Is the great biblical flood real or not?

[Nehemiah6]

Here is the evidence that shows it is indeed real

If the Great Flood (also called the Deluge) was not a real, historical flood, then we should give up believing the Bible. Christians need to know that the Old Testament was under attack by the Higher Critics for a long time, and since they did not believe that the Bible was Divinely inspired, for them everything in the OT was myths, legends, and fairy tales. On the other hand, there are learned men and scientists who believe without the shadow of a doubt that the Flood was as real as Noah. For those who may not have read it, read The Genesis Flood by Whitcomb and Morris (Christians).

https://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Flood-50th-Anniversary/dp/159638395X

 

[Bladerunner]

Here is the evidence that shows it is indeed real

I have the images to show you but I cannot upload them & I don't know why?

Read your Bible, look around and get a picture of the Grand Canyon.... It was the results of Noah's flood.

 

[prove-all]

Google - "local flood Bible proof"

That did not answer the question that was asked.


"Where in the bible does it say it was a local event ? "

the bible says the floodwater covered the entire Earth,
and every living thing that is in the earth would die.


“And, behold, I even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh,
wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth
shall die …..... every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the
face of the earth” (Genesis 6:17; 7:4).



Where [in the bible] do you see a local event?

 

[prove-all]

The Epic of Gilgamesh is probably the most famous extra-biblical Flood account.




It is found on a series of tablets from the ancient city of Sumeria. The most complete tablets date to around 650 b.c., but these are known to be copies from more ancient tablets (parts of which have been found), dating to around 2000 b.c. In turn, these 4,000-year-old tablets are themselves thought to have been sourced from even older material. Chronologically, this puts the Sumerian account quite close to the time of the flood that the Bible indicates.

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[prove-all]

Another ancient account of a great flood is the Babylonian Ark Tablet.
This dates to around 1900–1700 b.c.

There is the Greek myth of Deucalion. The ancient Chinese told many myths about floods,
some describing the waters as “reaching heaven.”

In “Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood?”, John Morris,
Ph.D., described his collection and analysis of more than 200 accounts of floods, originally
reported by missionaries, anthropologists and ethnologists. He wrote:

While the differences are not always trivial, the common essence of the stories
is instructive, as compiled below:

¦Is there a favored family? 88%
¦Were they forewarned? 66%
¦Is flood due to wickedness of man? 66%
¦Is catastrophe only a flood? 95%
¦Was flood global? 95%
¦Is survival due to a boat? 70%
¦Were animals also saved? 67%
¦Did animals play any part? 73%
¦Did survivors land on a mountain? 57%
¦Was the geography local? 82%
¦Were birds sent out? 35%
¦Was the rainbow mentioned? 7%
¦Did survivors offer a sacrifice? 13%
¦Were specifically eight persons saved? 9%

Morris concluded his article by writing:

The only credible way to understand the widespread, similar flood legends is to recognize
that all people living today, even though separated geographically, linguistically and culturally,
have descended from the few real people who survived a real global flood, on a real boat which
eventually landed on a real mountain. Their descendants now fill the globe, never to forget the
real event.

 

[crossnote]

[h=2]Is the great biblical flood real or not?[/h]If it ain’t real, it ain’t great.

 

[Innerfire89]

It why theres fossils, especially of insects and jellyfish that could only leave imprints if they were covered by dirt in a flood. There's also closed oyster shells on top of Mt Everest. Oysters only close when they're alive and taken out of water.
Dino eggs in the higher parts of the Grand Canyon. Animals lay eggs when in stress, like the stress of running for high ground during flood.
Oil had to have come from somewhere, all that oil is just the dead stuff from the flood. Kinda weird to think about it at the gas station. Lol


As for intreperating Scripture there's no good reason to conclude the the flood wasn't a literal flood that covered the whole earth, if it wasn't then why would the ark contain two of every kind?

 

[trofimus]

That did not answer the question that was asked.


"Where in the bible does it say it was a local event ? "

the bible says the floodwater covered the entire Earth,
and every living thing that is in the earth would die.


“And, behold, I even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh,
wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth
shall die …..... every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the
face of the earth” (Genesis 6:17; 7:4).



Where [in the bible] do you see a local event?

Question was where doest the Bible say it.

And Google will give you much evidence from the Bible about local flood, so I think its useless for me to write them down and then argue about them.

If somebody's faith is based on a global flood, I have no interest to get in a fight for that. I know its very incorporated to Young Earth and "no evolution" etc, so it would be very exhausting to get into all of it.

Who just wants information, its on the web.

 

[prove-all]

I think it was probably local and quite long ago...
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Though the bible would say differently,

If you say so...

Not what I say, it is what the bible says,
where in the bible does it say it was a local event?

Google - "local flood Bible proof"

That did not answer the question that was asked.

"Where in the bible does it say it was a local event ? "

Question was where doest the Bible say it.
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no the question was and still is

Where in the bible does it say it was a local event ?

 

[trofimus]

no the question was and still is

Where in the bible does it say it was a local event ?

Now I am sure it would be meaningless to begin this discussion.

 

[Issachar92]

It happened exactly like it said it did. Noah's flood was a literal worldwide flood.

 

[IamWhoIam]

After the rain clouds subsided.

 

[prove-all]

Now I am sure it would be meaningless to begin this discussion.

so I see you have no bible verses for a local event only?

 

[Circumcised_Heart]

Here is the evidence that shows it is indeed real

I have the images to show you but I cannot upload them & I don't know why?

There are sea shells in deserts! How can anyone doubt?

 

[IamWhoIam]

Genesis 7

17Then the flood came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth.
18The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water.
19The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered.
20The water prevailed fifteen cubits higher, and the mountains were covered.
21All flesh that moved on the earth perished, birds and cattle and beasts and every swarming thing that swarms upon the earth, and all mankind;
22of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died.
23Thus He blotted out every living thing that was upon the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky, and they were blotted out from the earth; and only Noah was left, together with those that were with him in the ark.
24The water prevailed upon the earth one hundred and fifty days.

 

[Issachar92]

Now I am sure it would be meaningless to begin this discussion.

have you been caught up in the bible scholars' falsehood of "it was only a local flood"? And evolution, and "higher textual criticism" and all that nonsense. Get outta there. Those guys got no scripture for any of that.

 

[IamWhoIam]

The amount of water to flood the earth up to the high mountain peaks, wouldn't require as much water as one would think.
today the amount of water on earth is quite small compared to the size of earth. Yes today water covers the earth around 70% but that is only on the surface and spread out over the whole earth, during the great flood, water came from inside the earth as well about the same as what covers the earth today, the size of the water ball depicted in the photo is of the current water on the surface. surely this ball of water can very very easily can be spread about locked inside earth, today sciencetist know that there is a whole ocean under the surface of the earth locked in various places within the earth.

 

[Bogadile]

Remember that most of the water could have come from underneath the earth as well:

The fountains of the deep as the Scriptures say. There is also the canopy of water.

 

[IamWhoIam]

Remember that most of the water could have come from underneath the earth as well:

The fountains of the deep as the Scriptures say. There is also the canopy of water.

Indeed brother, in my view I believe about what covers the earth came from within the earth 70% and the remaining 30% was from the canopy of clouds, thus 100% coverage with no visible land.

 

[prove-all]

Who just wants information, its on the web.

So you found web pages that say only local flood happened.

Ok next question then


Could a local flood kill everything under heaven with life?
or was this just a local flood, and the local animals only affected ?
Animals would excape if only local flood would they not?


Why bring animals on the ark to reproduce afterwards then?

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to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven;
and every thing that is in the earth shall die …..... every living substance
that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth


all flesh, wherein is the breath of life?