Naming days like the pagans. Why do we do that?

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pottersclay

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Now we can talk about Christmas and Easter and get twisted up on the do and don'ts. But please notice what I've noticed....when you give it to Jesus amazing things happen.
Why rob the joy away or possibly a time set where someone may take the time to hear the truth. Take advantage of the situation give it to God and let him do what he will. Watch what happens.
Paul did this same thing in Corinth with the statue of the unknown God. I see Paul smiling as he saw this statue...mind grinding....heart racing.....as he says to himself.....my in to these people. Let me introduce you to my wonderful friend.
Sometimes things are all in a perspective....as Joseph said."you meant it for evil but God meant it for good.
 
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Start by observance of the Sabbaths that are outlined in the feasts, and then we will know where to begin. Read Exodus chapter 16. Remember, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, He is our Creator, and I think it is laid out so no one can actually calculate the times and seasons except the Lord of the times and seasons. He created them, not us.
I know where I begin -- Jesus. I'm not going back to thinking I can keep the Law. I couldn't/wouldn't. So my eyes are on the keeper of the law, the one who saved me -- Jesus.

I will not get caught up in legalism.
 

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I think we're not only tempted in this world. We're constantly distracted by trivial stuff.

Mary chose the one thing that matters.
What did Mary choose?
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
[SUP]42 [/SUP]But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
 
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Thanks for the info on the new age acronym that is not what I meant with that I was simplying a saying (see ya , see you later, cya bud) I was being courteous what's wrong these days no one gives people the benefit of the doubt anymore the common courtesy to ask others question first and not just assume what someone meant if a person is confused or doesn't understand shouldn't just assume assume assume being 20 yrs older than me you should know that of simple respect, posting the word of God to rebuke someone you should be quick to think and ask and not assume first before you judge someone with scripture
I'm telling you from my heart about what I meant by cya and I apologize if I made you think I meant something else that's my fault for shortening a phrase but it was just a shorten phrase to say,,, see you again friend, I won't make that mistake again I will spell out my words out completely so no one gets any wrong notion of what I meant I'm not hip on all those acronyms.

good day Sir.
 
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everything is pagan. i didnt name them days but i gotta operate in this world.
 
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CYA = Cover your....:confused:.... How sad.

Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; (1 Timothy 5:1)

What have we become these days?
Ya Jesus attributed salvation to the people of earth , his life so others can live because us humans can't get it right He Loved us that much and still does
 

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Ya Jesus attributed salvation to the people of earth , his life so others can live because us humans can't get it right He Loved us that much and still does
You are who you are. That's a fact.:)
 

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everything is pagan. i didnt name them days but i gotta operate in this world.
I agree with you. The whole world is pagan in nature including the days of the week. Anything apart from God is pagan, we can only do the best with what God provides. If you hide and shut yourself from the world no one benefits. We have to keep our eyes on the prize, stay the course, and fight the good fight.

We didn't start the fire,
It was always burning since the world's been turning.
We didn't start the fire,
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it.
 

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It does not matter how a word comes about, or what it's roots are. Language is always evolving. "Gay" used to mean "Happy" but now people don't think of the word 'happy' when they see it, they think 'homosexual'. In the same way, when people see the word "Sunday" they don't think "pagan sun god" they think "First day of the week." You have to use the current word that people recognize in order to communicate according to their current understanding. Saying the word 'Sunday' does not mean you worship a pagan sun god, no worries. God knows the thoughts and intentions of every soul, and He knows you are not worshiping a false god, but just trying to communicate.
 

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And I know now, you are who you are, and mean what you do.
Thank you. Sincerity is valid, when based on truth. ;)

Remember, I was in the Army when you were born, but neither one of us are better than the other. I say that with a hopeful mutual respect, if you will, to accept that, and then we can be civil in the sight of our Master, as we together respect each other according to the truth, and not disregarding any jot or tittle that our Master has ever spoken. Please remember that our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, speaks His Father's words, whether on Mount Horeb, conversing with prophets of the OT, or the numbering of days. He is the Creator of all things, and led Israel out of Egypt. "In the beginning was the Word." We cannot rightfully deny anything our Saviour has ever said.
 
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Thank you. Sincerity is valid, when based on truth. ;)

Remember, I was in the Army when you were born, but neither one of us are better than the other. I say that with a hopeful mutual respect, if you will, to accept that, and then we can be civil in the sight of our Master, as we together respect each other according to the truth, and not disregarding any jot or tittle that our Master has ever spoken. Please remember that our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, speaks His Father's words, whether on Mount Horeb, conversing with prophets of the OT, or the numbering of days. He is the Creator of all things, and led Israel out of Egypt. "In the beginning was the Word." We cannot rightfully deny anything our Saviour has ever said.
thank you for trying to remind me your age, I know your age, but age has nothing to do with stepping on someone's kindness

the truth is or maybe it's not i will give you the benefit of the doubt. when I said (cya bud) it was not what you found it to be from the Internet of what others have coined. I explained what I meant but that isn't of your concern I get that.
 

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There can be so much difficulty in relating the Gregorian calendar to the days of the months. The Bible doesn't do that, why do we? For instance: many say that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, and rose from the dead on Sunday. The Bible says Jesus was crucified on the 14th day of the 1st month, and rose from the dead at the starting of the first day of the following week. Names of days are never mentioned in the Bible and we should all divorce the habit of naming the days that were named after pagan gods. How easy it is to fall into the trap that Satan has instigated! We all do that, including me.
I think this whole pagan days and satan's trap thing is a bit much friend. the Hebrew calendar and the gentiles calendars are not the same but that doesn't make it pagan.
 
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I think this whole pagan days and satan's trap thing is a bit much friend. the Hebrew calendar and the gentiles calendars are not the same but that doesn't make it pagan.
good post Blain, and truth be told God looks at the heart, if these words like Thursday makes a person idol Thor or Jupitor or any other pagan Gods or objects in our solar system there's the issue.

These names were indeed use to idol pagan gods and or planets a long time ago but I think that practiced has long been out of the main stream, a name of day only has power if a person allows it to be in their heart.
 
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Thank you. Sincerity is valid, when based on truth. ;)

Remember, I was in the Army when you were born, but neither one of us are better than the other. I say that with a hopeful mutual respect, if you will, to accept that, and then we can be civil in the sight of our Master, as we together respect each other according to the truth, and not disregarding any jot or tittle that our Master has ever spoken. Please remember that our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, speaks His Father's words, whether on Mount Horeb, conversing with prophets of the OT, or the numbering of days. He is the Creator of all things, and led Israel out of Egypt. "In the beginning was the Word." We cannot rightfully deny anything our Saviour has ever said.
And this makes me see even more red, I never would have been offended if you would have allowed me to explain the (cya) statement. all you had to do really is say,
(wait a minute do you mean the acronym of cover your A or did you mean something else).

I would have had no problem explaining what I meant or get offended, if you can't understand I took offense to that acronym as meaning what I wrote cya, the only thing I can say is it is what it is.


when you don't get what someone is saying we as people should have respect and ask the person to be sure what they mean.

I don't need apologizes, I'm man enough that I forgive you anyways with out it.
 

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Concerning the "true" Sabbath day, it may not be Saturday or Sunday, neither one.
For all we know it could be Wednesday, or Thursday, but what's the difference when
we are supposed to be edifying each other, and it turns into an argument about what
day of the week this or that should be observed, when none of us actually know.
The Origins of the Seven-Day Week, Eviatar Zerubavel
The Seven Day Circle: The History and Meaning of the Week, Zerubavel

"Days, months, and years were given to us by nature, but we invented the week
for ourselves. There is nothing inevitable about a seven-day cycle, or about any
other kind of week; it represents an arbitrary rhythm imposed on our activities,
unrelated to anything in the natural order. But where the week exists—

and there have been many cultures where it doesn't—it is so deeply embedded
in our experience that we hardly ever question its rightness, or think of it as an
artificial convention; for most of us it is a matter of 'second nature.'

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-Astronomy observence

"The human race never lost the septenary [seven day] sequence of week days and
that the Sabbath of these latter times comes down to us from Adam, though the ages,
without a single lapse."—Dr. Totten, professor of astronomy at Yale University.


"Seven has been the ancient and honored number among the nations of the earth.
They have measured their time by weeks from the beginning. The origin of this was
the Sabbath of God, as Moses has given the reasons for it in his writings."
—Dr. Lyman Coleman.

"By calculating the eclipses, it can be proven that no time has been lost and the
creation days were seven, divided into 24 hours each."—Dr. Hinkley,
The Watchman, July 1926 [Hinkley was a well-known astronomer].


"There has been no change in our calendar in past centuries that has affected in
any way the cycle of the week."—James Robertson, Director American Ephemeris,
Navy Department, U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, D.C., March 12, 1932.


"It can be said with assurance that not a day has been lost since Creation, and all
the calendar changes notwithstanding, there has been no break in the weekly cycle."
—Dr. Frank Jeffries, Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and Research
Director of the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, England.


There is no question about which day the seventh day of the week is.

The weekly cycle

the break between the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar?
There was a well known break of 10 days.

In 1582, that Thursday the 4th was followed by Friday the 15th.
The weekly cycle was not interrupted. Now take a look at 1752, Wednesday
the 2nd was followed by Thursday the 14th. Again, the calendar had to be
adjusted to correct it to the seasons but the weekly cycle remained unchanged.
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The seventh day was set apart and made holy at creation...
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is,
and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

God in the wilderness (Jesus Christ) revealed the seventh day to Israel for forty YEARS.
Every meal they were reminded which day was the Sabbath or not.

At the time of Christ, He and his apostles keep time by Gods calender,
but this was changed by man made tradations after Christ died.
 
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unobtrusive

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Let's talk about the sabbath when is the sabbath?
Good question. I have yet to find anyone that can tell me when we can begin counting. The only thing we (wife and I) can do is observe the feast days. Tabernacles in on the 15th of Tishri, falling on the 5th of October. So because we are both retired, we can observe that day. I have no problem with Saturday or Sunday for that matter. Our Almighty God shows grace to those who are of a sincere heart even though Jews, Gentiles, and any religion that I know of, have adopted some pagan times and seasons, not knowing we are doing that. We are in those days. Bless your heart youarewhoyouare. LOL Got to smile now and then. :)
 
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I think this whole pagan days and satan's trap thing is a bit much friend. the Hebrew calendar and the gentiles calendars are not the same but that doesn't make it pagan.
If it's not the same as scripture, it came from the adversary.
 
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Good question. I have yet to find anyone that can tell me when we can begin counting. The only thing we (wife and I) can do is observe the feast days. Tabernacles in on the 15th of Tishri, falling on the 5th of October. So because we are both retired, we can observe that day. I have no problem with Saturday or Sunday for that matter. Our Almighty God shows grace to those who are of a sincere heart even though Jews, Gentiles, and any religion that I know of, have adopted some pagan times and seasons, not knowing we are doing that. We are in those days. Bless your heart youarewhoyouare. LOL Got to smile now and then. :)
At the moment I'm not quite in the mood for laughing out loud, maybe another day my friend. thank you for creating the thread I've learned from it indeed.