salvation of gentiles in the OT
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There is no scripture on this except possibly this one:
Ro 1:16-22
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
KJV
Without any other Scriptural backing, I believe that God has revealed Himself to all who truly seek Him in all times and places.
I base this belief on what God has revealed about His character.
Ro 1:16-22
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
KJV
Without any other Scriptural backing, I believe that God has revealed Himself to all who truly seek Him in all times and places.
I base this belief on what God has revealed about His character.
Gentiles were saved in the OT the same way they are in the NT.
By grace through faith. The Jews were chose to testify of Jehovah to the nations around them. The Gentiles who believed in Jehovah God were saved.
Rahab and Ruth are two excellent examples as was noted already in this thread.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
By grace through faith. The Jews were chose to testify of Jehovah to the nations around them. The Gentiles who believed in Jehovah God were saved.
Rahab and Ruth are two excellent examples as was noted already in this thread.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I often wonder about the time in Jesus life that is not mentioned in the bible. Much of that would have been under a rabbi according to jewish tradition but after the age of 25 or so who knows where Jesus went and what He did? It is possible He went to asia to preach there since the Word doesn't specifically say He did not. Possibly the Americas and Indonesia as well.
I am pretty sure the Word mentions something about God being shown in nature...I will research.
Here is what I was able to find...
Psalm 19:1-4 19 [FONT="]The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.[/FONT][FONT="]2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Job 12:7-10 7 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:[/FONT]
[FONT="]8 Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.[/FONT]
[FONT="]9 Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this?[/FONT]
[FONT="]10 In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
Hope that helps.[/FONT]
I am pretty sure the Word mentions something about God being shown in nature...I will research.
Here is what I was able to find...
Psalm 19:1-4 19 [FONT="]The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.[/FONT][FONT="]2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Job 12:7-10 7 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:[/FONT]
[FONT="]8 Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.[/FONT]
[FONT="]9 Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this?[/FONT]
[FONT="]10 In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
Hope that helps.[/FONT]
That is also how God saw it. But the Lord did tell the Pharisees and lawyers that they compassed land and sea to make a proselyte (Gentile convert to Judaism), but they in fact made his a child of Hell.
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. (Mt 23:15).
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. (Mt 23:15).
Yes. It was by circumcision. Many that came out in the Exodus were Egyptians. And read the rape of Dinah, Gen. 34. (Not Isreal's finest moment). There were many non-Jews that followed G-d in the OT but they had to be circumcised to follow the One True G-d. That is what the big deal was about in the NT.
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"many widows were in Israel in the days of Elijah, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, and there was a great famine throughout all the land; but to none of them was Elijah sent except to Zarephath, in the region of Sidon, to a woman who was a widow. And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Elisha the prophet, and none of them was cleansed except Naaman the Syrian." (Luke 4:25-27)
Also consider the words of Cyrus, king of Persia:
"All the kingdoms of the earth the Lord God of heaven has given me. And He has commanded me to build Him a house at Jerusalem which is in Judah." (2 Chron. 36:23)
and finally what God says about Cyrus in Isaiah:
“Thus says the Lord to His anointed, To Cyrus, whose right hand I have held—" (Isaiah 45:1)
Salvation is to be salvaged from destruction, both physical and spiritual, supernaturally manifested in the One who created us.
"The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him." (Exodus 15:2)
[video=youtube;0ayhislN5I4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ayhislN5I4[/video]
Name the patriarchs of the Old Testament that issued God's words to the masses, and the true church today is commanded to follow this principle. Being saved is to be ushered into the Kingdom of God by His supernatural loving power that is beyond human capability.
"The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him." (Exodus 15:2)
[video=youtube;0ayhislN5I4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ayhislN5I4[/video]
Name the patriarchs of the Old Testament that issued God's words to the masses, and the true church today is commanded to follow this principle. Being saved is to be ushered into the Kingdom of God by His supernatural loving power that is beyond human capability.
Together with the previous post..
Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. (Numbers 15:29)
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: (Acts 10:34)
Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them. (Numbers 15:29)
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: (Acts 10:34)