A Bible Question But You Were Afraid To Ask

[garee]

Here is a question I have asked before, in here too, I thinks....lol
What is Paul saying, or more like meaning, when he uses the term "Fulness of the gentiles?" As the Gospel that was given to the Jews, is now, given unto the gentiles, "until the fulness thereof", or, something along those lines, then given again, to the Jews?

I have an idea, what "I" thinks it could mean, but, is really just an educated "guess."

Educated guesses as private interpretations, like fingerprints of His interpretation is what we have of His perfect law .(no laws missing)

The Jews being formed from two gentile nations (Hittites and Amorites )they in respect to the outward were temporal used as a sign in shadows up until the time of reformation. Their temporal status as special people used in parables ended .They revert back to the Gentiles, the generation of Adam, natural man which Christ called an evil generation. .

This is any person that has not the Spirit of Christ the new generation of Christ. They do not belong to God as His eternal people .

The time of the gentiles ending is the time when God is no longer bringing faith as his work to create new creatures. It will end on the last day when the new heavens and earth appear. We continue to walk by faith having not received the promise of our new incorruptible bodies which will be nether male nor female, Jew nor Gentile.

Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith (Christ's) , received not the promise:

 

[trofimus]

Why the survival of one kind depends on the pain and death of other kinds?

Do animals, fish, insects etc feel pain in the same/similar way as we do?

Why do we have so many evolution signs on our bodies, in our body chemistry etc.?

If evolution is true, who was Adam and Eve and when they lived?

 

[trofimus]

Why is satan described as a dinosaur (dragon), is there any connection between these ancient rulers of the earth and him?

 

[hornetguy]

[SUP]10 [/SUP]As soon as He was alone, [SUP][b][/SUP]His followers, along with the twelve, began asking Him about the parables. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables, [SUP]12 [/SUP]so that while seeing, they may see and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear and not understand, otherwise they might return and be forgiven.”

It sounds as if Jesus is saying that only the 12 apostles are "worthy" to hear the truth.... that is why Jesus taught in parables, because everyone else might hear the truth, and want to be forgiven/saved.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. That is my "serious" puzzle.


I asked this in another thread and got almost no response... I'm still wondering about it.

 

[NayborBear]

Educated guesses as private interpretations, like fingerprints of His interpretation is what we have of His perfect law .(no laws missing)

The Jews being formed from two gentile nations (Hittites and Amorites )they in respect to the outward were temporal used as a sign in shadows up until the time of reformation. Their temporal status as special people used in parables ended .They revert back to the Gentiles, the generation of Adam, natural man which Christ called an evil generation. .

This is any person that has not the Spirit of Christ the new generation of Christ. They do not belong to God as His eternal people .

The time of the gentiles ending is the time when God is no longer bringing faith as his work to create new creatures. It will end on the last day when the new heavens and earth appear. We continue to walk by faith having not received the promise of our new incorruptible bodies which will be nether male nor female, Jew nor Gentile.

Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith (Christ's) , received not the promise:

Hunh?

 

[IamWhoIam]

Why is satan described as a dinosaur (dragon), is there any connection between these ancient rulers of the earth and him?

i thought a dragon is of myth

Was ancient rulers tempted, I'd say yea.

 

[MarcR]

It sounds as if Jesus is saying that only the 12 apostles are "worthy" to hear the truth.... that is why Jesus taught in parables, because everyone else might hear the truth, and want to be forgiven/saved.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. That is my "serious" puzzle.


I asked this in another thread and got almost no response... I'm still wondering about it.

The intent of a parable is to take an illustration from daily living and use it to explain a spiritual truth.

Those who are open to Spiritual truth will understand the parable either on their own or with a little training and practice.

Those not open to Spiritual truth are said to be unworthy of understanding.

 

[hornetguy]

The intent of a parable is to take an illustration from daily living and use it to explain a spiritual truth.

Those who are open to Spiritual truth will understand the parable either on their own or with a little training and practice.

Those not open to Spiritual truth are said to be unworthy of understanding.

Thanks for this... but, I still see only a partial explanation.

I understand the idea of only the ones open to spiritual truth, but the way Jesus said it makes it sound as if there were some people that he didn't WANT to hear/understand the spiritual truths, because then they would want to be saved....

I'm not saying this is any kind of "deal-breaker" for me, but I simply don't understand it. It sounds 180 degrees out of phase with what I thought Jesus' message was. Salvation for all who believe, etc...

 

[MarcR]

Why the survival of one kind depends on the pain and death of other kinds?

Do animals, fish, insects etc feel pain in the same/similar way as we do?

Why do we have so many evolution signs on our bodies, in our body chemistry etc.?

If evolution is true, who was Adam and Eve and when they lived?

Why the survival of one kind depends on the pain and death of other kinds

Because the consequence of Adam's sin effected all creation. If Adam had not sinned all would be herbivores.

Do animals, fish, insects etc feel pain in the same/similar way as we do?

I believe so. If you have a cat or a dog or a horse that becomes injured, it is easy to see evidence of pain.

Why do we have so many evolution signs on our bodies, in our body chemistry etc.?

What you have been taught to call evolutionary signs are better explained as stylistic similarities in the creative work of one artist (God).

If evolution is true, who was Adam and Eve and when they lived

Evolution is NOT true!

If we believe that we are created by a sovereign God there is no rational alternative to submitting to his authority.

If someone does not want to submit to God's authority, he needs a rational alternative to creation.

When I was working toward my teaching credential, I was in a Zoology 101 class at San Francisco State U.

The professor presented a lecture on the Big Bang theory on the origin of the universe. After the lecture he took questions.

I said " Sir I have a big bang theory of my own; namely that the Encyclopedia Britanica was published accidentally when a print shop exploded. The only difference I see between my theory and yours is that I have enough sense not to believe mine."

I said " there is enough information in the genetic code of a paramecium that if it were decoded it would fill at least a 500 word essay. Your theory is easily tested. Take any book of your choice and print it out one letter at a time on 3X5 cards; take the cards to the 135th floor observation deck of the Empire State Building and try to publish a 500 word essay on 5th avenue. Information is not created by random events."

 

[trofimus]

Why the survival of one kind depends on the pain and death of other kinds

Because the consequence of Adam's sin effected all creation. If Adam had not sinned all would be herbivores.

Do animals, fish, insects etc feel pain in the same/similar way as we do?

I believe so. If you have a cat or a dog or a horse that becomes injured, it is easy to see evidence of pain.

Why do we have so many evolution signs on our bodies, in our body chemistry etc.?

What you have been taught to call evolutionary signs are better explained as stylistic similarities in the creative work of one artist (God).

If evolution is true, who was Adam and Eve and when they lived

Evolution is NOT true!

If we believe that we are created by a sovereign God there is no rational alternative to submitting to his authority.

If someone does not want to submit to God's authority, he needs a rational alternative to creation.

When I was working toward my teaching credential, I was in a Zoology 101 class at San Francisco State U.

The professor presented a lecture on the Big Bang theory on the origin of the universe. After the lecture he took questions.

I said " Sir I have a big bang theory of my own; namely that the Encyclopedia Britanica was published accidentally when a print shop exploded. The only difference I see between my theory and yours is that I have enough sense not to believe mine."

I said " there is enough information in the genetic code of a paramecium that if it were decoded it would fill at least a 500 word essay. Your theory is easily tested. Take any book of your choice and print it out one letter at a time on 3X5 cards; take the cards to the 135th floor observation deck of the Empire State Building and try to publish a 500 word essay on 5th avenue. Information is not created by random events."

Thanks for your response, but I do not think it is the right answer.

I cannot imagine a cheetah, a velociraptor, a spider, a shark or a snake to be herbivores. They are designed very clearly specifically for hunting and killing.

I do not see in the Bible that the fall of Adam produced another huge creation of a very different ecosystem with a completely different food chain.

I also see many animal instincts in my own body fighting against my spirit based on various chemistry and on evolution's survival, so I cannot see evolution as a lie. The evolutionary/animal origin of my flesh is my daily enemy.

 

[IamWhoIam]

What is dirt, where does dirt come from?

 

[IamWhoIam]

Does the earth create dirt?

 

[Enow]

you're a kind man. i don't ask questions here. eight respondents give you ten different answers. lol

Well, in everything and in anything, you should always confirm the answers by Him thus proving everything at that throne of grace. Just because someone like a pastor from the pulpit speak the truth, that doesn't mean he will never make an error from the pulpit. Biblically, that is the elders job to stand up and ask for clarity from the pastor or to correct the pastor if need be rather than wait after service when everybody has gone home having received that error from the pulpit.

 

[MarcR]

What is dirt, where does dirt come from?

The word 'dirt' is used in several different ways:

1) dirt is sometimes used as a synonym for soil or earth in that case it comes from erosion of rock by wind or water.

2) dirt sometimes refers to uncleanness of clothing or any surface. Oil, tar, grease, and many other things can cause such uncleanness.

3) dirt often refers to information about a person which can be used to damage his/her reputation particularly in a political campaign. In this case, dirt comes from the minds of the ungodly.

 

[joefizz]

why isnt adam warned about hell?????? or anyone in the old testament. something important like this should be warned u see right????? or maybe its just not written down u see

Well in Adam's case there was "no reason" to tell him of hell,for just as a child is innocent not comprehending sin so was Adam,thereby no reason for him to know of hell since he knew not sin though being an adult at least before he sinned.

 

[Enow]

it was mostly a joke, B.

i'm good, if i have a question, i ask my husband. if he can't answer, we ask at church. we're blessed in that way, but i thank you.

You can also ask the Lord at that throne of grace for wisdom as well as for answers. He is your Good Shepherd after all.

James 1:[SUP]5 [/SUP]If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. [SUP]8 [/SUP]A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Hebrews 4:[SUP]12 [/SUP]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

There has been several times when He had provided the answer before I had the need to ask Him. That is a blessing too.

 

[IamWhoIam]

The word 'dirt' is used in several different ways:

1) dirt is sometimes used as a synonym for soil or earth in that case it comes from erosion of rock by wind or water.

2) dirt sometimes refers to uncleanness of clothing or any surface. Oil, tar, grease, and many other things can cause such uncleanness.

3) dirt often refers to information about a person which can be used to damage his/her reputation particularly in a political campaign. In this case, dirt comes from the minds of the ungodly.

Yes indeed and I like your answers Sir,

1. Yes correct, and from decaying trees, leaves, grass etc, along with animals of all kind and sometimes humans as well.

2. Yes the Pharisees didn't like seeing Jesus deciples eating without washing first, the Pharisees kind of talked dirt about them lol.

3. Slang word for sure.

 

[joefizz]

Though one of those 10 answers could be the one your looking for or not, but it could be.

Yep and also as God/Jesus said "when two or more gather in my name with one mind and one accord I shall be there in the midst" so an answer potentially can be through God out of the multitudes of answers.

 

[joefizz]

Why the survival of one kind depends on the pain and death of other kinds?

Do animals, fish, insects etc feel pain in the same/similar way as we do?

Why do we have so many evolution signs on our bodies, in our body chemistry etc.?

If evolution is true, who was Adam and Eve and when they lived?

I shall answer one of your questions,yes animals feel the same kind of pain we do,if at the very least 4 legged creatures,this is shown in the story regarding baalim,where he smote his servant animal an ass 3 times and God loosed her tongue to speak after the third time expressing "why have ye smote me these 3 times"? expressing not only that the beast felt pain physically but consciously knew the difference between right and wrong and so wondered why baalim smote her when she was keeping him from being slain by an angel loyally.

 

[joefizz]

What is dirt, where does dirt come from?

Does the earth create dirt?

From what I know of the bible dirt/soil is referred to as "earth"I believe that the ground without flooring or concealment is earth other wise known as dirt/soil.