Is the great biblical flood real or not?

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Sagart

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Amen, it was real because the Word of God says it was real, You either believe the Word of God or you believe the words of men.

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The words of men,

“It was real because the Word of God says it was real.”


The Word of God

Gen. 1:6. And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."
7. So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so.
8. God called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.
9. And God said, "Let the waters under the sky be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so.
10. God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.
11. Then God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees of every kind on earth that bear fruit with the seed in it." And it was so.
12. The earth brought forth vegetation: plants yielding seed of every kind, and trees of every kind bearing fruit with the seed in it. And God saw that it was good.
13. And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.
14. And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years,
15. and let them be lights in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth." And it was so.
16. God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars.
17. God set them in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth,
18. to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.
19. And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.
20. And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the dome of the sky." (NRSV)
 

Sagart

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Can you show any Scriptures that indicates it is not an accurate account of an historical event, or is that merely YOUR opinion, based on facts that you read and hear from scientists?
Gen. 1:6. And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."
7. So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so.

Gen. 7:11. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened.

The “fountains of the great deep” is a reference to ancient Hebrew cosmology in which the earth is flat, covered with a dome, and sitting upon a mass of water below the earth. The “windows of the heavens” is a reference to the same ancient Hebrew cosmology in which the earth is flat and covered with a dome with windows or floodgates in it.

For graphic representations, please see the following,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8duzqEOhw8

A COMMON COSMOLOGY OF THE ANCIENT WORLD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_cosmology

Ancient Hebrew Cosmology

https://pursuingveritas.com/2014/05/14/ancient-hebrew-cosmology/

https://aleteia.org/2016/07/07/when...-the-universe-according-to-the-old-testament/

Bible science? Ancient Hebrew Cosmology - The Reluctant Skeptic
 

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How do you know what most of the 7.3 billion people alive today look at?

Cognitive people learn as they grow older, and their writing styles may consequently change. However, that is NOT what we find in Genesis 1-11. In Genesis 1-11, we find a collection of stories with the characteristics of epic tales, sagas, myths, and legends.
I don't care what those people think. You ignore the fact that archaeology has proven the Bible to be 100% accurate.

Sodom was destroyed by a pyroclastic blast. Jericho's massive inner wall fell outward covering the smooth ramp and outer wall. The city was burned, people killed, and no valuables or grain was taken.

Oops!!! Just as the Bible says happened. Many other facts have been proven including how David and his men invaded Jerusalem.

It is obvious to the casual observer that you are an ignorant atheist windbag spouting gibberish nonsense about the Bible. Why are you on this site. You never rebutted the 5 scientific laws that big bang evolution theory fails. You can run or I will ram that in your face every time I see you post.
 

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Don Batten is one of the 45 men living today who have earned a Ph.D. in some field of science but who, because of their extremely unhealthy obsession with a ridiculous interpretation of Genesis 1-11, insist that the 3,000,000+ men and women who have earned a Ph.D. in some field of science but do not share that extremely unhealthy obsession are “materialistic atheists.” These 45 men know for an absolute fact that their characterization of these 3,000,000+ men and women is maliciously and libelously false, but their obsession has hardened their hearts to such an extent that they are unable to perceive their morally depraved condition.

Don Batten’s formal education is in horticulture as it is applied to agriculture. However, he is not employed as a scientist, but as a business administrator for a creationist organization that shares both his extremist views and his woeful ignorance of both the Bible and science. Because he severed some years ago his relationship with both science and the men and women employed as scientists, and because of his extremely unhealthy obsession with a ridiculous interpretation of Genesis 1-11, he has no comprehension of what either scientists or Christians believe. Indeed, he has become so delusional that he thinks that scientists believe that the universe and the stars in it “magically” came into existence despite “proof” to the contrary. Furthermore, he has become so delusional that he thinks that scientists believe that amino acids “magically” formed proteins that “magically” became alive. Moreover, he has become so delusional that he thinks that scientists believe that the diversity of life “magically” came about even though how it came about is very well understood today by evolutionary biologists. He has even become so delusional that he thinks that scientists believe that human beings magically became cognizant beings with a sense of morality.

However, it is not his woeful ignorance of both the Bible and science that is most troubling, but it is his abandonment of Christian ethics and biblical morality that is most troubling.


When young earth creationism is commingled with the Christian gospel, the Christian gospel is made to look as foolish as young earth creationism. Moreover, being a Christian is not about believing in a ridiculous interpretation of Genesis 1-11; being a Christian is about a personal, life-changing relationship with Christ in which one dies and is then born again as a totally new man in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. (NKJV)
Your atheistic rant is disgusting on this Christian site. Ad hominem attacks are not Christian. You never refuted the 5 scientific laws that the old earth big bang evolution theory violates. Rufute them. You never explained how with millions of years there is still Carbon-14 in diamonds. Science instead of rants!!!

PS: Young earth is consistent with Genesis 1:1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
 
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anyone notice how the earth has so many bodies of water "all over it"?
 

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anyone notice how the earth has so many bodies of water "all over it"?
There is a web site creation.com that is a multinational science based Christian organization. They use that name because of Genesis 1:1. They have scientists there who do research and monitoring of current science in archaeology and other sciences. They write papers about the science that supports the Bible.

For example looking at the geography of the US there is a bowl shape to the northern US and southern Canada that the Grand Canyon empties. The probability is that as the flood receded it left a very large lake. A rain triggered an overflow that created the Grand Canyon. In Washington state Mt St Hellens blew its top and dammed up the main river. It finally overflowed and in one day created what now is called the mini grand canyon. The earth has layers like the big one even though that earth was created by the volcano erupting. They made an article going into detail showing the similarities to both canyons demonstrating the layers of the big one doesn't mean each layer was layered bit by bit over time.
 

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Originally Posted by DiscipleDave


But here is the TRUTH, believe what the KJV says, and you will be fine. It is only when people don't believe what it says that they seek other means to interpret that verse to mean something other than what it says. This can be effectively achieved using the Hebrew and/or Greek method of interpreting Scriptures.


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A lot of people WANT to know what it says but don't understand the archaic language. It's as simple as that. God can't be confined to old usage. Some people find it awkward to get at the truth by struggling with outdated English. THANK GOD for the work of scholars who made up to date language translations.
Parent A, is leaving their children for a while to live on their own, Parent A leaves simple, easy to follow instructions for their children to follow and to obey, easy to understand, easy to read, made exactly for those children.

Parent B, is leaving their children for a while to live on their own, Parent B leaves hard to understand, and difficult instructions for their children to follow and obey. Parent B wants their children to become learned first in order to understand the instructions that they left for them. Parent B wants those children to interpret, study, discect, question the instructions left to them, in order for them to understand the instructions that Parent B left for them.

Tell me. Which of the two parents LOVES their children more?
Parent A left accurate, simple instructions for their children to understand, and obey. So there is not question what Parent A wants of their children
Parent B left accurate, difficult instructions for their children to LEARN and interpret the understanding, So there is much questioning and confusion in what Parent B actually wants them to do.
Parent A wants them to obey the instruction and what they say, period, no intellect required, just do what it says.
Parent B wants them to use their own intellect to interpret the instructions, intellect required. Different levels of intellect in the children produces different interpretations of the instructions given by Parent B

Scriptures was written in a very simple and easy way to understand. Leave it to this generation and their intellect to take something that is simple and cause confusion, strife, and the different interpretations of the Word of God, based solely on their own intellect.

God is not the author of confusion, satan is. For 400 years the KJV was the ONLY Word of God, and many of our Brothers and Sisters were SAVED via the KJV. Get into the Last Days, and since satan can't get rid of the KJV, for he has tried to do so, he does the next best thing, Get people to stop reading it, create hundreds of different versions of the Bible, cause confusion among Christians to which one to read. Now if a person does not like a particular version, thats OK, just search for another version that you will agree with and use that, of coarse if you find something in that version that you don't agree with, well simply search for another version, there are hundreds of different versions, satan is happy, as long as you are not reading the Word of God, the KJV.

God made the KJV simple and easy to understand, for those who read it and do not put it down, but continues to read it and ask God for understanding, then God opens up the understanding of that person, and then they will also tell you that the KJV is easy to understand. But if a person picks up the KJV and reads some of it, and thinks this is way to confusing, what do they immediately do (NOT go to God in prayer) but they search out a version created by the last days generation that is going to be easier for them to understand. And then when they find that version, they call it the Word of God.

Our Father made His instruction easy to understand, because He Loves us that Much, He is like unto Parent A above. It is not, nor ever has been His desire that people become educated, learned, or scholars, in order to come to the understanding of His simple understand of His Word.

People seek education, scholars advice, commentaries, other books, other versions to try to understand Scriptures.
God wants us to pray to Him and seek the Holy Spirit of TRUTH to supernaturally understand Scriptures. But this generation has no patience to wait on God to reveal anything to them, so they immediately seek OTHER means to learn Scriptures.
Interpretations belong to God, NOT to men.
Men add their own interpretations to the Scriptures because God has not revealed that TRUTH to them, So they go about to learn this TRUTH or that TRUTH via their own means, their own studies, their own interpretations. Is it any wander there are hundreds of different denominations of the Christian Faith? Any wander there are hundreds of different versions of the Word of God?
Scriptures over and over again plainly teach "Be of one mind", and "Think the same things", and "Do not be divided" Yet look at this generation, We are not ONE mind, but we have hundreds of different minds. We do not think the same things, we think hundreds of different things. We do not stand as one body, but we are divided. If a body has no eyes it stumbles about. If a body has no arms it can't hug anyone. If a body has no legs it can't walk anywhere. Are there eyes in the Church body? Yes. Are there arms in the Church body? Yes. Are there legs in the Church today? Yes. But are they ONE BODY? that answer is no.
satan knows that if we actually became ONE body, and worked as ONE body, and all had ONE mind, and all thought the same thing, the Church body would be unstoppable. So satan causes division. The arms staying to themselves just being arms without a body. The eyes staying to themselves, just being eyes without a body. The legs staying to themselves, just being legs without a body.
satan has got the Body so divided up it is pathetic. And God set up the Church exactly as God wanted it set up.

1Co_12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Where is this Church today? Do those who speak in tongues not all congregate among themselves? Where are those with the Gift of Healing? Where are those who perform miracles in the Church? And God forbid if someone says they are prophet, which God set up to be Second in the Church that God has set up. But no, not this generation a person who says they are a prophet will be stoned to death, falsely accused as a "self proclaimed prophet" even if that prophet plainly says God made him a prophet, Which he is NOT self proclaiming to be one, but is testifying what God made him. There is a difference. Anyways. The Church Body, Where are the prophets? satan has decieved the last days generation into believing there are no prophets any more. Therefore the Church of the last days generation has no prophets in it. How is that Church Body whole? It isn't, the Church body today is sick, diseased with the influence of satan. Divided and many different minds, many different versions of the Bible, many different beliefs, many different doctrines.
Oh how i wish i would depart this wicked generation, my soul is vexed daily because of the lack of Love in this world. Only if He would take my life tonight, why wait, right now.
i am still here, but it is better that i remain here to reveal to you what God has revealed to me. And therefore i am still here.

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Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Greek calls it a dome, not Hebrew.

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This is Hebrew:

ויאמר אלהים יהי רקיע בתוך המים ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים׃
ויעשׂ אלהים את־הרקיע ויבדל בין המים אשׁר מתחת לרקיע ובין המים אשׁר מעל לרקיע ויהי־כן׃​

This is English:

Gen. 1:6. And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”
7. So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. (NRSV)

This is Greek:

Matt. 1:6. Ἰεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Δαυὶδ τὸν βασιλέα.
Δαυὶδ δὲ ἐγέννησεν τὸν Σολομῶνα ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Οὐρίου, (NA28)

You are still not understanding what i am saying.

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

If you take the word firmament to the Hebrew translation you get translations of this verse saying "Expanse".
If you take the word firmament to the Greek translation you get translations of this verse saying "Dome"
(So this generation can pick and choose which version they will believe and which one they will discard.)

You made a comment that "Dome" comes from Hebrew translation, but it does not, "Dome" comes from the Greek translation of the word firmament. That is all i was pointing out to you.


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Gen. 1:6. And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."
7. So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so.

Gen. 7:11. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened.

The “fountains of the great deep” is a reference to ancient Hebrew cosmology in which the earth is flat, covered with a dome, and sitting upon a mass of water below the earth.
So you are testifying that the ancient Hebrew cosmology was nothing but hogwash, because the world has never been flat. So then it is logical that anyone who puts their faith and belief into the ancient Hebrew cosmology is equally full of hogwash, correct? Surely you do not put stock in the ancient Hebrew cosmology when it has been proven beyond a doubt that it is incorrect. Why would you put stock into a false doctrine?

The “windows of the heavens” is a reference to the same ancient Hebrew cosmology in which the earth is flat and covered with a dome with windows or floodgates in it.
Oh, so it does indeed seem that you put stock into a doctrine that is hogwash. Seriously. lol.

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Seems most Christians want to interpret Genesis 7:19-20 as meaning the, must be sea levels, rose so high that they were 15 cubits higher than the world's tallest mountain.

Some computations say the amount of water needed for that is at least 2 times more water than exists in all the oceans.

Where did all that extra water come from? And then, how did it evaporate so quickly?
 

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Seems most Christians want to interpret Genesis 7:19-20 as meaning the, must be sea levels, rose so high that they were 15 cubits higher than the world's tallest mountain.

Some computations say the amount of water needed for that is at least 2 times more water than exists in all the oceans.

Where did all that extra water come from? And then, how did it evaporate so quickly?
This criticism makes the unwarranted assumption that the mountains were then as they are today... up to 29,028 feet at the highest point. I don't know of anyone who espouses that idea and also believes in a recent flood. Rather, most of us believe that the mountains were raised up either during or shortly after the flood. It is possible (to me, very likely) that much of the tectonic shifting alleged to have taken millions of years actually took place in a few months. So, no extra water is needed.

There are many good lectures available on YouTube and at creation web sites that discuss this very issue.
 
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This criticism makes the unwarranted assumption that the mountains were then as they are today... up to 29,028 feet at the highest point. I don't know of anyone who espouses that idea and also believes in a recent flood. Rather, most of us believe that the mountains were raised up either during or shortly after the flood. It is possible (to me, very likely) that much of the tectonic shifting alleged to have taken millions of years actually took place in a few months. So, no extra water is needed.

There are many good lectures available on YouTube and at creation web sites that discuss this very issue.
But...

Genesis 8:13 says the waters were dried up.

You sound like you're invoking the "God said let the dry land appear" verse from Genesis 1:9

I'm not aware of any new mountain ranges formed in the time of man. Are you?
 

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But...

Genesis 8:13 says the waters were dried up.

You sound like you're invoking the "God said let the dry land appear" verse from Genesis 1:9

I'm not aware of any new mountain ranges formed in the time of man. Are you?
Actually, I'm invoking Psalm 104:5-9, and specifically verse 8: "The mountains rose; the valleys sank down to the place which You established for them."

There could have been massive geological events happening in places far removed from the mountains of Ararat, and humans would not have known directly about them. There were only eight humans alive at that point.
 
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Actually, I'm invoking Psalm 104:5-9, and specifically verse 8: "The mountains rose; the valleys sank down to the place which You established for them."

There could have been massive geological events happening in places far removed from the mountains of Ararat, and humans would not have known directly about them. There were only eight humans alive at that point.
I just read Psalm chapter 104.

Isn't that talking about the creation of the world, not the flood?

Oh yeah right. Only 8 humans. All the ethnicities of the world from this family of 8. Really?
 

Dino246

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I just read Psalm chapter 104.

Isn't that talking about the creation of the world, not the flood?
There's no reason apparent in the text why Psalm 104 can't be talking about the flood.

Oh yeah right. Only 8 humans. All the ethnicities of the world from this family of 8. Really?
Yes, really. You're free to disregard it, but that is what the Scripture teaches. The differences between ethnic groups are quite minor and can easily be explained with common ancestors who had greater genetic diversity.
 

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Parent A, is leaving their children for a while to live on their own, Parent A leaves simple, easy to follow instructions for their children to follow and to obey, easy to understand, easy to read, made exactly for those children.

Parent B, is leaving their children for a while to live on their own, Parent B leaves hard to understand, and difficult instructions for their children to follow and obey. Parent B wants their children to become learned first in order to understand the instructions that they left for them. Parent B wants those children to interpret, study, discect, question the instructions left to them, in order for them to understand the instructions that Parent B left for them.

Tell me. Which of the two parents LOVES their children more?
Parent A left accurate, simple instructions for their children to understand, and obey. So there is not question what Parent A wants of their children
Parent B left accurate, difficult instructions for their children to LEARN and interpret the understanding, So there is much questioning and confusion in what Parent B actually wants them to do.
Parent A wants them to obey the instruction and what they say, period, no intellect required, just do what it says.
Parent B wants them to use their own intellect to interpret the instructions, intellect required. Different levels of intellect in the children produces different interpretations of the instructions given by Parent B

Scriptures was written in a very simple and easy way to understand. Leave it to this generation and their intellect to take something that is simple and cause confusion, strife, and the different interpretations of the Word of God, based solely on their own intellect.

God is not the author of confusion, satan is. For 400 years the KJV was the ONLY Word of God, and many of our Brothers and Sisters were SAVED via the KJV. Get into the Last Days, and since satan can't get rid of the KJV, for he has tried to do so, he does the next best thing, Get people to stop reading it, create hundreds of different versions of the Bible, cause confusion among Christians to which one to read. Now if a person does not like a particular version, thats OK, just search for another version that you will agree with and use that, of coarse if you find something in that version that you don't agree with, well simply search for another version, there are hundreds of different versions, satan is happy, as long as you are not reading the Word of God, the KJV.

God made the KJV simple and easy to understand, for those who read it and do not put it down, but continues to read it and ask God for understanding, then God opens up the understanding of that person, and then they will also tell you that the KJV is easy to understand. But if a person picks up the KJV and reads some of it, and thinks this is way to confusing, what do they immediately do (NOT go to God in prayer) but they search out a version created by the last days generation that is going to be easier for them to understand. And then when they find that version, they call it the Word of God.

Our Father made His instruction easy to understand, because He Loves us that Much, He is like unto Parent A above. It is not, nor ever has been His desire that people become educated, learned, or scholars, in order to come to the understanding of His simple understand of His Word.

People seek education, scholars advice, commentaries, other books, other versions to try to understand Scriptures.
God wants us to pray to Him and seek the Holy Spirit of TRUTH to supernaturally understand Scriptures. But this generation has no patience to wait on God to reveal anything to them, so they immediately seek OTHER means to learn Scriptures.
Interpretations belong to God, NOT to men.
Men add their own interpretations to the Scriptures because God has not revealed that TRUTH to them, So they go about to learn this TRUTH or that TRUTH via their own means, their own studies, their own interpretations. Is it any wander there are hundreds of different denominations of the Christian Faith? Any wander there are hundreds of different versions of the Word of God?
Scriptures over and over again plainly teach "Be of one mind", and "Think the same things", and "Do not be divided" Yet look at this generation, We are not ONE mind, but we have hundreds of different minds. We do not think the same things, we think hundreds of different things. We do not stand as one body, but we are divided. If a body has no eyes it stumbles about. If a body has no arms it can't hug anyone. If a body has no legs it can't walk anywhere. Are there eyes in the Church body? Yes. Are there arms in the Church body? Yes. Are there legs in the Church today? Yes. But are they ONE BODY? that answer is no.
satan knows that if we actually became ONE body, and worked as ONE body, and all had ONE mind, and all thought the same thing, the Church body would be unstoppable. So satan causes division. The arms staying to themselves just being arms without a body. The eyes staying to themselves, just being eyes without a body. The legs staying to themselves, just being legs without a body.
satan has got the Body so divided up it is pathetic. And God set up the Church exactly as God wanted it set up.

1Co_12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Where is this Church today? Do those who speak in tongues not all congregate among themselves? Where are those with the Gift of Healing? Where are those who perform miracles in the Church? And God forbid if someone says they are prophet, which God set up to be Second in the Church that God has set up. But no, not this generation a person who says they are a prophet will be stoned to death, falsely accused as a "self proclaimed prophet" even if that prophet plainly says God made him a prophet, Which he is NOT self proclaiming to be one, but is testifying what God made him. There is a difference. Anyways. The Church Body, Where are the prophets? satan has decieved the last days generation into believing there are no prophets any more. Therefore the Church of the last days generation has no prophets in it. How is that Church Body whole? It isn't, the Church body today is sick, diseased with the influence of satan. Divided and many different minds, many different versions of the Bible, many different beliefs, many different doctrines.
Oh how i wish i would depart this wicked generation, my soul is vexed daily because of the lack of Love in this world. Only if He would take my life tonight, why wait, right now.
i am still here, but it is better that i remain here to reveal to you what God has revealed to me. And therefore i am still here.

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DiscipleDave
Another long post. I read the first part of it. That human analogy doesn't fit all of the Bible. Eschatology is a very hard to understand part of the Bible. Symbols galore that have multiple possible meanings. Of course I have read and listened to those who predicted things explaining what the symbols mean. ALL FAILED!!!

Any one claiming they know them has been drinking too much kool-aid. I mean you DiscipleDave!!!
 
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There's no reason apparent in the text why Psalm 104 can't be talking about the flood.

Yes, really. You're free to disregard it, but that is what the Scripture teaches. The differences between ethnic groups are quite minor and can easily be explained with common ancestors who had greater genetic diversity.
I thought Psalms were meant to be positive and uplifting, like creating something, instead of destroying it.

So there were 3 sons of the same parents...

2 parents...

And then 3 other women married to the 3 sons...

I guess Noah was European, his wife African, and their sons must have married an Asian, an Indian, and an Inuit.

And then after the flood the peoples born of these 8 star seeds all decided to divide themselves ethnically by continents separated by thousands of miles of sea.

And then they must have forgot how they traveled so far from their native lands.

Until one day, Christopher Columbus had a vision of a past life, and sought out to unify all the ethnicities once again.

Hmmm...
 

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True science results in TECHNOLOGY, not stories about lands before time as depicted in propaganda cartoons obviously for children.

Truth is, there isn't any such thing as creation science, nor any science of the past.

Have you not noticed how completely lacking in science the myths of modern science are?

Let me give you a simple truth that you probably never heard of.

Are you ready?

There exists no mechanism by which to lay down well sorted layers of materials on a global scale except a deep global flood.

Now what do the phony myth making scientists say about those banded layers? They claim that the well sorted layers everyone can plainly see from mountain top to beneath valley floors were laid down over eons of time. But, they don't tell you that long spans of time can't produce well sorted materials.
 

Joseppi

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And where do you think mountains came from?
Let me guess....you think they magically rose up out of the ground over eons of time?
Magic underground mountain making forces.

It never occurs to you science minded readers that there exists no mountain making underground force.

The Holy Bible tells you scoffers would show up at the time of the end. And so hete they are. But surely you readers know that scoffers are not scientific thinkers.
 

trofimus

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And where do you think mountains came from?
Let me guess....you think they magically rose up out of the ground
Not "magically", but naturally by the processes during the formation of our planet.