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Here are some additional comments on 6 of the NT passages in the OP …

“If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter
into life maimed rather than having two hands and go to hell” (Mark 9:43)
Does Jesus go overboard in trying to express the incredible seriousness of sin?

“You will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures
to the end (until his death) will be saved (eternally).” (Matthew 10:22)
There are about 15 NT verses which teach this spiritual Truth above.
And, enduring in the faith until death includes …
• Not falling away during the times of severe persecution of Christians
• Not submitting to the incredible pressure of taking the dreaded mark of the beast
Both of these severe TESTS will be coming upon professing Christians soon!
Re: taking the mark, be sure you read the eternal consequences in Rev.13-14.

“Then when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin;
and sin, when it is full grown, brings forth (eternal) death.
Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.” (James 1:15-16)
Sin brings forth eternal death upon believers also, unless it is repented of!
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
Repentance includes all of the following: the sorrow over committing the sin,
the confessing it to God, the asking forgiveness for it, the stopping of doing it.

“In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God” (1 John 3:10)
“He who practices righteousness is righteous” (1 John 3:7)
Many believers have been deceived by the gospel of hyper-grace, the “Me gospel”.
They have been deceived into believing that they have been made
FOREVER righteous because of what Jesus did for them on the Cross.
They have NOT been made FOREVER anything by God’s free gift of grace.
They have NOT been made FOREVER justified, righteous, sanctified, saved, etc.
NO GUARANTEES is what the NT teaches! … because …
We see that all of God’s blessings are CONDITIONAL – all throughout the whole Bible!
Warning: gifts can be taken back, seals can be broken, etc.
Because believers are required to do their part in their salvation.
They are required to co-operate with the precious Holy Spirit.
And the opposite of this is the most-deadly practicing of habitual (unrepentant) sin!

“And do NOT present your member as instruments of unrighteousness to sin,
but present yourselves to God … as instruments of righteousness to God.
… Do you not know that … you are that one’s slaves whom you obey,
whether (slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, OR
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness? … so now
present your bodies as slaves of righteousness for holiness.
… For the end of those things (past sins) is (eternal) death.
... For the wages of sin is (eternal) death,
but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 6:13—23)
Paul is writing to born-again believers in Rome (who are strangers to him).
He warns them: sinning, being slaves of sin, being unrighteous – leads to eternal death!
Attention: believers just do NOT understand Paul’s method of writing to the churches.
It is all about being tactful, so he will be welcome to visit them (and teach them more).
Paul mixes his warnings in amongst his MANY edifications, exhortations, blessings, etc.
And he leaves it up to the precious Holy Spirit to reveal the deep meaning of Scripture.
Warning: deceived believers are mistakenly taught to focus on the last line above,
and they just do not realize that all of God’s blessings are CONDITIONAL,
which is seen all throughout the whole entire Bible!

Believers are taught that passages such as the Romans 6 simply do NOT apply to them!
The churches do NOT want to get the troops upset …
because the troops come trooping in every Sunday with their tithes!
To be fair, some church leadership are not this way … they have just been
deceived by the greatest lair and deceiver in history, whose name is Satan!
 

OneFaith

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My church teaches the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help them God. We do not shy away from sensitive topics, or preach only on only what is comfortable to hear. My church walks the walk and talks the talk. My minister told me he will preach against homosexuality, and if he's persecuted with jail or death for it, he will not flinch. Me too!!!
 
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MrChris

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My church teaches the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help them God. We do not shy away from sensitive topics, or preach only on only what is comfortable to hear. My church walks the walk and talks the talk. My minister told me he will preach against homosexuality, and if he's persecuted with jail or death for it, he will not flinch. Me too!!!
Thing's better left unsaid.
 

Yonah

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The Father knows how to send a wake-up call just look around and discern the times....
And those who have ears to hear will surely hear... , and eyes to see will surely see...
The time is coming when many now deceived by the teaching of man will begin to study for themselves and question many things they took for granted were actually in the bible, Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
There is a way, we all know the way, its just walking it that's the hard part, pray for truth to be revealed and be willing to put to the test everything you think you know about truth, His truth, if what you now hold as truth remains then it is, if not we don't want it anyway.
 

wattie

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Context!

Distinguish which verses are about eternal life. . Receiving it..

Others are about having blessings taken away and being disciplined.

Don't mix discipline with removal of eternal life

Eternal life is given.. not earned

A life committed to Jesus tho. . That is dependent on our reliance on Jesus
 

Cordenify

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Church follow up is good in bible believing churches not doctrinal churches where the gospel is half truth or mixed with culture and tradition. Galatians6:1-18
 
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A life committed to Jesus tho. . That is dependent on our reliance on Jesus
Yes, we need to rely on Jesus for many things.
But, does Jesus make you obey His commandments?
Does He make you co-operate with the Holy Spirit?
What is our free will for?