Saved from sin while still committing sin??
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Now wait a infinite! Who is calling the kettle black?
We are not the judge of others, that is the job of our Lord. Almost every emotionally ill person is ill because of someone judging instead of loving, accepting and encouraging.
But we are to repent of the sin we ask forgiveness for.
The alcoholic does what Christ asks us for but in regard to alcohol. We are to give over ourselves to Christ for guidance and give Him the power in our lives. The alcoholic cannot say he will accept guidance except for drinking alcohol. The sinner cannot say I'll give up all you ask of me except the sin you confessed.
We are not the judge of others, that is the job of our Lord. Almost every emotionally ill person is ill because of someone judging instead of loving, accepting and encouraging.
But we are to repent of the sin we ask forgiveness for.
The alcoholic does what Christ asks us for but in regard to alcohol. We are to give over ourselves to Christ for guidance and give Him the power in our lives. The alcoholic cannot say he will accept guidance except for drinking alcohol. The sinner cannot say I'll give up all you ask of me except the sin you confessed.
If a person willfully sins just to give Jesus more sin to pay for; there is certainly something wrong with his walk with the Lord.
If a person is struggling with a recurrent sin and keeps stumblimg into it, your scenario would not be hypocritical at all.
it depends on the sinner's real attitude toward sin.
If a person is struggling with a recurrent sin and keeps stumblimg into it, your scenario would not be hypocritical at all.
it depends on the sinner's real attitude toward sin.
Hebrews 10:26-31
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”[e]says the Lord.[f] And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”[g] 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”[e]says the Lord.[f] And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”[g] 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
I'm not sure someone would say it feels good to sin.. because that would mean they were unrepentant.... and so in unbelief.
I don't think they will be entering in to the Kingdom of GOD with that attitude... if we believe the Word of GOD that is.
Maybe you have experienced someone behaving in this manner?
For some people, Hebrews 6 and 10 are severe stumbling blocks that keeps them from receiving the the Blessed Grace of God through Jesus.
NOTHING wrong with those verses of course, but some are fixated on them. At one time I also had an unhealthy fixation with them, spurred on by the enemy's whispers. I pray they will be set free from the inevitable condemnation or worse, this sinless perfection doctrine, that holds them captive.
NOTHING wrong with those verses of course, but some are fixated on them. At one time I also had an unhealthy fixation with them, spurred on by the enemy's whispers. I pray they will be set free from the inevitable condemnation or worse, this sinless perfection doctrine, that holds them captive.
Why this unhealthy fixation on sin and sinning? There was a thread created on righteousness, and that it where you should focus. And even if there are hypocrites out there, Christ told you to focus on your own deficiencies.
We are also admonished by Paul to keep our focus on the following (Philippians 4:8):
Finally, brethren,
1) whatsoever things are true,
2) whatsoever things are honest,
3) whatsoever things are just,
4) whatsoever things are pure,
5) whatsoever things are lovely,
6) whatsoever things are of good report;
7) if there be any virtue, and
8) if there be any praise,
think on these things.
We are also admonished by Paul to keep our focus on the following (Philippians 4:8):
Finally, brethren,
1) whatsoever things are true,
2) whatsoever things are honest,
3) whatsoever things are just,
4) whatsoever things are pure,
5) whatsoever things are lovely,
6) whatsoever things are of good report;
7) if there be any virtue, and
8) if there be any praise,
think on these things.
Absolutely fair question.
So we have some who see these verses, and understand rightly I believe, that to try and split hairs between "willing" sin, and garden variety sin is foolish. They solve the problem by simply saying they don't sin anymore. That's your sinless perfection heresy.
Then there are those who RIGHTLY understand that they indeed still DO sin, but they try and use the small print escape clause that their sin isn't really "willing sin". I believe this type of thinking displays a lack of understanding regarding God's Law and His perfect Standard.
It is dangerous because it can give the enemy a foothold when the Truth finally hits home, that ALL sin is willing. At that point the enemy will attck with condemnation and guilt on the person.
I'm working so I'll finish when I can.
So we have some who see these verses, and understand rightly I believe, that to try and split hairs between "willing" sin, and garden variety sin is foolish. They solve the problem by simply saying they don't sin anymore. That's your sinless perfection heresy.
Then there are those who RIGHTLY understand that they indeed still DO sin, but they try and use the small print escape clause that their sin isn't really "willing sin". I believe this type of thinking displays a lack of understanding regarding God's Law and His perfect Standard.
It is dangerous because it can give the enemy a foothold when the Truth finally hits home, that ALL sin is willing. At that point the enemy will attck with condemnation and guilt on the person.
I'm working so I'll finish when I can.
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Adam Clarke's commentary makes a lot of sense in regards to the letter to the Hebrews:
Verse 26
For if we sin wilfully - If we deliberately, for fear of persecution or from any other motive, renounce the profession of the Gospel and the Author of that Gospel, after having received the knowledge of the truth so as to be convinced that Jesus is the promised Messiah, and that he had sprinkled our hearts from an evil conscience; for such there remaineth no sacrifice for sins; for as the Jewish sacrifices are abolished, as appears by the declaration of God himself in the fortieth Psalm, and Jesus being now the only sacrifice which God will accept, those who reject him have none other; therefore their case must be utterly without remedy.
This is the meaning of the apostle, and the case is that of a deliberate apostate - one who has utterly rejected Jesus Christ and his atonement, and renounced the whole Gospel system. It has nothing to do with backsliders in our common use of that term.
A man may be overtaken in a fault, or he may deliberately go into sin, and yet neither renounce the Gospel, nor deny the Lord that bought him. His case is dreary and dangerous, but it is not hopeless; no case is hopeless but that of the deliberate apostate, who rejects the whole Gospel system, after having been saved by grace, or convinced of the truth of the Gospel.
To him there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin; for there was but the One, Jesus, and this he has utterly rejected.
Verse 26
For if we sin wilfully - If we deliberately, for fear of persecution or from any other motive, renounce the profession of the Gospel and the Author of that Gospel, after having received the knowledge of the truth so as to be convinced that Jesus is the promised Messiah, and that he had sprinkled our hearts from an evil conscience; for such there remaineth no sacrifice for sins; for as the Jewish sacrifices are abolished, as appears by the declaration of God himself in the fortieth Psalm, and Jesus being now the only sacrifice which God will accept, those who reject him have none other; therefore their case must be utterly without remedy.
This is the meaning of the apostle, and the case is that of a deliberate apostate - one who has utterly rejected Jesus Christ and his atonement, and renounced the whole Gospel system. It has nothing to do with backsliders in our common use of that term.
A man may be overtaken in a fault, or he may deliberately go into sin, and yet neither renounce the Gospel, nor deny the Lord that bought him. His case is dreary and dangerous, but it is not hopeless; no case is hopeless but that of the deliberate apostate, who rejects the whole Gospel system, after having been saved by grace, or convinced of the truth of the Gospel.
To him there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin; for there was but the One, Jesus, and this he has utterly rejected.