Is the great biblical flood real or not?

[Zen]

Google - "local flood Bible proof"

Google is part of the anti-Christ system.

I'd much rather consult the bible;

Genesis 7:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
[SUP]22 [/SUP]All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

 

[Muzungu256]

Google is part of the anti-Christ system.

you google and its the devil. i knew the devil would put all those christian websites and biblegateway and biblehub etc. available by google searches. i just knew it u see....... its the illuminati. the most famous "secretsociety"

 

[Locutus]

The googley spirit will lead you in all things...

 

[WebersHome]

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● Gen 7:19-20 . .When the waters had swelled much more upon the earth,
all the highest mountains everywhere under the sky were covered. Fifteen
cubits higher did the waters swell, as the mountains were covered.

NOTE: If we take the liberty to arbitrarily assume that the cubit of Noah's
day was 18 inches; then fifteen of them would equal 22½ feet.

Q: Is it possible that the Flood was local rather than global?

A: Well; the problem with that theory is: the waters breeched the highest
mountains by 22½ feet. So then, if perchance Noah lived in a geographic
basin, the waters would have overflowed the mountains surrounding him
and kept on going.

But the water would start spilling past Noah's area long before it breeched
the tops of the highest mountains surrounding him because mountain ranges
aren't shaped smooth, level, and even like the rim of a domestic bath tub.
No; they're very irregular and consist of high points and low points; viz:
peaks, valleys, canyons, saddles, and passes.

Thus mountain ranges make poor bath tubs because you would lose water
through the low points before it even had a chance to fill to the peaks. In
point of fact, were the sides of your bathtub shaped like a mountain range;
you could never fill it. And in trying to; just end up with water all over the
floor.

22½ feet may not seem like a lot of water but when you consider the
diameter of the Earth, that is an enormous amount when its above the
highest mountains. How high were the highest mountains in Noah's day?
Nobody really knows. But just supposing the tallest at that time was about
equal to California's Mount Laguna east of San Diego; viz: 5,738 feet above
sea level-- about 1.1 miles. Adding 22½ feet to that comes out to
approximately 5,761 feet.

The amount of rain it would take to accumulate that much water in only
forty days would be something like 6 global feet of depth per hour.

To put that in perspective: the lobby of the Empire State Building in New
York city is approximately 47 feet above sea level. At 6 feet per hour, the
lobby would be under water in less than eight hours. The whole building,
lightening rod and all; would be under water in just a little over ten days.
The new One World Trade Center would be gone in about thirteen.

Q: From whence did all that water come?

A: The atmosphere alone holds about 2,900 cubic miles of water at any
given time; with the balance of Earth's 340 million cubic miles of water
stored in oceans, rivers, lakes, ice caps, glaciers, permafrost, and the
ground. Relatively little ground water is stored in subterranean voids. Most
of it is soaked in tiny pores and cracks in soil and rocks.

Almost all ground water resides within five to ten miles of the surface. Water
below that depth is chemically bound in the rocks and minerals and not
readily accessible; but can be released as a result of geologic processes such
as volcanism. But for the Flood, water above and beyond the earth's
indigenous sources was necessary.

There's an abundance of water out in the cosmos. In an article I found on
the internet dated July 22, 2011; astronomers have discovered the largest
and oldest mass of water ever detected in the universe-- a gigantic cloud
harboring 140 trillion times more water than all of Earth's oceans combined.
Well; I'm pretty sure that's a sufficient quantity of water to inundate the
earth to a depth required for the Flood.

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[7seasrekeyed]

have you been caught up in the bible scholars' falsehood of "it was only a local flood"? And evolution, and "higher textual criticism" and all that nonsense. Get outta there. Those guys got no scripture for any of that.

you may know this, but Preterists refute a world wide flood

but of course they discard much of the Bible as allegory, so I guess that is par for the course

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Check this site out:

https://www.beyondcreationscience.com/index.php?pr=Home_Page

if I would tell you who one of the authors actually are, you would spit gold coins

I don't want to give away the black sheep in the family though, who has managed to seduce a few others

very big family

hilarious

 

[7seasrekeyed]

...just proves there's a website for just about anything anyone wants to believe.

Personally, I believe the Bible states the flood was global, and that we're all descendants of Noah.

sometimes people are so smart, they get 'smarter' than God

 

[IamWhoIam]

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● Gen 7:19-20 . .When the waters had swelled much more upon the earth,
all the highest mountains everywhere under the sky were covered. Fifteen
cubits higher did the waters swell, as the mountains were covered.

NOTE: If we take the liberty to arbitrarily assume that the cubit of Noah's
day was 18 inches; then fifteen of them would equal 22½ feet.

Q: Is it possible that the Flood was local rather than global?

A: Well; the problem with that theory is: the waters breeched the highest
mountains by 22½ feet. So then, if perchance Noah lived in a geographic
basin, the waters would have overflowed the mountains surrounding him
and kept on going.

But the water would start spilling past Noah's area long before it breeched
the tops of the highest mountains surrounding him because mountain ranges
aren't shaped smooth, level, and even like the rim of a domestic bath tub.
No; they're very irregular and consist of high points and low points; viz:
peaks, valleys, canyons, saddles, and passes.

Thus mountain ranges make poor bath tubs because you would lose water
through the low points before it even had a chance to fill to the peaks. In
point of fact, were the sides of your bathtub shaped like a mountain range;
you could never fill it. And in trying to; just end up with water all over the
floor.

22½ feet may not seem like a lot of water but when you consider the
diameter of the Earth, that is an enormous amount when its above the
highest mountains. How high were the highest mountains in Noah's day?
Nobody really knows. But just supposing the tallest at that time was about
equal to California's Mount Laguna east of San Diego; viz: 5,738 feet above
sea level-- about 1.1 miles. Adding 22½ feet to that comes out to
approximately 5,761 feet.

The amount of rain it would take to accumulate that much water in only
forty days would be something like 6 global feet of depth per hour.

To put that in perspective: the lobby of the Empire State Building in New
York city is approximately 47 feet above sea level. At 6 feet per hour, the
lobby would be under water in less than eight hours. The whole building,
lightening rod and all; would be under water in just a little over ten days.
The new One World Trade Center would be gone in about thirteen.

Q: From whence did all that water come?

A: The atmosphere alone holds about 2,900 cubic miles of water at any
given time; with the balance of Earth's 340 million cubic miles of water
stored in oceans, rivers, lakes, ice caps, glaciers, permafrost, and the
ground. Relatively little ground water is stored in subterranean voids. Most
of it is soaked in tiny pores and cracks in soil and rocks.

Almost all ground water resides within five to ten miles of the surface. Water
below that depth is chemically bound in the rocks and minerals and not
readily accessible; but can be released as a result of geologic processes such
as volcanism. But for the Flood, water above and beyond the earth's
indigenous sources was necessary.

There's an abundance of water out in the cosmos. In an article I found on
the internet dated July 22, 2011; astronomers have discovered the largest
and oldest mass of water ever detected in the universe-- a gigantic cloud
harboring 140 trillion times more water than all of Earth's oceans combined.
Well; I'm pretty sure that's a sufficient quantity of water to inundate the
earth to a depth required for the Flood.

/

Well that might seem like a lot of water to us micro humans, but to the earth all the water added up is a mere puddle to the earth size.

 

[WebersHome]

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Well that might seem like a lot of water to us micro humans, but to the
earth all the water added up is a mere puddle to the earth size.

An amount of water equal to 140 trillion times more water than all of Earth's
oceans combined is by no stretch of the imagination a mere puddle relative
to the size of the earth.

FYI: A trillion is equal to a thousand billions, which is a 1 with twelve zeros
and looks like this:

1,000,000,000,000

To help put that in perspective: the thickness of US currency is roughly
.0043 inch. A hundred and forty trillion of them would stack up to a pile of
bills 4,300,000,000 inches tall, equal to about 358,333,333 feet, which is
something like 67,866 statute miles; enough to circle the earth's equator
nearly 2.73 times.

The length of US Currency is about 6.14 inches. So then, were those same
140 trillion bills laid end to end they would circle the equator 544,838 times.

Laid end to end out into space, those 140 trillion bills would equal roughly 71
round trips to the Sun and back.

The speed of light in a vacuum is approximately 186,282 miles per second.
At that speed, it would take light roughly 20 hours to traverse the distance
stretched out by 140 trillion bills laid end to end.

/

 

[IamWhoIam]

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An amount of water equal to 140 trillion times more water than all of Earth's
oceans combined is by no stretch of the imagination a mere puddle relative
to the size of the earth.

FYI: A trillion is equal to a thousand billions, which is a 1 with twelve zeros
and looks like this:

1,000,000,000,000

To help put that in perspective: the thickness of US currency is roughly
.0043 inch. A hundred and forty trillion of them would stack up to a pile of
bills 4,300,000,000 inches tall, equal to about 358,333,333 feet, which is
something like 67,866 statute miles; enough to circle the earth's equator
nearly 2.73 times.

The length of US Currency is about 6.14 inches. So then, were those same
140 trillion bills laid end to end they would circle the equator 544,838 times.

Laid end to end out into space, those 140 trillion bills would equal roughly 71
round trips to the Sun and back.

The speed of light in a vacuum is approximately 186,282 miles per second.
At that speed, it would take light roughly 20 hours to traverse the distance
stretched out by 140 trillion bills laid end to end.

/

O yes indeed my friend it is just a puddle, to the center of the earth is roughly 3,958 miles just to the center of the earth, half way through the earth, now the deepest part of the ocean and that is in a tench is a mere 7 miles.

as I posted before here it is again the ratio of the amount of water on the earth to the size of our earth and as well the amount of water on a moon called Europeia, the water on Europeia is just tad bit more then the amount on earth, though earth is much bigger than Europeia.

 

[IamWhoIam]

Like numbers here's some.

Earth's mass is 6.6 sextillion tons (5.9722 x 10[SUP]24[/SUP] kilograms). It volume is about 260 billion cubic miles (1 trillion cubic kilometers). The total surface area of Earth is about 197 million square miles (510 million square km). About 71 percent is covered by water and 29 percent by land.

 

[Zen]

Like numbers here's some.

Earth's mass is 6.6 sextillion tons (5.9722 x 10[SUP]24[/SUP] kilograms). It volume is about 260 billion cubic miles (1 trillion cubic kilometers). The total surface area of Earth is about 197 million square miles (510 million square km). About 71 percent is covered by water and 29 percent by land.

A world flood doesn't support a globe earth.

 

[Magenta]

A world flood doesn't support a globe earth.

Why not? Gravity operates centrifugally.

Otherwise people in the southern hemispheres would have long fallen off...

 

[IamWhoIam]

A world flood doesn't support a globe earth.

What she said,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A world flood doesn't support a globe earth.

Oh? Do tell!

I feel the opposite, a world wide flood PROVES a globe earth

 

[Magenta]

Thank you for the rep, IamWhoIam

 

[Zen]

A globe Earth supports a wider deception of anti-Christ beliefs.

Until God gives you this understanding, arguing about it is pointless.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

A globe Earth supports a wider deception of anti-Christ beliefs.

Until God gives you this understanding, arguing about it is pointless.

so your not going to share why you believe something, Just say we would not understand it?

Wow. just wow. and your here why?

 

[Magenta]

A globe Earth supports a wider deception of anti-Christ beliefs.

What does the shape of the Earth have to do with the work of Christ on the cross?

 

[Zen]

What does the shape of the Earth have to do with the work of Christ on the cross?

A globe Earth is part of a larger deception wherein people are told that they evolved from rocks over a long period of time and that they are nothing more than collections of cells governed by neural impulses. The heliocentric model says that we are on a flying rock no more special than a single grain of sand on a beach and that the existence of other life in the "universe" is statistically inevitable which also contradicts the word of God.

This is basically an alternate reality to explain away our reason for being here and the work of God, it's anti-God and anti-Christ. A system which denies the existence of God cannot be impartial on the subject of Christ, ergo it cannot support the existence of Jesus Christ and is anti-Christ, it is inherently an atheist concept.

A flat Earth model supports the possibility of a firmament of water from above, and a large amount of water below as described in the bible where as the heliocentric global Earth model doesn't because it says we are surrounded by empty space floating among countless giant balls of burning gas.

They are really opposite concepts; one is stationary, vast, immovable, wonderful and intentional. The other is a meaningless and Godless mess of an alternative explanation, no more believable than science fiction.

Was your ancestor a rock that changed in to bacteria when it climbed out of a giant pool of soup, or was he a person called Adam?