the ten commandments

[followjesus]

seems that so many continue to remove these commandments of God from christianity, can anyone really disagree with them though? who can say its irrelevant whether you have a different god than the only true God? or its irrelevant whether you steal? Kill? commit adultery? Lie? covet? its sad that so few see the value of God the Creator and final authorities Words goven to His creation, when He has made it of utmost importance from the start. imagine if all people looked at these as the Law and obeyed it......a world of peace and Harmony would result...think it through before you tell people the covenant Law doesnt apply, think about what you are saying doesnt apply. Gods Word is good and right, and for mankinds good.



exodus 20:1-17 "And God spake all these words, saying,
2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13Thou shalt not kill.
14Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15Thou shalt not steal.
16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.



God bless you and enlighten the Mind within you and teach you to Love His ways beginning with the ten commandments, i would encourage you to share more of what God said, rather than opinions and popular ways of man.

 

[oldhermit]

seems that so many continue to remove these commandments of God from christianity, can anyone really disagree with them though? who can say its irrelevant whether you have a different god than the only true God? or its irrelevant whether you steal? Kill? commit adultery? Lie? covet? its sad that so few see the value of God the Creator and final authorities Words goven to His creation, when He has made it of utmost importance from the start. imagine if all people looked at these as the Law and obeyed it......a world of peace and Harmony would result...think it through before you tell people the covenant Law doesnt apply, think about what you are saying doesnt apply. Gods Word is good and right, and for mankinds good.



exodus 20:1-17 "And God spake all these words, saying,
2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13Thou shalt not kill.
14Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15Thou shalt not steal.
16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.



God bless you and enlighten the Mind within you and teach you to Love His ways beginning with the ten commandments, i would encourage you to share more of what God said, rather than opinions and popular ways of man.

The ten commandments are nothing more than the embodiment of eternal principles that are rooted in the reality of God and man's relationship to God. The New testament as well as the Old Testament are both built upon these generalized principles which stand as the foundation of man's relationship to God and man's relationship to man. Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles.

 

[followjesus]

The ten commandments are nothing more than the embodiment of eternal principles that are rooted in the reality of God and man's relationship to God. The New testament as well as the Old Testament are both built upon these generalized principles which stand as the foundation of man's relationship to God and man's relationship to man. Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles.

i would have to disagree with you old hermit. the Law of moses is useful in every way to christians and all of us should study it and apply its principles to Life. The Only part of the Mosaic Law that is not necassary anymore are the ordinances of cleansing, and the sacrificial Laws of blood sacrifice, the festivals, special sabbaths and moon festivals and things that fall along those Lines, every aspect of Gods Law of morality applies with the Gospel to Christian, and Jew.

every aspect of the morality applies in full and is useful in every way. it is actually necassary at some points to look at the Old to even understand the New. for instance the New testament" forbides sexual Immorality and names it a sin of death"


however the new testament never tells the reader what is Moral sexually? and what is immoral sexually. this Just One example

1corinthians 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God"



so How does one define what sexual Immorality is according to God???? you look to the Law of moses, where Gods morality is detailed, and will never change just one section regarding sexual morality....


leviticus 18 "None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD. 7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. 9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.

10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, eventheir nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness. 11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman.

13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman. 14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt. 15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 1

6Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness. 17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.19Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness. 20Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. 21And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.24Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 25And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 26Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 27(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled 28That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. 29For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.30Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God."



God will never change, His Law is actually precious to christians and its terrible that so many think its useless they are right, and Wrong. Gods Judgements will never change what He told them, will always Be right regardng morality, they are Gods Ways of Life. people need to understand "love" doesnt replace the Law, it will always fulfill and uphold the Law of Gods Morality. its not really Love if im stealing from you= thou shalt not steal. its not really Love if im cheating on my wife= thou shalt not commit adultery, its not Love if i kill you= thou shalt not Kill.....


the Law is fulfilled in Christ not replaced or abolished. People should learn the Law pf morality and abide in it forgetting the ordinances, cleansing rites, sacrifices ect. but learn the Law of righteosuness. that is within the Law meant for those who Believe in Jesus Christ. its actually whats missing in christianity these days. Morality, responsibility, accountability, Learning and Growing in His ways.


if you look at the Law fro0m the Gospel you understand what has been fulfilled and what is meant to fill us with the righteousness of God.


God bless though I would actually be weary of explaining Gods Law away its not a good peice of advice we should learn to see it through the Gospel and Learn to Live and Love its blessing

 

[Kavik]

The Ten Commandments are a moral code, if you will, of the Jewish people (which, of course, subsequently entered into Christianity). I’m sure there are volumes of commentary that could be found on them (particularly in Judaism) that delve into every aspect.

One can imagine that during the Exodus some degree of law, a code of conduct of sorts, for this group of people needed to be established. Indeed, as one reads the Exodus narrative, it seems that the people had already fallen into some degree of lawlessness (as defined by the morals of the times).

The moral codes which encompass the commandments are in fact virtually identical to moral codes of other neighboring peoples. Like the Ten Commandments, these moral codes found in other neighboring cultures and peoples were also committed to writing.

I’m not trying to belittle the commandments or their importance in any way, but they are by no means unique to Judaism (and subsequently Christianity); almost every culture in that part of the world had a similar set of moral codes traditionally ascribed to a deity. These same moral codes were around a lot longer than Moses and the people of the Exodus.

Indeed, every one of the Ten Commandments in Exodus may be found in the “Negative Confessions” of the Egyptian Book of the Dead. The Negative Confessions are worded a bit differently in that they are negative statements rather than the imperative statements of the Exodus narrative, i.e. “Not have I…..(done such and such a thing)” as opposed to “Thou shalt not….(do such and such a thing)”.

The only one that differs a bit is the first – the Jewish people asserted monotheism; thus the first commandment reinforces this concept of ‘one god’, as opposed to worshiping many as in the Negative Confessions.

Virtually all religious laws in ancient times were considered to have come directly from the gods and dictated to mankind. I strongly suspect the Jews of Exodus cribbed from the Egyptians; a culture and set of moral codes they would have been very familiar with. Certainly Moses, being raised in the household of a pharaoh and the Egyptian royal court, would have been familiar with the Book of the Dead and the Negative Confessions.

Even the Ark of the Covenant is very Egyptian in design; it is virtually identical to similar such chests found, for example, in the tomb of Tutankhamun as well as those depicted in Egyptian art. It’s a type of container the Jews of the Exodus would have been very familiar with. Cherubim (a Hebrew concept) on the top instead of winged Sphynxes (an Egyptian concept); though these two being were almost identical in appearance – really about the only difference.

 

[unobtrusive]

The ten commandments are nothing more than the embodiment of eternal principles that are rooted in the reality of God and man's relationship to God. The New testament as well as the Old Testament are both built upon these generalized principles which stand as the foundation of man's relationship to God and man's relationship to man. Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles.

Are not the instructions of love defined in what you say are "Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles?" (Leviticus chapter 19)

 

[Hizikyah]

1 John 4:19-21, "We love Him, because He first loved us. If anyone says: I love YHWH, and hates his neighbor, he is a liar; for he who does not love his neighbor whom he has seen, how can he love YHWH Whom he has not seen? For we have this commandment from Him: That he who loves YHWH must love his neighbor also."


1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."

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[oldhermit]

Are not the instructions of love defined in what you say are "Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles?" (Leviticus chapter 19)

It is the commandment of Loving the Lord your God and your neighbor as yourself that the 10 commandments rest. You cannot fulfill any of the commandments without honoring this principle commandment.

 

[unobtrusive]

It is the commandment of Loving the Lord your God and your neighbor as yourself that the 10 commandments rest. You cannot fulfill any of the commandments without honoring this principle commandment.

Tell me then, how do I love my neighbour outside of the instructions given in Leviticus 19 principles described therein? I can't do it. Do we make up our own principles of love when denying the instructions of how to do it God's way?

 

[oldhermit]

Tell me then, how do I love my neighbour outside of the instructions given in Leviticus 19 principles described therein? I can't do it. Do we make up our own principles of love when denying the instructions of how to do it God's way?

I really do not think you understood at all what I was saying about the 10 commandment or their subsequent legal instructions.

 

[unobtrusive]

The ten commandments are nothing more than the embodiment of eternal principles that are rooted in the reality of God and man's relationship to God. The New testament as well as the Old Testament are both built upon these generalized principles which stand as the foundation of man's relationship to God and man's relationship to man. Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles.

Tell me then, how do I love my neighbour outside of the instructions given in Leviticus 19 principles described therein? I can't do it. Do we make up our own principles of love when denying the instructions of how to do it God's way?

I really do not think you understood at all what I was saying about the 10 commandment or their subsequent legal instructions.

You haven't understood me either. I will quote God's principles in part concerning how to love our neighbour at this point. You will see, as others who reads this post, that the principles of love are for us as well as Israel.The law is still in effect for all that believe. Our Lord "hates" anti-semitism and division concerning His people.

Leviticus 19:11-18
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

This is a small part of the law of righteousness and love. It's the way to act once we believe.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mat 7:12, "So then, whatever you desire that others would do to and for you, even so do also to and for them, for this is (sums up) the Law and the Prophets."



Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."


“all” is word #G3650 - holos - Strong's Concordance, holos: whole, complete, Original Word: ὅλος, η, ον, Part of Speech: Adjective, Transliteration: holos, Phonetic Spelling: (hol'-os), Short Definition: all, the whole, entire, Definition: all, the whole, entire, complete


Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) all, whole, completely


Romans 13:9-10, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and (#G2087 ) any othercommandments aresummed up ( #G346 ) in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."


“any”is word #G2087 - heteros
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the other, another, other, 1 to number,1a1) to number as opposed to some former person or thing,1a2) the other of two,1b) to quality,1b1) another: i.e. one not of the same nature, form, class, kind, different


“summed up” is word #G346 – anakephalaioó: to sum up, gather up, Original Word: ἀνακεφαλαιόω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: anakephalaioó, Phonetic Spelling: (an-ak-ef-al-ah'-ee-om-ahee), Short Definition: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one, Definition: I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one

 

[oldhermit]

You haven't understood me either. I will quote God's principles in part concerning how to love our neighbour at this point. You will see, as others who reads this post, that the principles of love are for us as well as Israel.The law is still in effect for all that believe. Our Lord "hates" anti-semitism and division concerning His people.

Leviticus 19:11-18
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

This is a small part of the law of righteousness and love. It's the way to act once we believe.

Like I said, you do not understand what I said in my original statement.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

1 Timothy 1:5, “Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned.”

1 Timothy 1:5-7, " But the goal* of our instruction/command is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions."

Matt 23:23, "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithes on mint, anise, and cumin, but have neglected the more important matters of the Law-judgment, mercy, and faith. Tithing you ought to have done, without leaving the other undone."

 

[unobtrusive]

Like I said, you do not understand what I said in my original statement.

Your original statement "Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles," is what I was addressing. This statement of yours indicates that Christians separated themselves from Israel, concluding that everything else in the law was separated from the church, and only for Israel, yet Jesus said "salvation is of the Jews."

 

[hornetguy]

It seems as if the OP has overlooked the fact that Jesus himself said that the law was incomplete.

"You have heard it said...." you shall not murder... Jesus says that's not complete.. we are not to even hate anyone, because that is murder in our hearts. The Jews were ok simply to NOT carry out the physical act of murder. Jesus said that's not enough.

you shall not commit adultery..... Jesus said we are not to even have lustful thoughts about someone.... simply not committing the physical act of adultery was not enough.... according to Jesus.

So, which "law" are we to follow? The old Mosaic law that spelled out all the jots and tittles, ad nauseum..... which Jesus himself said NOBODY could keep correctly.. or, do we follow the "law" that Jesus brought, as mentioned by Oldhermit.... love the Lord God with all our hearts, and love our neighbor as ourselves...

those commands cover EVERYTHING.

 

[BillG]

Tell me then, how do I love my neighbour outside of the instructions given in Leviticus 19 principles described therein? I can't do it. Do we make up our own principles of love when denying the instructions of how to do it God's way?

My understanding is that the 10 commandments were summed up as follows by Jesus

Matthew 22:34-40
The Scribes: Which Is the First Commandment of All?
34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
37 Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

The first 4 relate to God and the next 6 relate to how we love our neighbour as ourselves.

To me Leviticus 19 is just reiterating the 10 commandments amongst other things.

What we do find is

Leviticus 19:18
18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

Now what I find intersting and I am not saying it’s wrong (Afterall Jesus says is) but why stop or only focus on that?

Matthew 5:38-48
Go the Second Mile
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’
39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.
40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.
41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.
42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.
Love Your Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

 

[oldhermit]

Your original statement "Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles," is what I was addressing. This statement of yours indicates that Christians separated themselves from Israel, concluding that everything else in the law was separated from the church, and only for Israel, yet Jesus said "salvation is of the Jews."

And what do you think I mean by that?

 

[oldhermit]

Your original statement "Everything else within the Law of Moses were simply regulations and ordinances that instructed ISRAEL in how THEY were to honor these eternal principles," is what I was addressing. This statement of yours indicates that Christians separated themselves from Israel, concluding that everything else in the law was separated from the church, and only for Israel, yet Jesus said "salvation is of the Jews."

Do you nor understand that the Law was given only to the Jews, that it was NEVER binding on anyone but the Jew, and that the law is no longer binding in anyone including the Jew.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I posted this in another thread, and it can certainly be posted in this thread.

Well when God says "I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts" what other laws could they be other than the Ten Commandments, which are then worked out in the Law of Love? (Romans 13:8-10 which specifically refers to five of those commandments, and then Paul says "if there be any other commandment", indicating that all Ten Commandents are within the Law of Love).

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Furthermore, Prince had a solemn duty and responsibility to study the Scriptures before presenting his nonsense, since we also find this in Scripture, with reference to the Law of Love (called the Royal Law or the Law of Liberty)

8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. (James 2:8-12)

Now the Lord Jesus Christ took the Ten Commandments and distilled them into the TWO GREATEST COMMANDMENTS. He was certainly NOT finding fault with the Ten Commandments, nor was He declaring them obsolete. He was in fact firmly ESTABLISHING them as these two (Mark 12:28-31):

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. [covering the first four commandments]

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [covering the last six commandments] There is none other commandment greater than these.

Now Paul took "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" and made that the Law of Love. James took that also, and made it the Royal Law or the Law of Liberty. And this is what God has written in the hearts and minds of believers. So do you see now how Prince has attacked a fundamental Bible truth? Does James say that we will be judged by the Law of Liberty? And does James say that Christians can commit sin? If so, how can the Ten Commandments be faulty or obsolete?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Do you nor understand that the Law was given only to the Jews, that it was NEVER binding on anyone but the Jew, and that the law is no longer binding in anyone including the Jew.

The Ten Commandments -- which are within the Law of Moses -- have universal application as well as application within the New Covenant. Please read my post above. There are other laws in the Torah which are not presently applicable to either Jew or Gentile. But that is a separate issue.