It might surprise some people.
That when Scripture says "confess your sins one to another" in James 5:16.
The word there for "confess" is exomoloegeo.
And the Scripture that is being quoted 1 John 1:8-9 for "confess" is homologeo.
Why does this matter? Because if you look up "homologeo" (3670 in Strong's Concordance) in Scripture you'll notice it's mainly talking about unsaved people who need to "confess" God as their Savior.
This is the most likely translation because we run into this little humdinger here: "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves".
So you're saying 1 John 1:9 is written for the lost, correct? If so, you're taking it out of context. Simply because the same term is used elsewhere and allegedly refers to the lost (you've provided no substantiation) does not necessitate that it must be to the lost here. In other words context rules, not word definitions forced into it to change context.
Now most people bury their head in the sand on this passage and say something like well it means Christians don't "practice" sin. But, of course anyone with eyeballs can see that's not at all what John is saying.
Now you're into another subject altogether. This subject is however dealt with by John, the practice of sin. I wouldn't say those who see this are burying their heads in the sand. That's kind of a derogatory thing to say, by the way.
Here's what I believe fits the context properly: If you say you don't have sin, thus you don't need Jesus, you're deceived. BUT if you confess Him as Lord, He will forgive you for your sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Now let's check with the Bible on this.
You're making a determination prior to going to the Bible bro thus your mistakes. The text actually doesn't say what you're saying. It doesn't say if we confess Him as Lord either. You are taking the verse out of context and making the text say things it doesn't even say at all. It says if we say we are without sin, the truth is not in us &c. If the person has the grace of God operative in them in salvation, "being saved" they will know their own sinfulness and wretchedness. No true convert can be without this, for we all sin.
First off: If its teaching that every time we sin we need to be purged of our unrighteousness, we run into a lot of issues. One of them being our righteousness is no found in ourselves and not Christ. That's a big problem.
Actually it isn't a big problem and doing this has not a thing to do with being righteous in ourselves. How you are arriving at such a conclusion is beyond me. It appears you've taken the hyper grace baton from someone and are running with it.
When a person confesses their sin, and are cleansed from that unrighteousness, it does not make the person self-righteous. The text is actually teaching what you disagree with, that is that we should confess our sins, and in doing this we will be cleansed from that unrighteousness. It isn't a big problem, it's a big blessing.
This we should confess our sins, our conscience should be so in tune with God that we confess each sin to Him in walking with Him. I've done this, others have, it is part of fellowship with God.
Second: Scripture teaches us that Christ became sin so that WE can become the righteousness of God. If Christ became sin so that we could be righteous. Why would we still have sin after Christ?
This doesn't mean we can't still sin, we know Christians can sin because Paul told us it was stupid to sin. We are dead to it so why would we live in it?
However do John and Paul disagree? No. John is explaining the need for Christ. That's why it's in Chapter 1 of his letter. And Paul is explaining what happens after we have Christ.
Well, you're all over the place above with random thoughts. It still appears you are saying John 1:8-10 is for the lost, thus in the beginning of his epistle. If so, that is incorrect.
Does this mean that I don't think we should confess our sins? Eh, I ask forgiveness when I feel the Lord pressing on something specifically. But if we take this Scripture to mean we have to confess every sin or we are unrighteous we have bigger theological issues. And I'm pretty sure no one confesses every sin.
Sorry bro, but your attitude toward your own sin seems flippant. Then you get cynical about others. I'm pretty sure that believers confess their sins, and in doing that, as the text says, are
cleansed from all unrighteousness. The cleansing comes from God, not our perfection in recalling each and every sin committed. Obeying this text doesn't mean the person feels they are being disrobed from the righteousness of Christ and gaining their own righteousness. I've not met anyone who believed this or saw this is how others take the passage.
And here's why I am confident of that. Because Scripture teaches anything not done in faith is sin.
Completely different issue here.
And if you take this Scripture to mean you're unrighteous if you're not confessing all of your sins, well you're not in faith, and that's a sin. So that's a catch-22.
The Scripture is clear, we sin, we confess, He cleanses us from that unrighteousness. That you say the person isn't in faith is a misnomer. Faith isn't blind faith, and confessing of sin and being cleansed, and knowing that because of that sin we committed unrighteousness doesn't put the person in a catch 22. In addition, you're taking "unrighteous" here way too far, it isn't that the person no longer sees themselves as not clothed in His righteousness from salvation. That is one of your biggest errors here.
Be free in Christ, stay in relationship, and don't try to add self-righteousness to your relationship with God. If you feel Him pressing on something you did and He is telling you to repent (think differently) then go for it! But follow the Spirit of God not religious traditions.C.
Funny you say "stay in relationship" when the text is about keeping fellowship with God and walking in His light &c.
No one is adding self-righteousness to themselves via the text at hand. You're assuming way too much and are misunderstanding the text.
Anyhow...
