Why did Adam sin?

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posthuman

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Adam was not deceived - Eve was.
((1 Timothy 2:14))

so why did Adam - an unfallen, sinless man, undeceived, eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

not for lack of knowledge - God commanded him directly not to do this thing ((Genesis 2:17)).
not because of having sin nature, like all of us were born with - he was not fallen.
not because of being deceived, like all of us have been, and Eve also - he was not deceived.

why then?


 

Nehemiah6

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so why did Adam - an unfallen, sinless man, undeceived, eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

You would have to ask Adam. Seriously.
 
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joefizz

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Adam was not deceived - Eve was.
((1 Timothy 2:14))

so why did Adam - an unfallen, sinless man, undeceived, eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

not for lack of knowledge - God commanded him directly not to do this thing ((Genesis 2:17)).
not because of having sin nature, like all of us were born with - he was not fallen.
not because of being deceived, like all of us have been, and Eve also - he was not deceived.

why then?


The word you are looking for is "Love" Adam cared so much for Eve that though he knew eve had done wrong he partook of the fruit Eve gave,for he wished not to be divided with her.
 

Nehemiah6

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The word you are looking for is "Love" Adam cared so much for Eve that though he knew eve had done wrong he partook of the fruit Eve gave,for he wished not to be divided with her.
That is one option (among others) but we don't really know. Frankly, Adam is a real puzzle. He had everything a man could desire (including high intelligence and fellowship with God) but he acted very foolishly.
 
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Ariel82

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Was it a sin to eat the forbidden fruit or to hide from God and shift blame instead of repenting and being healed?
 
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Ariel82

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What does it mean when the Bible says that a man and woman join as one?

Is it only physical joining?
or do they join lives, hearts, souls?
 

Bladerunner

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Was it a sin to eat the forbidden fruit or to hide from God and shift blame instead of repenting and being healed?
The sin was not the eating of the tree of Knowledge but rather the sin was disobedience to GOD.
 

Nehemiah6

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What does it mean when the Bible says that a man and woman join as one?

Is it only physical joining?
or do they join lives, hearts, souls?
All of the above.
 

Magenta

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Was it a sin to eat the forbidden fruit or to hide from God and shift blame instead of repenting and being healed?
Considering the fact that Adam was commanded NOT to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, I would say that disobeying that direct commandment was a sin. Shifting the blame was not such a great idea either :D
 
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Ariel82

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1 john 5

16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

James 1
13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14 but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. 15 Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.

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Just wondering the difference between sin We can pray for someone and sin unto death?

What does it mean by full grown sin?
 
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Nehemiah6

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The sin was not the eating of the tree of Knowledge but rather the sin was disobedience to GOD.
Well you can't really separate the one from the other. With all the intelligence Adam had (he named all the animals without hesitation) he could have built a fence around the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He was given stewardship of the garden of Eden, and that should have been his first priority. He could even have posted a sign on that fence.
 

mcubed

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You're a man ever "loved" a woman?...


Amazing Y-shua said the Torah is summed up in these two things ... The first one is, Love the Lord your G-d with all your heart and all your soul ...
 

Magenta

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The commandment was given before Eve was made, and when she spoke to the serpent, she added to what we are told God said to Adam, causing me to wonder: did she add that part about not touching the tree, or did Adam in his instruction to her?
 

Locutus

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Adam was not deceived - Eve was.
((1 Timothy 2:14))

so why did Adam - an unfallen, sinless man, undeceived, eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

not for lack of knowledge - God commanded him directly not to do this thing ((Genesis 2:17)).
not because of having sin nature, like all of us were born with - he was not fallen.
not because of being deceived, like all of us have been, and Eve also - he was not deceived.

why then?
I don't see that Adam's nature is any different than our own Bones.
 
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joefizz

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Was it a sin to eat the forbidden fruit or to hide from God and shift blame instead of repenting and being healed?
My underlieing point was that he knew he was disobeying God by eating of the fruit but because of his love for Eve and desiring not to be divided with her,he ate the fruit thereby disobeying God and sinning.
 

Desertsrose

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Adam was not deceived - Eve was. ((1 Timothy 2:14)) so why did Adam - an unfallen, sinless man, undeceived, eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? not for lack of knowledge - God commanded him directly not to do this thing ((Genesis 2:17)).not because of having sin nature, like all of us were born with - he was not fallen. not because of being deceived, like all of us have been, and Eve also - he was not deceived. why then?

Hi Bones,


Actually Adam had to have been created with a nature to sin because he did sin. So that was in his nature to disobey God's command to not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He could eat everything else to his hearts content. But he wanted what God said he couldn't have.
 
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Zi

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Maybe it was a Romeo and Juliet type thing.. if he took God at His word and figured Eve would die at some point, why not go too..

Adam was not deceived - Eve was.
((1 Timothy 2:14))

so why did Adam - an unfallen, sinless man, undeceived, eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

not for lack of knowledge - God commanded him directly not to do this thing ((Genesis 2:17)).
not because of having sin nature, like all of us were born with - he was not fallen.
not because of being deceived, like all of us have been, and Eve also - he was not deceived.

why then?


 

Nehemiah6

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I don't see that Adam's nature is any different than our own Bones.
How did you arrive at this conclusion? Do you believe that when God created Adam, he placed a sin *virus* within Adam's soul? Here is what Scripture says: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good (Gen 1:31). When God sees something as "very good" it has to be perfect. So His entire creation -- included Adam, Eve, and Eden -- was perfect.
 
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Ariel82

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My underlieing point was that he knew he was disobeying God by eating of the fruit but because of his love for Eve and desiring not to be divided with her,he ate the fruit thereby disobeying God and sinning.
I don't buy it.

Eve sinned because she was curious? Adam sinned because he loved Eve?

Why couldn't Adam have sinned for the same reason as Eve?

Are you saying Adam loved Eve more tha, he loved God?

Does that make Eve his idol?

That kind of feeling may be what the world calls love but it itsnt God's agape love,

Magenta raises a good point about how Eve added to God's commandment to NOt TOUCH..
.I wonder if she touched the fruit and nothing happened and that's why she ate it.

.I wonder how many "touch" at sins before commiting then like disobedient children who test their limits to see if their parents will actually punish them?
 
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