Complaints about scripture using

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Blain

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There is something I have noticed here in the bdf there are some quarrels about the usage of scripture in posts.
Some think that most people here don't use scripture enough others think that the massive scripture users use scripture a lot because they think it will make their point valid even when it isn't.

How does everyone else here feel about this? My opinion is that I think it is very good use scripture but I also think we should be careful as to how we use it because sometimes we can think that we are standing on solid ground because we posted scripture but scripture can easily be misused. At the same time when the scripture aligns with what was said I think it is profitable as long it wasn't posted merely to prove yourself right.

I also have seen those who rarely use scripture but much of what they say is of scripture
 

stonesoffire

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A few scriptures posted if there are some that back your thoughts is good. Chapters not really needed, nor excessively long posts. I tend to skim over and not really read.

Though I've been guilty myself in overposting...am really trying to be short and to the point.
 

trofimus

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There is something I have noticed here in the bdf there are some quarrels about the usage of scripture in posts.
Some think that most people here don't use scripture enough others think that the massive scripture users use scripture a lot because they think it will make their point valid even when it isn't.

How does everyone else here feel about this? My opinion is that I think it is very good use scripture but I also think we should be careful as to how we use it because sometimes we can think that we are standing on solid ground because we posted scripture but scripture can easily be misused. At the same time when the scripture aligns with what was said I think it is profitable as long it wasn't posted merely to prove yourself right.

I also have seen those who rarely use scripture but much of what they say is of scripture
I prefer a middle ground: 2-3 relevant verses.

No verse means no basis, 1 verse means uncertainity, 20 verses means most of them are irrelevant or out of context almost everytime.

IMHO.
 
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I very definitely believe many people hide behind quoting scripture, simply because it is not really enough of a part of them that they can just speak in Godly principles through everyday language. Jesus frequently spoke God's word without having to resort to quoting walls of Scripture.
 

Blain

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A few scriptures posted if there are some that back your thoughts is good. Chapters not really needed, nor excessively long posts. I tend to skim over and not really read.

Though I've been guilty myself in overposting...am really trying to be short and to the point.
Normally when I see a person posting a massively long wall of scripture I also don't read it all but those kinds of posts make think they are only trying to prove themselves right, I mean it only takes one scripture to prove a point
 

NotmebutHim

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I only quote Scripture if I really feel that it would be beneficial to the discussion. I don't want to be either a Bible-thumper or a Bible-ignorer. :cool:
 
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Several times Jesus said, "You have heard it said (or read) such and such...." and then He quoted some Scripture. And, turning right around, He showed how their interpretation of that Scripture was flawed.... then He began to tell them, in words that were more to the point, and easily understood, God's true intention in having His words written in the first place.
 

Blain

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I very definitely believe many people hide behind quoting scripture, simply because it is not really enough of a part of them that they can just speak in Godly principles through everyday language. Jesus frequently spoke God's word without having to resort to quoting walls of Scripture.
I can understand that, I have debated with some who would actively post scripture but would be unable to describe their post in their own words almost like because they posted scripture that fit the bill that makes them right and no words are needed. but anyone can post scripture to make it fit a subject but you alsohave to be able describe your point in your own words as well
 

MarcR

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There is something I have noticed here in the bdf there are some quarrels about the usage of scripture in posts.
Some think that most people here don't use scripture enough others think that the massive scripture users use scripture a lot because they think it will make their point valid even when it isn't.

How does everyone else here feel about this? My opinion is that I think it is very good use scripture but I also think we should be careful as to how we use it because sometimes we can think that we are standing on solid ground because we posted scripture but scripture can easily be misused. At the same time when the scripture aligns with what was said I think it is profitable as long it wasn't posted merely to prove yourself right.

I also have seen those who rarely use scripture but much of what they say is of scripture

I believe that my opinion is just as worthless as yours or anyone else's if it contradicts Scripture.

I cite Scripture as the basis for my opinions so people can judge my understanding, or lack thereof, on whether the Scripture is properly applied.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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if you claim it's scripture or Gods word that is the foundation of what ever point you're trying to make.... and you can't back it up with scripture...


that says a lot about the point you are trying to make
 

MarcR

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Normally when I see a person posting a massively long wall of scripture I also don't read it all but those kinds of posts make think they are only trying to prove themselves right, I mean it only takes one scripture to prove a point
Scripture out of context is dangerous:

Judas took a rope and hanged himself.

Go thou and do likewise

That which thou art about to do do quickly.

ALL ARE SCRIPTURE but Scripture does NOT advocate suicide!

When citing Scripture it is best to cite enough to provide context without overkill.
 

Dino246

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I've been accused of not quoting enough Scripture. Many of the posts I make address matters of logic (the structure of arguments), so Scripture isn't always the correct tool to use. When I do quote verses to make a point, I try to keep them succinct, relevant, and consistent with their context.
 
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if you claim it's scripture or Gods word that is the foundation of what ever point you're trying to make.... and you can't back it up with scripture...


that says a lot about the point you are trying to make
I hate to be the one who has to point this out to you, but you didn't back-up a word of that post with scripture. "Pay attention and listen to the sayings of the wise; apply your heart to what I teach. "(Proverbs 22:17)
 

Marcelo

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I also have seen those who rarely use scripture but much of what they say is of scripture
No doubt it's nice to have a solid grasp on Scripture, but I know some Christians here in my country who study the Bible excessively, to the point of becoming blind to obvious truths. They quote Scripture so much that they sound like lawyers -- not children of God. One of those guys once said that the repeated sin of adultery would not prevent him from going to Heaven because the sacrifice of Jesus was perfect and complete.

I learn more from simple minded Christians -- who know only the rudiments of the gospel, but have God in their hearts -- than from such all-knowing Bible teachers.
 
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There is something I have noticed here in the bdf there are some quarrels about the usage of scripture in posts.
Some think that most people here don't use scripture enough others think that the massive scripture users use scripture a lot because they think it will make their point valid even when it isn't.

How does everyone else here feel about this? My opinion is that I think it is very good use scripture but I also think we should be careful as to how we use it because sometimes we can think that we are standing on solid ground because we posted scripture but scripture can easily be misused. At the same time when the scripture aligns with what was said I think it is profitable as long it wasn't posted merely to prove yourself right.

I also have seen those who rarely use scripture but much of what they say is of scripture
I believe a man or woman of God speaks "Scripture" daily.... without ever repeating, verbatim, even one line of text written in the Bible.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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I hate to be the one who has to point this out to you, but you didn't back-up a word of that post with scripture. "Pay attention and listen to the sayings of the wise; apply your heart to what I teach. "(Proverbs 22:17)
LOL

fair enough
 
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NoNameMcgee

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now i will post why i would say that (not being defensive willy, you definitely made me laugh)


2 John 1:9 - Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.


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Acts 17:11

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

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2 Timothy 3:16

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”



which is why if someone says something that is different than what i believe

i need this new information to be backed up by scripture



i may go so far as to change my views

lol to be honest it happened A LOT and still does sometimes
 
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UnderGrace

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Very true and lovely words, Thank you :D


I believe a man or woman of God speaks "Scripture" daily.... without ever repeating, verbatim, even one line of text written in the Bible.
 

mcubed

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I get your point but I don't think one can ever error with the "copy/past" of Scripture. It is ALWAYS ALIVE and SHARPER THAN A TWO EDGED SWORD! I quote a lot a Scripture, not giving Chapter and verse because it just comes out of my head, but to my shame I do not know where it lives (I generally have a good idea but never really want to take the time to actually look chapter and verse; unless I think it will drive home the point.)

People have misused Scripture for centuries; that's why not all theologians are good theologians... Let me pauls for a moment to plug Mather Henry (I am in love with a over 300 year your dead man)...lol

But the Scripture is always Truth, and even if we read it online (misquoted) I believe G-d protects it and the Holy Spirit illuminates us. So I say let them "copy/past" and what is of man will fall to the wast side while G-d's Word lives forever! Better to have to Word than none at all... No?....
 
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pottersclay

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Ever watch a movie about the gospels and they are all speaking king Jimmy language. Now there is always one in the crowd that says see I told ya this movie is scriptural. Lol

Can the heart of man ever understand fully the heart of God? When it comes to doctrine scripture is very important. Don't add don't take away.
That's the rock. Christ himself being that rock.

Now when it comes to the nature of Jesus many traditional teachings have stunted the growth of the church in respect to the stories the gospels tells. Case in point Jesus walks on water is referred to Peter's lack of faith, no way did I see Pete doubting but did see him get over whelmed by the storm. Yes Jesus did ask him where did you doubt but was Jesus referring to him sinking or having to cry out Lord save me.

Jesus calms the seas is focused on him speaking and the storm ceasing. Now Lets remember Jesus instructed the apostles to go across . My belief is storm or no storm they would of made lt because Jesus told them to.
Both of these stories are also prophetic with much more to glean from.