Revelation 12 Sign: September 23,2017

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watcher2013

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if you search the above,there are tons of videos showing that the alignment of the stars in september 23 is the sign of Rev. 12.

Jesus did said to watch the signs, I would like to know your opinion?
 
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NOTHING will happen. nothing ever does. it will pass and our hope will be broken once again.
 
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Get ready to be raked over the coals or flat ignored with this post.....most do not buy it and the one's who do are ridiculed, mocked and made fun of........just saying this is par for the course......even though the 1st thing on the list concerning the sun, moon and stars is-------->For signs......!
 

Blain

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I do indeed think this sign is vital to pay attention to, out of all the signs I have heard of and seen never once have I seen scripture actually come to life in the heavens, however something to remember is that it is a sign meaning it is to point to warn or to direct to something so for anyone thinking the rapture is going to happen or that the tribulation will begin think again.
 

watcher2013

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I do indeed think this sign is vital to pay attention to, out of all the signs I have heard of and seen never once have I seen scripture actually come to life in the heavens, however something to remember is that it is a sign meaning it is to point to warn or to direct to something so for anyone thinking the rapture is going to happen or that the tribulation will begin think again.
exactly, some say that the woman is Israel (no question about it) but why the moon is under her feet and why she was. clothed with sun. i do think that this sign is showing its position literally in heaven.
 
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NOTHING will happen as usual..........
 

loveme1

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Just over 8 days until the date be upon us...

It falls on a Sabbath day..

Is this the sign of incarnation by the dark forces of the supposed king David descendant (flesh) they await?


There is something else tied to this..

Time will tell....
 
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I would suggest that gazing at the stars is not a source of Christian faith..

Christ said its an evil generation, the generation of natural man who does walk by sight requiring a sign before they will believe as those that do seek after signs. And the last sign as a wonder (a faith principle) has been given and fulfilled the sign of Noah. He will come as a thief in the night.
 
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if you search the above,there are tons of videos showing that the alignment of the stars in september 23 is the sign of Rev. 12.

Jesus did said to watch the signs, I would like to know your opinion?
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

This has nothing to do with the the actual sun,moon,and stars,but is the nation of Israel,and the 12 tribes of Israel.

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The woman was with child,and pained to be delivered.

Which it is obvious that it has nothing to do with the ordinances of heaven,for how could they give birth.

But it is the nation of Israel,which the child Christ Jesus came through the nation of Israel.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

The woman brought forth a man child,and how can the ordinances of heaven bring forth a human,who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron,who is Jesus Christ.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel is protected from physical attack for three and one half years,and this refers to the future.

Israel will be turned to the truth when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles.

The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel,and the Jews,and the Gentiles,will be separated.

The Gentile nations will come together,and say,Peace and safety,and will try to establish peace on earth.

For three and one half years the world will operate by the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters that occur on earth as warnings to the world to repent,and turn to God,but after the 6th trumpet which is a terrible war where one third of the population of the world dies,God said the world will not repent of their wicked ways,and turn to Him,but they keep trying to solve their problems by their own methods,so God gives the world the man of sin to rule over them.

The ten horns failed at providing peace,so they hand their power over to the man of sin,and he gets control of the world.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

God gives the world the man of sin to rule over them,and war breaks out in heaven,and the devils are cast to earth,and Satan appears as the beast,and deceives all people who do not love God.

Babylon represents human religion,and the kingdom of man,and in Daniel chapter 7 when physical Babylon fell she will never have physical dominion again,but her life is prolonged for a time and a season,which means her ways are still on earth.

So this is Babylon in spirit,for the beast kingdom represents human religion,and the kingdom of man.

Babylon is responsible for all that was slain upon earth,so it could not refer to physical Babylon,but Babylon in spirit,and a person either belongs to the kingdom of God,or Babylon,the kingdom of man.

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Israel is protected from physical attack for another three and one half years.

Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Israel is protected from physical attack for the 7 years period,and the beast and the world persecute all people who opposed their kingdom,and hold the testimony of Jesus.

There will not be any signs of the stars in heaven concerning Revelation 12 because it speaks of Israel,which is still in the future,for the 7 years period has not begun yet.
 

Chris1975

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Its happening. 5 wise vs 5 foolish virgins.

Now God does the first sifting.

May He judge those who serve Him in Spirit and Truth and those who serve with their lips but whose hearts are far from Him.
 

MarcR

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For you skeptics:

If you read Hos Chapter 2, Zech chapters 12-14, and Mat 24 carefully it will sound very much like current events.

but most of you skeptics won't even give the idea a fair hearing.
 

iamsoandso

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Wait,,, back in y2k several of our members went into underground shelters and sealed themselves off. Just a thought did anyone go to their shelter in 2001 and beat on the door and tell them it was a dud or are they still there?...
 

Mem

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For you skeptics:

If you read Hos Chapter 2, Zech chapters 12-14, and Mat 24 carefully it will sound very much like current events.

but most of you skeptics won't even give the idea a fair hearing.
No one can say it will happen this day or that, but neither can anyone really say that it won't happen either, considering that WILL happen one day, as promised.

The odds that any one of us get one day in however many thousands right are slim, however, but they can be narrowed down by these scriptural c(l)ues, or so I would think.

Especially considering the recent roaring of the sea and surging of the waves, Luke 21:25-28 provides another hint to the day, or at least the season...

There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves.

Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
 

loveme1

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I have seen many believe the Rapture takes place this day.. I don't think it does but hope those waiting to be Raptured continue to believe even if they face trouble..

The day is marking something my friends yet I will not state openly my belief, unless one comes with a question because most are not ready to receive.
 
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Locutus

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When the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars Then peace will guide the planets. And love will steer the stars. This is the dawning of the.............






 
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...Age of Aquarius!
 

valiant

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if you search the above,there are tons of videos showing that the alignment of the stars in september 23 is the sign of Rev. 12.

Jesus did said to watch the signs, I would like to know your opinion?
and there are even greater tons that say its not.
 

watcher2013

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Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

This has nothing to do with the the actual sun,moon,and stars,but is the nation of Israel,and the 12 tribes of Israel.

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The woman was with child,and pained to be delivered.

Which it is obvious that it has nothing to do with the ordinances of heaven,for how could they give birth.

But it is the nation of Israel,which the child Christ Jesus came through the nation of Israel.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

The woman brought forth a man child,and how can the ordinances of heaven bring forth a human,who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron,who is Jesus Christ.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Israel is protected from physical attack for three and one half years,and this refers to the future.

Israel will be turned to the truth when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles.

The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel,and the Jews,and the Gentiles,will be separated.

The Gentile nations will come together,and say,Peace and safety,and will try to establish peace on earth.

For three and one half years the world will operate by the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

The 6 trumpets are 6 disasters that occur on earth as warnings to the world to repent,and turn to God,but after the 6th trumpet which is a terrible war where one third of the population of the world dies,God said the world will not repent of their wicked ways,and turn to Him,but they keep trying to solve their problems by their own methods,so God gives the world the man of sin to rule over them.

The ten horns failed at providing peace,so they hand their power over to the man of sin,and he gets control ofy the world.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

God gives the world the man of sin to rule over them,and war breaks out in heaven,and the devils are cast to earth,and Satan appears as the beast,and deceives all people who do not love God.

Babylon represents human religion,and the kingdom of man,and in Daniel chapter 7 when physical Babylon fell she will never have physical dominion again,but her life is prolonged for a time and a season,which means her ways are still on earth.

So this is Babylon in spirit,for the beast kingdom represents human religion,and the kingdom of man.

Babylon is responsible for all that was slain upon earth,so it could not refer to physical Babylon,but Babylon in spirit,and a person either belongs to the kingdom of God,or Babylon,the kingdom of man.

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Israel is protected from physical attack for another three and one half years.

Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Israel is protected from physical attack for the 7 years period,and the beast and the world persecute all people who opposed their kingdom,and hold the testimony of Jesus.

There will not be any signs of the stars in heaven concerning Revelation 12 because it speaks of Israel,which is still in the future,for the 7 years period has not begun yet.
remember the three kings who followed the star...how could the star show the location of the new born king and yet it did.

john specifically said great wonders/sign in heaven....
and why would john describe that the moon was under her feet....unless it was shown to him that way.
 

watcher2013

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I have seen many believe the Rapture takes place this day.. I don't think it does but hope those waiting to be Raptured continue to believe even if they face trouble..

The day is marking something my friends yet I will not state openly my belief, unless one comes with a question because most are not ready to receive.
actually it destroys the 1st assumption of pre tribbers the rapture of rev 4.
now those pre tribbers are shifting to the man child who was caught up...and argued that jesus wad not caught up but ascend.

pre tribbers will do anything to match their belief.