LIFE UNDER THE NEW COVENANT :)

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What laws was God referring to when He said, “I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts”? He was certainly not referring to the Ten Commandments, known as the laws of the old covenant, since He said that He found fault with that covenant and declared it obsolete. (Hebrews 8:7–9, 13)

The laws that God puts in our minds and writes on our hearts refer to the royal law of love (Matthew 22:37–40), the perfect law of liberty (James 1:25) and the law of faith. (Romans 3:27) These are the laws of the new covenant.

You live according to the laws of the new covenant when you are conscious of how much God loves you. And the more you are conscious of His love for you, the more your heart is filled with love. When that happens, you will love God and the people around you supernaturally and effortlessly. That is God writing on your heart the royal law of love—that we love because He first loved us. (1 John 4:19)

Secondly, when you know that you are perfectly accepted by God because of Jesus’ sacrifice, you can have the courage and liberty as a child of God to come boldly into the presence of your heavenly Father. And in His presence, He is able to write on your heart new desires. You will find yourself wanting to do the right thing at the right time. You will live life victoriously from the inside out. This is the perfect law of liberty operating in your life.

Thirdly, when you sense what God is writing on your heart and putting in your mind, and as your faith is activated causing you to trust Him and His love for you, He calls it obeying the law of faith. When that happens, whatever you believe, you receive!

My friend, God has made it easy—and you will find that it is exciting—to live life under the new covenant!

Destined To Reign Devotional by Pastor Joseph Prince

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I'm very thankful to be under the new covenant. But it's always a surprise to learn that I am open to hearing the Word read and preached and taught the more I learn about God's love IN Christ for me. For instance I had forgotten that it is not the 10 commandments that are written on our hearts. It's the royal law of love.

Generally I thought it was about no longer needing the 10 commandments told to me or memorized.., but that God would put them in my heart so I'd naturally follow them. But no., it's the royal law of love that causes me to follow Him. How amazing is that??!! It always comes back to the love of God IN Christ. How wonderful is that!!!!!!
 
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​When perusing the threads here on CC., it's amazing now that I notice more the truth of our righteous standing IN Christ is a must "know" in order to rightly divide the Word of Truth. It has to be seen when we are reading or hearing or studying the Bible.

If a preacher tells us we stand in our own righteousness based on our works., we can't listen to them. Jesus gave us the gift of HIS righteousness. We have HIS righteousness in us now giving us a new born again spirit.

We who have Jesus as our Savior now have His righteousness and the Holy Spirit. We were once in Adam dead in our trespasses and sins... now we are ALIVE IN Christ. Our relationship to God has totally changed now that we are IN Christ. The reconciliation we have involves a changed relationship because our trespasses and sins are NO longer counted against us since they have alllll been taken AWAY.

Hebrews 8:10 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more. We are now the righteousness of God IN Christ. That is who we are now. We are not who were once were alone and without God in the world.

2 Cor.5:21
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For our sake He made Christ [virtually] to be sin Who knew no sin, so that in and through Him we might become [[SUP][a][/SUP]endued with, viewed as being in, and examples of] the righteousness of God [what we ought to be, approved and acceptable and in right relationship with Him, by His goodness]. Amplified Bible


[SUP]21 [/SUP]Him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; that we might become the righteousness of God in him. NAS

[SUP]21 [/SUP]For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. KJV

[SUP]21 [/SUP]God[SUP][a][/SUP] made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that God’s righteousness would be produced in us. ISV










 

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What laws was God referring to when He said, “I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts”? He was certainly not referring to the Ten Commandments, known as the laws of the old covenant, since He said that He found fault with that covenant and declared it obsolete. (Hebrews 8:7–9, 13)
Another false teaching from Joseph Prince. So joaniemarie, before you start telling us how wonderful this posting is, do some independent Bible study and determined whether this opening statement is true or false. If it is false, you should stop posting nonsense from Joseph Prince.
 
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I am curious now.... do you have the Ten Commandments written on your heart?



Another false teaching from Joseph Prince. So joaniemarie, before you start telling us how wonderful this posting is, do some independent Bible study and determined whether this opening statement is true or false. If it is false, you should stop posting nonsense from Joseph Prince.
 

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I am curious now.... do you have the Ten Commandments written on your heart?
The better question would be "Did God find fault with the Ten Commandments and declare the Ten Commandments obsolete?" That is what Prince has stated, and it is sheer nonsense. In fact, it is heresy.
 
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Are the Ten Commandments separate form the other 613 commandments?

Where in scripture are they declared separate?

The better question would be "Did God find fault with the Ten Commandments and declare the Ten Commandments obsolete?" That is what Prince has stated, and it is sheer nonsense. In fact, it is heresy.
 
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The ten commandments are GOD's perfect standard for righteousness so then there Is nothing wrong with the ten commandments but man would come short of keeping GOD's perfect standard of righteousness so then how would man be able to be perfect the way our FATHER In heaven Is perfect?
 
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The law was added because of transgression.There Is no sin where there Is no law.
 
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Christ Jesus :)


The ten commandments are GOD's perfect standard for righteousness so then there Is nothing wrong with the ten commandments but man would come short of keeping GOD's perfect standard of righteousness so then how would man be able to be perfect the way our FATHER In heaven Is perfect?
 
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Life under the New Covenant = Free indeed!
 

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Are the Ten Commandments separate form the other 613 commandments?

Where in scripture are they declared separate?
The fact that the Ten Commandments were written with "the finger of God" (supernaturally) on two tablets of stone speaks for itself.

But you still have not given any serious thought to how heretical Joseph Prince really is, and how is is leading Christians astray. That is the nature of spiritual deception.
 
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I'm very thankful to be under the new covenant. But it's always a surprise to learn that I am open to hearing the Word read and preached and taught the more I learn about God's love IN Christ for me. For instance I had forgotten that it is not the 10 commandments that are written on our hearts. It's the royal law of love.

Generally I thought it was about no longer needing the 10 commandments told to me or memorized.., but that God would put them in my heart so I'd naturally follow them. But no., it's the royal law of love that causes me to follow Him. How amazing is that??!! It always comes back to the love of God IN Christ. How wonderful is that!!!!!!
What is the Royal Law and the Law of Liberty?

James 2:8-12

8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

It is the same Law given in the Old testament and spoken of by Jesus who says on these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets....

Matthew 22:36-40
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38, This is the first and great commandment. 39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40, On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Jesus was quoting from the Old Testament writings.......

Deuteronomy 6:4-6
4, Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5, And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6, And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Leviticus 19:13
13, Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. 14, Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumbling block before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD. 15, Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. 16, Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. 17, Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18, Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.We are only saved by God's Grace through faith in His Word............
Ephesians 2:8-9
We are only saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God lest any man should boast.

We need a new heart and our faith must work by love...................

Galations 5:6

For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which works by love.

Rom 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Love is the fulfilling of God's Law (10 commandments)

Romans 13:8-10

8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another hath fulfilled the law <Matt 22:36-40; Deut 6:5; Lev 19:18>. 9, For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10, Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. <links with James 2:8-12 >

James 2:8-12
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Lets put it all together...........

We need a new heart (circumcision) to love. The Royal Law is love to God and man that works by love through faith in God's Word. Faith in God's Word allows God to change our hearts from stone to flesh to love as he first loved us. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law (10 commandments) in us who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit....

We are better off pointing people to God's Word over the teachings and traditions of man because it is only through God's Word that anyone can find Jesus....

May God bless you all as you seek him through his Word.
 

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The law was added because of transgression.There Is no sin where there Is no law.
Let's clarify this so that there is no misunderstanding. God's Law has always existed since it is a revelation of His character. However until the time of Moses it was not spelled out and codified. Transgressions existed from Adam to Moses, but after the Law was given, no man could claim that he had not sinned, since the Ten Commandments would expose his sins.

But that verse does NOT say "there is no sin where there is no law". You tacked that on by yourself. Here is what that verse says:

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. (v 19)

And here is what the Law would accomplish:

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. (v 22)

So one of the functions of the Law was to declare the whole human race as guilty before God, so that all sinners would repent and turn to Christ for salvation.

But that is NOT the sole function of the Law, and we need to keep things in context. In any event Joseph Prince claims that God found fault with the Ten Commandments and therefore they were rendered obsolete. That is a total lie and the New Testament proves it.
 

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We are under a new covenant no longer in need of the old school master. We have the HolySpirit who will teach us... we have a new heart now. The old covenant based on our works IS not needed anymore. Read Heb.8:13
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13 [/SUP]In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. But that which is becoming old and waxeth aged is nigh unto vanishing away. NAS

[SUP]13 [/SUP]When God speaks of a new [covenant or agreement], He makes the first one obsolete (out of use). And what is obsolete (out of use and annulled because of age) is ripe for disappearance and to be dispensed with altogether. Amplified Bible


[SUP]13 [/SUP]In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Authorized KJV


[SUP]13 [/SUP]The mere fact that God speaks of a new covenant or agreement makes the old one out of date. And when a thing grows weak and out of date it is obviously soon going to be dispensed with altogether. Phillips translation





God found fault with the old. The covenant of Mosses is no longer applicable for us. No longer relevant for the new covenant believer. Hebrews 8:7

[SUP]7 [/SUP]For if that first covenant had been without defect, there would have been no room for another one or an attempt to institute another one.

This may come as a shock to some believers but this is what it means to be under the new covenant. We have respect for the old but we are no longer under it.., no longer need that old schoolmaster It was a good school master for the time it was used but now we are under another. This doesn't mean we don't have respect for what the old schoolmaster was used for at the time. But now we move on to better things.,,, Jesus Christ the Son of God was given so we could be under this new covenant. Jesus paid the price. How come there are new covenant believers living under the old covenant of law? I think it's because they have not heard that Jesus has actually brought in the new covenant. I didn't hear until about 4 years ago.







 
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Let's clarify this so that there is no misunderstanding. God's Law has always existed since it is a revelation of His character. However until the time of Moses it was not spelled out and codified. Transgressions existed from Adam to Moses, but after the Law was given, no man could claim that he had not sinned, since the Ten Commandments would expose his sins.

But that verse does NOT say "there is no sin where there is no law". You tacked that on by yourself. Here is what that verse says:

Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. (v 19)

And here is what the Law would accomplish:

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. (v 22)

So one of the functions of the Law was to declare the whole human race as guilty before God, so that all sinners would repent and turn to Christ for salvation.

But that is NOT the sole function of the Law, and we need to keep things in context. In any event Joseph Prince claims that God found fault with the Ten Commandments and therefore they were rendered obsolete. That is a total lie and the New Testament proves it.
I don't know If brother Joseph said that are not but I know that the law Is GOD's perfect standard of righteousness so then If brother Joseph said that,I'm sure he probably just needs to clarify any confusion.

I know man could not keep the law with his own strength so that Is probably what he pastor Joseph meant.:)
 

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I don't know If brother Joseph said that are not but I know that the law Is GOD's perfect standard of righteousness so then If brother Joseph said that,I'm sure he probably just needs to clarify any confusion.

I know man could not keep the law with his own strength so that Is probably what he pastor Joseph meant.:)

LOL Well., By all means we should be kind to poor JP especially since so many misunderstand the guy. But moving away from JP who is just another man's opinion., let's use Pastor Prince's devotional as a spring board into the discussion about what the "new covenant" is all about. Many Christians are like I was., unaware that we are even IN another covenant.

I had no idea what that meant until just a few years ago. Despite what some may think of JP., this has nothing to do with him (he's just one of the messengers., and we shouldn't shoot those guys) Christians need to begin to open the Scriptures up about what the law IS for us today. How it applies to us today. And how we should think of it today.

As much as some want to shoot messengers.,., let's look at what is being said here in the Bible.



 

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The New Covenant is to Keep the Commandments of GOD and Have the Faith of Jesus.

What was written in stone is written on our hearts and mind through Faith in GOD's Son.

We Keep GOD's Law through the New Spirit given.

This Prince is very subtle in his teachings but those with Holy Spirit can spot the wolves, GOD be thanked.

It is a New Covenant.

Love Fulfills the Royal Law but GOD's Law the 10 Commandments are not broken if we Love GOD with all our being and each other as ourself.. no.. not one is broken when we have Love.

The problem that arises from the above teaching is unbelief.. if you are not reaching for the Messiah's Testimony in your mind to test Prince then you lack belief.

For all the New Testament affirms GOD's Law.

Those misused verses are teaching the New in place of the Old.. yet the error stems from not building your house on the Good foundation of The Messiah's Testament.. not believing this:

Matthew 5


19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.



We can't break that which is not in force.. yet the Royal law established a higher expectation of us through the Spirit because Love does not permit us to be angry at each other without a cause or call each other fools etc.. we are not to even look at a person and lust let alone commit adultery..