christ thus becomes again through yourself, BECAUSE HE IS IN YOU.

You seem to be exploring the inner you... and noticing much about your surroundings... I agree with the Time although it remains the same tick tick on the clock it is faster than our youth.. so our perception of times changes as we age. Our awareness changes as our mortal grows..

It is good to hear some agreement somewhere.

Now, we have all come short of the glory of GOD we have sinned.

You have come short of the "standard" the dogmas have set upon you; I do say you are the creator of your own experience; they make you think not because it is they who enter not within themselves (the dogma makers). I mentioned in a previous post:

When you dream at night, you are simultaneously creating and experience a subjective experienced within yourself; requiring no outside resources other than your own. Now this "creation" mechanism within you is lighting the world you perceive; you may perceive it not now, but your life energies (and how much of them are "truly" your own and not sanctioned away to deception of dogma) are what is lighting the world in which you experience "life". As such, you are AS JESUS SAID IT IS NOT WRITTEN that you are the damn Gods! You just are not one with "the Father" because if you were, it is as to become lucid and "become like God" by realizing the whole good and evil delusion (forbidden fruits) which are best reflected in the physical world as, you guessed it, dogmatic religion. Which institution in the world do you believe holds the most currency in the debate regarding good and evil? That would be, religion itself. It is the deception, and it runs insanely (literally) deep in these days. That is until people wake up and realize (accept), lest any man DENY HIMSELF (Christ) AND TAKE HIS OWN DAMN CROSS. It is a matter of acceptance; you either accept, or you do not. Red pill, blue pill.

The Good News is GOD is offering forgiveness and if we believe we can be born again of the Holy Spirit by Grace through Faith in the Messiah.

The Messiah must return only within you; you must see this, for how could the story of Jesus be eternal in truth if it not be the story of every man who lives? This is why the Apostles creed was so important; it was the narrative that best reflected the story of every man.

Repent and believe and the power of GOD will make you a new and you will be reconciled with GOD who is a Spirit and you will be able to worship Him in Spirit and Truth.

There is what you refer to as your "self" and creation; relative to your own life experience, you are the only imbalance in the whole of it. As Jesus dies for the sins of mankind from your perspective; so does man die due to his inability to eat from the tree of knowledge of good/evil, which is the source of death itself. You must eliminate "take no thought" all thought from mind, including Roman backwards-assed dogma, and actually simply become one with (if your eye be single, body will fill with light) "the Father", or creation, or God, or Buddha, or Krishna, or Allah or whatever is your God; fundamentally, there is only ONE; and you're the act within your own life experience, relative to you.

There is no other way to be saved.. though you know good and evil without the New seed you are condemned if you choose not to Repent and believe.

You can not pardon yourself my friend even though you search deep.. there is only one answer to your exploring..

GOD is good and love but there is only one way to be reconciled with Him.

Jesus himself wouldn't even let people call him GOOD, let alone God, for a good God damned reason, being..

May you come to Repent and believe.

...don't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and "believe" what they tell you; christ is within each man who will ever live, including you, because as they say; that art thou; or, you're it. You're the cosmic act.

Some cultures in the East call it "the cosmic joke"; that art thou; you're it; peek-a-boo etc. No? Don't worry enlightenment happens to everyone guaranteed; it's just that the vast majority of people only realize at the moment of death. I described the process of time speeding up upon death; this will display the totality of the final outcome.

That's why Jesus said he is the alpha and omega; beginning and end; first and last; and that which is in him is also in you; but you can only grasp the IMMENSITY of this if you applied the "just one man" concept correctly; Jesus is the empty vessel to be placed upon your own "lamp" or body. The (parable) teachings apply thereafter thus. But hey, no, Jesus is God! And the savior stuff starts etc.

peace and love.
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I don't mean to offend; the same to you. But for me, peace and love are inner states of being that can only be generated by ourselves, within ourselves, along with where everything else is being generated (within). Why else do you think Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within? I read some of these Christians, or I might say Jesusicians with how the authorities have contorted everything upon its own head, people seem more like they are suffering not meeting the "expectations" of their creator because the Church made God's approval something that could never be met. That is why Jesus sits upon a pedestal so high as to be God in the flesh; it beckons people to lower themselves to such suffering for not having "served" etc. This is just a sick mind; dogma by design.

Row row row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily merrily merrily merrily
Life

Is But

...a dream.

Goodnight, and good fortune.
 
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justoneman said:
I don't mean to offend; the same to you. But for me, peace and love are inner states of being that can only be generated by ourselves, within ourselves, along with where everything else is being generated (within). Why else do you think Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within? I read some of these Christians, or I might say Jesusicians with how the authorities have contorted everything upon its own head, people seem more like they are suffering not meeting the "expectations" of their creator because the Church made God's approval something that could never be met. That is why Jesus sits upon a pedestal so high as to be God in the flesh; it beckons people to lower themselves to such suffering for not having "served" etc. This is just a sick mind; dogma by design.

Row row row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily merrily merrily merrily
Life

Is But

...a dream.

Goodnight, and good fortune.
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I'm not offended you are exercising your free will and your belief is what it is because you have not believed.

I don't wish to argue with you I have my beliefs and the Truth remains always.

I have not been taught dogma... and I was in great distress and grieved when the invisible became visible within.

Now it was GOD's Amazing Grace that taught me to fear and GOD's Grace that relieved those fears.. I was blind but now I see and I was lost but am now found.

Believe to see... not see to believe.

I was free of men's doctrine or denomination a dirty canvas nevertheless.... and I called He came and Abided with me... leading me on the path of Righteousness.. and along the way I see others stumbling around in the darkness.. knowing something is their but not yet believing and give them a witness of the Light that will lead them if they believe like it did me.... so as you are merrily rowing your boat toward the danger ahead I will call out and then if you continue on route.. bid you love that I was given within toward you and all who share not the beliefs I have.
 
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justoneman said:
... the Church made God's approval something that could never be met. That is why Jesus ...
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The law was given to show God's standard of absolute righteousness, that we may be convicted of our true state of guilt before Him, through the working of the Holy Spirit of God in our life within our own spirit, and see our need of the gospel, which is the good news of the cross upon which Jesus gave His perfect life, and shed His righteous blood on our behalf, due to His great and everlasting love for us, that we may be reconciled to God through faith in His Son, and have a life more abundant, passing from death into life ever after. He paid the price for sin, which is death.
 
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The church did not concoct that scenario; God spent hundreds and hundreds of years setting the stage for the coming of Jesus Christ, Who fulfilled hundreds of prophesies concerning His incarnation. The chances of one person fulfilling even eight of those prophesies is one in ten to the seventeenth power. Some say it is one in ten to the twenty eighth power... one in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Fulfilling forty eight of them would be odds of one in ten to the one hundred and fifty seventh power. Jesus Christ fulfilled hundreds of prophesies concerning Himself. Would you like a list of them?
 
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justoneman said:
I don't mean to offend; the same to you. But for me, peace and love are inner states of being that can only be generated by ourselves, within ourselves, along with where everything else is being generated (within). Why else do you think Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within? I read some of these Christians, or I might say Jesusicians with how the authorities have contorted everything upon its own head, people seem more like they are suffering not meeting the "expectations" of their creator because the Church made God's approval something that could never be met. That is why Jesus sits upon a pedestal so high as to be God in the flesh; it beckons people to lower themselves to such suffering for not having "served" etc. This is just a sick mind; dogma by design.

Row row row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily merrily merrily merrily
Life

Is But

...a dream.

Goodnight, and good fortune.
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We're preparing for a hurricane that will probably hit Florida. We may be in need of that row boat. There will not be any going gently down the stream however, more like thrashing about in the Gulf of Mexico. This does seem like a dream albeit a bad one. Yes, good fortune would be most welcome. :)
 
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Now that Jesus Christ has fulfilled the requirements of the law and shed His righteous blood on our behalf, there remains only one unforgivable sin, and that is to deny the work of the Holy Spirit of God. Those who deny Who God is as sovereign of the universe, creator of all and giver of life, shall pass into the second death, which is final and everlasting, following the resurrection and judgment of all, for they are without excuse.
 
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