The Appointed Times of Leviticus 23; and Why I Observe Them

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MarcR

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Perhaps I should start with the Sabbath because it is the first mentioned; but I will save it for last.


Lev 23:5
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover.
KJV
On Passover I remember the Lord's suffering and death on my behalf.


Lev 23:6-8
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
KJV

On Abib 15 I remember the time Jesus spent in the tomb. He died that I might have life.


Lev 23:10-11
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
KJV
On the Sunday following Passover (Firstfruits) I celebrate Resurrection Sunday Jesus Lives.


Lev 23:15-16
15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.
KJV

On the second Sunday of Sivan I celebrate Shavout (Feast of Weeks) Pentecost The indwelling Holy Spirit and the birth of the Church.

Lev 23:24-26
24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
25 Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
26 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
KJV

On the First day of Ethanim I celebrate the promise of the Rapture when the Church will be taken to be with the Lord. I don't necessarily believe it will happen on that date.


Lev 23:27-32
27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
28 And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the Lord your God.
29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
30 And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
31 Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
KJV

On the 10th day of Ethanim I observe Yom Kippur the Day of Atonement. I try to remember that every Sin I commit in my daily life, the Lord had to suffer for. I also remember that I don't want to add to His pain. I do not keep a complete fast because I am diabetic.

Lev 23:34-36
34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the Lord.
35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
KJV

On the 15th of Ethanim I celebrate the Lord's birth and the promise of His return to reign over this world.

I use the pre-exilic names of the months because the post exilic names name Babylonian idols.

I call the first day of Ethanim 'Yom Teruah' Day of Trumpets rather than Rosh Ha Shanah because God named Abib the First month.

I observe the seventh day Sabbath to remember the rest we have in Jesus frees us from trying to please God in our own efforts.

I church with fellow believers on Sunday following the example of the early Church.
 

Nehemiah6

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I observe the seventh day Sabbath to remember the rest we have in Jesus frees us from trying to please God in our own efforts. I church with fellow believers on Sunday following the example of the early Church.
Marc,

In the context of this thread, the fundamental question which Christians must ask is "Do the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit approve or disapprove of divisions within the Body of Christ?" And I believe the answer is obvious (Eph 4:3-6).

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Whether we wish to acknowledge it or not Messianic Judaism or Messianic Christianity has brought division into the Body of Christ, which essentially violates the Law of Love. Messianic Judaism began around the 1970's, but before that Hebrew Christians were simply Christians of Jewish extraction. But they did not revert back to Moses. Why?

The issue of the application of the Law of Moses came up early in the Christian churches, and was settled in Acts 15 under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were only FOUR laws which applied to Gentiles, and since the NT clearly teaches no distinctions between Jews and Gentiles within the churches, that would also apply to Jews. Those four laws were as follows:

For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That [1] ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and [2] from blood, and [3] from things strangled, and [4] from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. (Acts 15:28,29). You will note that sabbath observance is excluded since the Lord's Day was to be the "Christian Sabbath".

Today we have Messsianic Jews seeking to revert to the feasts, festivals, and holy days from the Old Covenant, when Christian churches generally do not observe them. Furthermore, the Sabbatarians have developed a "holier-than-thou" attitude by promoting sabbath-keeping contrary to the NT, which clearly says that meats, drinks, holy days, new moons, and sabbath days are merely "shadows" (Col 2:16,17).

So first of all the instructions in Acts 15 are being disregarded. But more importantly, and grievously to the Holy Spirit, bringing these observances into churches is a sure way to divide the Body of Christ. And that is exactly what has happened. Since Christ's Law of Love supersedes all the ceremonial observances of Moses, it should be clear that by reviving Moses Christians violate the Law of Christ.
 
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Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times. The sun knows its going down."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]appointed times is word #H4150 - Original Word: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]מוֹעֵד[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: moed, Phonetic Spelling: (mo-ade'), Short Definition: meeting, Word Origin from yaad, Definition - appointed time, place, or meeting[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 74:4, “Your adversaries have roared In the midst of Your appointments; They have set up their own signs as signs.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Thessalonians 5:1, "But concerning the times and the seasons, brothers, you have no need that I should write to you."[/FONT]
 

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There are prophetic inferences to be drawn for the appointed times. They all point to Jesus. The spring feasts have been fulfilled. The fulfillment of the fall feasts we await with anticipation.
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Fulfilled already

To be fulfilled in the future

1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice (Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The Holy Spirit of YHWH coming into our lives stronger than ever as we have a perfect High Priest who sits in that position forever

4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever
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Perhaps I should start with the Sabbath because it is the first mentioned; but I will save it for last. [...]

Lev 23:10-11
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
KJV
On the Sunday following Passover (Firstfruits) I celebrate Resurrection Sunday Jesus Lives.
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Just curious how you do this one. I'm kind of stuck thinking I've got no sheaves, harvest is throughout the warm months for my tiny little garden, and I don't work anymore, so really can't hold up what I do now. (Unless I hold up clean plates, clean clothes, and... umm no idea how to hold up clean walls and floors.)

And, even if I did hold up the first chamomile flowers, blackberries, scallions, herbs, and tomatoes when they're ready to harvest, then what? I'm thinking my church wouldn't really need the small amounts I'd give. (First harvest isn't even enough for a cup of chamomile tea or a blackberry dessert. We tend to eat the 1-3 blackberries, and I dry the flowers until there is enough to make tea. lol) Burning in the city is illegal, and I don't know if blackberries or tomatoes burn anyway, unless I left them too long in the oven.

So, I'm not mocking you, and I've got nothing against what you're saying, I'm genuinely curious how that part of Leviticus works to a modern day American. How do you do this part?
 

MarcR

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Just curious how you do this one. I'm kind of stuck thinking I've got no sheaves, harvest is throughout the warm months for my tiny little garden, and I don't work anymore, so really can't hold up what I do now. (Unless I hold up clean plates, clean clothes, and... umm no idea how to hold up clean walls and floors.)

And, even if I did hold up the first chamomile flowers, blackberries, scallions, herbs, and tomatoes when they're ready to harvest, then what? I'm thinking my church wouldn't really need the small amounts I'd give. (First harvest isn't even enough for a cup of chamomile tea or a blackberry dessert. We tend to eat the 1-3 blackberries, and I dry the flowers until there is enough to make tea. lol) Burning in the city is illegal, and I don't know if blackberries or tomatoes burn anyway, unless I left them too long in the oven.

So, I'm not mocking you, and I've got nothing against what you're saying, I'm genuinely curious how that part of Leviticus works to a modern day American. How do you do this part?
My observance of Firstfruits has absolutely NOTHING to do with the barley harvest.

I celebrate the Lord's resurrection and the promise of Eternal life.

I call it Resurrection Sunday, not Easter (Œester) 'Goddess of the East' No rabbits no eggs, no nude public orgies!
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming,”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 1:4, "Because He chose us with Him before the foundation of the world, that we were to be holy and without blame before Him in love;"[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 1:15, "He is the image of the invisible Father, the firstborn of all creation."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 1:18, "For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 12:39-41, “...no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Men of Ninewĕh shall stand up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Yonah, and look, a greater than Yonah is here.”[/FONT]
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Hizikyah

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Psalm 81:1-3, “Shout for joy to Yah our strength; Raise a shout to the Strength of Ya‛aqoḇ. Lift up a song and beat the tambourine, The pleasant lyre and with the harp. Blow a trumpet in the New moon, in the covering for the day of our festival.”

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Therefore cleanse out the old leaven, so that you are a new lump, as you are unleavened. For also Messiah our Passover was offered for us. So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."
 

MarcR

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Marc,

In the context of this thread, the fundamental question which Christians must ask is "Do the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit approve or disapprove of divisions within the Body of Christ?" And I believe the answer is obvious (Eph 4:3-6).

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Whether we wish to acknowledge it or not Messianic Judaism or Messianic Christianity has brought division into the Body of Christ, which essentially violates the Law of Love. Messianic Judaism began around the 1970's, but before that Hebrew Christians were simply Christians of Jewish extraction. But they did not revert back to Moses. Why?

The issue of the application of the Law of Moses came up early in the Christian churches, and was settled in Acts 15 under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were only FOUR laws which applied to Gentiles, and since the NT clearly teaches no distinctions between Jews and Gentiles within the churches, that would also apply to Jews. Those four laws were as follows:

For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That [1] ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and [2] from blood, and [3] from things strangled, and [4] from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. (Acts 15:28,29). You will note that sabbath observance is excluded since the Lord's Day was to be the "Christian Sabbath".

Today we have Messsianic Jews seeking to revert to the feasts, festivals, and holy days from the Old Covenant, when Christian churches generally do not observe them. Furthermore, the Sabbatarians have developed a "holier-than-thou" attitude by promoting sabbath-keeping contrary to the NT, which clearly says that meats, drinks, holy days, new moons, and sabbath days are merely "shadows" (Col 2:16,17).

So first of all the instructions in Acts 15 are being disregarded. But more importantly, and grievously to the Holy Spirit, bringing these observances into churches is a sure way to divide the Body of Christ. And that is exactly what has happened. Since Christ's Law of Love supersedes all the ceremonial observances of Moses, it should be clear that by reviving Moses Christians violate the Law of Christ.
I have never suggested imposing them on Churches. I am explaining why I observe them and what they mean to me as a believer, not under Law.

As it happens, the church I attend is associated with IN Faith (Formerly the American Sunday School Union) It is one of the oldest church conferences in the United States. 8 signers of the Declaration of independence were on its board of directors. We are not a 'Messianic' congregation. We do, as a church, observe most of the appointed times because they are so meaningful in our walk with the Lord. This has happened without any urging from me. Our pastor, on his own deemed it appropriate.
 

shrume

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Fulfilled already

To be fulfilled in the future

1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice (Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The Holy Spirit of YHWH coming into our lives stronger than ever as we have a perfect High Priest who sits in that position forever

4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever
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Pentecost has also been fulfilled.

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Sorry... I see you included it as the Feast of Weeks.

You combined Passover and Firstfruits, which threw me. Why did you combine them?
 
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but im not a jew i dont evne know how to keep these feasts bwahahaa......... some of them need animal sacrifices too u see no? so yes........ no no........ u cant keep them fully u see.
its all or nothing who is right? fastest of the westside.
 

MarcR

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but im not a jew i dont evne know how to keep these feasts bwahahaa......... some of them need animal sacrifices too u see no? so yes........ no no........ u cant keep them fully u see.
its all or nothing who is right? fastest of the westside.
Under the Law keeping them was required and animal sacrifice was needed.

Under grace they are voluntary and animal sacrifice would deny the sufficiency of what Jesus did for us.

I don't say that anyone else must or even should keep them. I'm explaining why they are still meaningful to me as a believer under grace.
 
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Under the Law keeping them was required and animal sacrifice was needed.

Under grace they are voluntary and animal sacrifice would deny the sufficiency of what Jesus did for us.

I don't say that anyone else must or even should keep them. I'm explaining why they are still meaningful to me as a believer under grace.
hi Marc. thanks. i agree with u.
 

Nehemiah6

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I don't say that anyone else must or even should keep them. I'm explaining why they are still meaningful to me as a believer under grace.
Fair enough, except under grace all Mosaic ceremonial observances have been set aside. That is clear from the book of Hebrews.

Without the temple and the Levitical priesthood, all the feasts become meaningless. Also you and your congregation are divided from the majority of evangelical Christians. So that still does not address the issue of division in the Body of Christ. Not to say that there is not already division. But this further divides Jews from Gentiles, and that is the real issue.

This was a problem in the apostolic churches, but since then it was not a problem until the Messianics began their movement. They may think they are serving God when in fact they are violating the Law of Love, which includes the unity of the Spirit. Paul indirectly addressed this in 1 Cor 1:10-13:

Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.


Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.


Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

How can we all "speak the same thing" if Mosaic observances are practiced in some churches but not in others?
 
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MarcR

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Fair enough, except under grace all Mosaic ceremonial observances have been set aside. That is clear from the book of Hebrews.

Without the temple and the Levitical priesthood, all the feasts become meaningless. Also you and your congregation are divided from the majority of evangelical Christians. So that still does not address the issue of division in the Body of Christ. Not to say that there is not already division. But this further divides Jews from Gentiles, and that is the real issue.

This was a problem in the apostolic churches, but since then it was not a problem until the Messianics began their movement. They may think they are serving God when in fact they are violating the Law of Love, which includes the unity of the Spirit. Paul indirectly addressed this in 1 Cor 1:10-13:

Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.


Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.


Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

How can we all "speak the same thing" if Mosaic observances are practiced in some churches but not in others?
I don't try to observe them under the Mosaic covenant. I observe them from a NT perspective.

If you read my posts you will see I am as much or more against believers putting themselves under Law as anyone on the forum.

You will not have doctrinal uniformity among the churches until Jesus takes the believers to heaven.
 
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MarcR

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Marc,

In the context of this thread, the fundamental question which Christians must ask is "Do the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit approve or disapprove of divisions within the Body of Christ?" And I believe the answer is obvious (Eph 4:3-6).

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Whether we wish to acknowledge it or not Messianic Judaism or Messianic Christianity has brought division into the Body of Christ, which essentially violates the Law of Love. Messianic Judaism began around the 1970's, but before that Hebrew Christians were simply Christians of Jewish extraction. But they did not revert back to Moses. Why?

The issue of the application of the Law of Moses came up early in the Christian churches, and was settled in Acts 15 under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were only FOUR laws which applied to Gentiles, and since the NT clearly teaches no distinctions between Jews and Gentiles within the churches, that would also apply to Jews. Those four laws were as follows:

For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That [1] ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and [2] from blood, and [3] from things strangled, and [4] from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. (Acts 15:28,29). You will note that sabbath observance is excluded since the Lord's Day was to be the "Christian Sabbath".

Today we have Messsianic Jews seeking to revert to the feasts, festivals, and holy days from the Old Covenant, when Christian churches generally do not observe them. Furthermore, the Sabbatarians have developed a "holier-than-thou" attitude by promoting sabbath-keeping contrary to the NT, which clearly says that meats, drinks, holy days, new moons, and sabbath days are merely "shadows" (Col 2:16,17).

So first of all the instructions in Acts 15 are being disregarded. But more importantly, and grievously to the Holy Spirit, bringing these observances into churches is a sure way to divide the Body of Christ. And that is exactly what has happened. Since Christ's Law of Love supersedes all the ceremonial observances of Moses, it should be clear that by reviving Moses Christians violate the Law of Christ.
I agree completely. My observance of the appointed times has little or no connection with what requirements of the law except with respect to time; and even the times are kept by volition .....NOT under Law

Try to get past your no law sentiments and really read what I am saying.
 

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My observance of Firstfruits has absolutely NOTHING to do with the barley harvest.

I celebrate the Lord's resurrection and the promise of Eternal life.

I call it Resurrection Sunday, not Easter (Œester) 'Goddess of the East' No rabbits no eggs, no nude public orgies!
Why are you celebrating a day AFTER Jesus was resurrected ? There are no biblical instructions for this ...just curious.
 

MarcR

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Why are you celebrating a day AFTER Jesus was resurrected ? There are no biblical instructions for this ...just curious.
As I understand the gospels, I am persuaded that Jesus rose on the first day of the week; which by Jewish reckoning of time begins at sundown Saturday and continues till sundown Sunday.
 

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Under the Law keeping them was required and animal sacrifice was needed.

Under grace they are voluntary and animal sacrifice would deny the sufficiency of what Jesus did for us.

I don't say that anyone else must or even should keep them. I'm explaining why they are still meaningful to me as a believer under grace.
let's follow this out, my aim is to have an edifying discussion.

suppose someone said it was meaningful to them to stone adulterers. would that be ok, too?