Luke 21:11-12 give a clue post trib
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People always like to think that the Olivet Discourse is all about either [ strictly ] the events circa 70 A.D. or [ strictly ] the End Times Scenario. The truth is - it is neither of those - rather, it is "in between" ( in a sense ).
The preterists are wrong. The dispensationalists / futurists are wrong.
I repeat:
The "latest" thing it includes is the Second Coming of Christ.
The preterists are wrong. The dispensationalists / futurists are wrong.
I repeat:
The "latest" thing it includes is the Second Coming of Christ.
[FONT="]15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.[/FONT]
[FONT="]16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.[/FONT]
[FONT="]17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.[/FONT]
Let's not confuse the trials, tribulations, and persecution of Christians with the Great Tribulation (literally The Tribulation, The Great, in Greek). Both Daniel and Christ stated that this is a UNIQUE time period and event, such as has never been, nor ever will be. Furthermore, it is reserved for the unbelieving and the ungodly, not for the saints. It is the outpouring of God's wrath on the unbelieving and idolatrous world when it chooses to worship Satan instead of God.
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There is no requirement for Luke to say it. Nor is it a requirement for us to determine that all three accounts are talking about the same event.
There is no inaccuracy. Matthew recorded it the way he did. Mark recorded it the way he did. Learn to accept it as it is, and not get "hung up" on 'semantics' too much. You have to balance 'looking at the forest' with 'looking at the trees'. And, you shouldn't stare too hard at a spot on the back of a bug on the bark on a single tree.
There is no inaccuracy. Matthew recorded it the way he did. Mark recorded it the way he did. Learn to accept it as it is, and not get "hung up" on 'semantics' too much. You have to balance 'looking at the forest' with 'looking at the trees'. And, you shouldn't stare too hard at a spot on the back of a bug on the bark on a single tree.
Why make wild statements backed up by nothing but how you think things ought to be?
There are multiple differences between the 3 accounts, therefore you need to make a choice.
Are they confused, or are they recounting different events? What other options are there?
You have no evidence that Jesus never repeated himself. I don't what more to say, other than you are just speculating.
There are multiple differences between the 3 accounts, therefore you need to make a choice.
Are they confused, or are they recounting different events? What other options are there?
You have no evidence that Jesus never repeated himself. I don't what more to say, other than you are just speculating.
To my knowledge great tribulation happen when son of prediction in power and rapture happen after that time
2 thessalonians
[h=3]The Man of Lawlessness[/h]2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
2 thessalonians
[h=3]The Man of Lawlessness[/h]2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
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Show me where in Matthew it actually says that it took place on Monday.
Show me where in Mark it actually says that it took place on Tuesday.
Show me where in Luke it actually says that it took place on Sunday.
( Since you insist that everything must be said explicitly by each writer in the book that he wrote. )
Show me where in Mark it actually says that it took place on Tuesday.
Show me where in Luke it actually says that it took place on Sunday.
( Since you insist that everything must be said explicitly by each writer in the book that he wrote. )
look odd brother, oN monday desciple ask about when destruction of the temple and sign of second coming, Tuesday ask about destruction of the temple, and Jesus explain the sign of His coming oN the cloud. If they not ask about second coming, why the answered explain d how He come oN the cloud, and sunday they ask about temple destruction, and again Jesus explain how He appear in the cloud.
in those 3 article Jesus always tell about second coming in the cloud. To me It paralel with the story of how Jesus born, though It is in the 4 gospel doesn't mean happen 4 time.
in those 3 article Jesus always tell about second coming in the cloud. To me It paralel with the story of how Jesus born, though It is in the 4 gospel doesn't mean happen 4 time.