Can God contradict Scripture?

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heartofdavid

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OneFaith

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All scripture comes from the mouth of God, so that would be God contradicting Himself.
 

mcubed

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No. G-d cannot contradict Scripture. If He does, ever, throw your Bible away and be a pagan because He then would be a liar and all 66 Books are not the infallible, inerrant and if ONE WORD IS NOT TRUE THEN IT'S ALL WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I'm not sure the question, "Can God (do something)?" is a valid question. God is omnipotent. As such, He *could* do anything that He wants to. Does he? No. But it's not because he can't. It's because he is not inclined to. /jmho


edit: Oyster said pretty much the same thing that I did. He posted while I was typing this post--due to my big clumsy fingers! lol
In logical terms, it is hard for us to admit God cannot do somethings, because it is against His
nature. Equally not all things are possible, because some are stopped by their own definition.
For instance a rock that cannot be lifted, could be lifted, except that would break its definition.

God restricts things because that is the nature of the thing, which would be destroyed if not
restricted. So sinners cannot be forced to be saved, it is a choice. The choice is about rejection
rather than acceptance. You cannot reject something not offered.

So if we see contradiction, we need to work at resolution. There are enough apparent issues to
make this an issue as many atheists will show you.

For instance Jesus cursing the fig tree. Did it both wither then and there , or by the next day, or both.
My wife would see a dead plant that looked ok to me. So this could be two different observations, both
true, but talking about how obvious it was.

If the order of events varies, the events stand, but when does not. Which matters, the event or its historical
context. For Jesus mostly the content is everything. For some this is a problem because they are very insecure.
 

oyster67

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In logical terms, it is hard for us to admit God cannot do somethings, because it is against His
nature. Equally not all things are possible, because some are stopped by their own definition.
For instance a rock that cannot be lifted, could be lifted, except that would break its definition.

God restricts things because that is the nature of the thing, which would be destroyed if not
restricted. So sinners cannot be forced to be saved, it is a choice. The choice is about rejection
rather than acceptance. You cannot reject something not offered.

So if we see contradiction, we need to work at resolution. There are enough apparent issues to
make this an issue as many atheists will show you.

For instance Jesus cursing the fig tree. Did it both wither then and there , or by the next day, or both.
My wife would see a dead plant that looked ok to me. So this could be two different observations, both
true, but talking about how obvious it was.

If the order of events varies, the events stand, but when does not. Which matters, the event or its historical
context. For Jesus mostly the content is everything. For some this is a problem because they are very insecure.
I am sure that if we could wrap our little minds around deep truths like omniscience and transcendence of time itself, we would be able to see through what appear to us now as paradoxes. God's ways and wisdom far exceed our own. All we need to do is live by faith. We would be in big trouble if we had to figure out everything.
 
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Miri

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:)

Numbers 23:19 NKJV
[19] "God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a
son of man, that He should repent. Has He said,
and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He
not make it good?



2 Timothy 2:11-13 NKJV
[11] This is a faithful saying: For if we died with Him, We shall also
live with Him. [12] If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we
deny Him, He also will deny us. [13] If we are faithless, He remains
faithful; He cannot deny Himself.


That's not to say God is limited be the mere
communication of black letters on a white page.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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If there is a contradiction between God and His inspired scripture, it comes from our semantics and understanding.
 
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If there is a contradiction between God and His inspired scripture, it comes from our semantics and understanding.
I read an analysis of the gospels and some of the differences between them.
One interpretation was the audience.

A for instance is the clock you use to time things during the day.
The Jewish way was from dawn, so the 3rd hour was 9am.
The roman time was our 24hr clock so the 9th hour is 9am.

Names of places also change, so it can get slightly confusing, until
you find the out the writes in their context were saying the same thing.

I have tended to trust God when I do not understand, and at a later time
it turns out not to be an issue. It is interesting how our faith has to be
exercised over such issues. There is probably nothing were our relationship
does not impinge on trust, because that is partly our failure, we easily want
certainty rather than knowing He who we have trusted is trustworthy,
Praise the Lord God is trustworthy, Amen.