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mcubed

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I have been listening to debates by Dr. Michael Brown and James White vrs. others on the subject can you be a Christian and gay. I love debates they teach me both the arguments and how to answer. This is back ground for my question.

If a person has had a sex change and are now saved do they abstain because the man is now a woman or vice versa, if they cannot reverse it, or if now a man goes ahead and marry a woman (or the other way around)? I mean in their mind they were just born the wrong sex….

Just as a side note: this is crazy, in a sad/bad way, that this a valid question for today.
 

mystic7

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I have been listening to debates by Dr. Michael Brown and James White vrs. others on the subject can you be a Christian and gay. I love debates they teach me both the arguments and how to answer. This is back ground for my question.

If a person has had a sex change and are now saved do they abstain because the man is now a woman or vice versa, if they cannot reverse it, or if now a man goes ahead and marry a woman (or the other way around)? I mean in their mind they were just born the wrong sex….

Just as a side note: this is crazy, in a sad/bad way, that this a valid question for today.
This is a interesting topic: My views, A person may "change" but to God's eyes, is the person the same person HE created? If he/she truly was saved, I believe they would return to their original form.
 

mcubed

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This is a interesting topic: My views, A person may "change" but to God's eyes, is the person the same person HE created? If he/she truly was saved, I believe they would return to their original form.
Yes, interesting, almost up there with did Adam and Eve have a belly button? lol...

I am so grateful one person can rightfully divide the Scripture. Additionally should abstain from any from of "love" relationship until they have the money for a sex change reversal.
 

MarcR

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If I understand correctly, sex change operations give the recipient the visual appearance of the other gender but are not functional for procreation. If the sex change is in fact functional then I think that is now that person's gender.
 

Magenta

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Does gender reassignment surgery change a person's sexual orientation?
 

mcubed

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Does gender reassignment surgery change a person's sexual orientation?
It probably depend on the person. Last thing I read on Bruce Jenner, a long time ago (could be wrong now) he still likes women not men. Then how messed up is that... a new question... I am a man, now a woman... I still like women so I "look" like a lesbian even though I am not since I am really a man... .... .... and buy the way I don't have a penis anymore to do "man stuff" ...

What does the Church do? We want them saved... How do we react? What do we say to them?...
 

blue_ladybug

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You CANNOT actually change your gender. All the hormones, surgeries, etc, etc, will NOT make you the opposite sex. If you have a penis, you're a man. If you have boobs and a vagina, you're a woman.. end of story..

On the question of being a gay Christian, that phrase contradicts itself. You CANNOT be a practicing gay (or even an inactive one) AND be a Christian.. You can't honor your Lord by being a Christian while you're being what the Lord hates most: an evil abomination.. JMO
 
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If you have a 'XY' you're a male, no matter how you rearrange the 'furniture'.

If you have a 'XX', you're a female, no matter how you rearrange the 'furniture'.
 

OneFaith

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I have been listening to debates by Dr. Michael Brown and James White vrs. others on the subject can you be a Christian and gay. I love debates they teach me both the arguments and how to answer. This is back ground for my question.

If a person has had a sex change and are now saved do they abstain because the man is now a woman or vice versa, if they cannot reverse it, or if now a man goes ahead and marry a woman (or the other way around)? I mean in their mind they were just born the wrong sex….

Just as a side note: this is crazy, in a sad/bad way, that this a valid question for today.

They have to abstain from sex away- since its most likely they are not married. If they are married to the same sex, they need to divorce immediately. They are not born the wrong sex, it's the evil in their heart that repels against God. We live in a day and age where we can see the xx or xy chromosome.

It is said that different people are tempted by different things- that's not true- we are all tempted by the temptations common to mankind. And most people are very strong against even the thought of it- they are appalled. It's just not natural. Having said that though, all mankind do fall to temptation of some kind. Mine is comforting myself with food. But I admit sin is wrong and try not to do it- every Christian must- even in their mind.
 
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Prov910

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If a person has had a sex change and are now saved do they abstain because the man is now a woman or vice versa, if they cannot reverse it, or if now a man goes ahead and marry a woman (or the other way around)? I mean in their mind they were just born the wrong sex….
Perhaps the man who had a gender reassignment could seek out a woman who had a gender reassignment. Problem solved!:p
 

Pilkington

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There are a number of sex chromosome abnormalities including XO/ XY mosaicism all be it very uncommon individuals born with this may have ambigous genitalia at birth.
 
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It really doesn't matter what they do. The are still openly defying God, and thumbing their nose at Him.
 

Sac49

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This is such a "touchy" subject due to preassure from those who do not follow Gods Word. God made you who you are and that cannot ever change. If you try to change Gods plan in any way you are defying God. Gay? Against God. Sex change? Against God. There is nowhere in the Bible that states you can be a Christian and do either of these things. But "i am gay and follow Gods Word"? That is a complete contradiction of words. No way, no how according to the Word of Truth. Might as well say "I am a murderer but value human life".

This is not just "my opinion". This is according to God. The one who created everything and set everything in motion.
 
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I have been listening to debates by Dr. Michael Brown and James White vrs. others on the subject can you be a Christian and gay. I love debates they teach me both the arguments and how to answer. This is back ground for my question.

If a person has had a sex change and are now saved do they abstain because the man is now a woman or vice versa, if they cannot reverse it, or if now a man goes ahead and marry a woman (or the other way around)? I mean in their mind they were just born the wrong sex….

Just as a side note: this is crazy, in a sad/bad way, that this a valid question for today.
It's covered in the Bible, from Jesus himself. So not that new at all.

Matt. 19:[FONT=&quot]10 The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”[/FONT]
 
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If you have a 'XY' you're a male, no matter how you rearrange the 'furniture'.

If you have a 'XX', you're a female, no matter how you rearrange the 'furniture'.
And if you are XXY or 49,XXXYY?
 
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kaylagrl

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If you have a 'XY' you're a male, no matter how you rearrange the 'furniture'.

If you have a 'XX', you're a female, no matter how you rearrange the 'furniture'.

Rearrange the furniture lol Thats a pleasant way of putting it!
 
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I have been listening to debates by Dr. Michael Brown and James White vrs. others on the subject can you be a Christian and gay. I love debates they teach me both the arguments and how to answer. This is back ground for my question.

If a person has had a sex change and are now saved do they abstain because the man is now a woman or vice versa, if they cannot reverse it, or if now a man goes ahead and marry a woman (or the other way around)? I mean in their mind they were just born the wrong sex….

Just as a side note: this is crazy, in a sad/bad way, that this a valid question for today.

We are not judged by our flesh. Flesh and blood cannot enter the new heavens and earth . This is when there is no longer male and female Jew nor Gentile.

At the rise and fall of any kingdom it has to do with moral issues. It the one thing many do not learn about history its repeats itself as a mirror image turning things upside down . Satan the duplicator who calls separate that which God call one also would have mankind to believe what God calls one he calls it separate. The kingdom kingdom of God is here the father of lies would say it is. .

The LGBT is the tip of the iceberg. Destroying the word marriage offered a death blow. Beastiology on the rise. Where there is no law their is no trespass and people perish .

Reformation is on the horizon or the thief that comes in the night and we will receive our new bodies that will be neither male no female .

It would seem from my perspective Christians are be driven into the closets/caves while those who know not Christ are coming out and having a coming out party to represent their false freedom and then comes sudden destruction..
 

Sac49

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The question is "do we as Christians conform to the world or do we try to spread the Word of God?". If we preach one thing then conform to something against Gods Word then we are not preaching Gods Word. God created things a certain way because He knows what is best for us. All this other stuff is us saying "we know better than God".

Where do we stand? Do we stand in the majority or do we stand in the minority?
 
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NoNameMcgee

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And if you are XXY or 49,XXXYY?
no one i have ever heard of can get pregnant AND get a woman pregnant with their own body


Matthew 19:

12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.


the ones who have surgery and take pills


these are of men

if they turn to God after falling into this depressing and perverted deception that gender is some flimsy meaningless thing that can be changed ... and become an eunuch in the process in some cases


to abstain FOR God seems to be a better choice than to join in a homosexual relationship


this whole topic is despressing to me


since i have mutiple relatives who buy into this whole gender fluid thing

and just as many who buy into homosexuality being ok

it
breaks my heart

we should pray these people who make it that far in their blindness

and then are shown the truth.... do what ever it is God wants them to do

and i think to abstain and spread the truth of their testimony would be the best route if you have already made it so far as to mutilate your body




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just saw you already posted from mat 19


..... youre too quick lynn
 
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