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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Of course. One cannot honestly read the Scriptures in context and not be one.
    Except for those who do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7seasrekeyed View Post
    some people will have their Christmas gifts all sorted out

    one stop shopping

    https://www.missionalwear.com/calvinist
    Well I could do without the Calvin and Luther bling . I tend to be on the restrained side of the Reformed folks . Don’t mind the books or the electronic media the rest well humm not sure what to think .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellsworth1943 View Post
    II Peter 3:9
    John 3:16
    Wait a minute, are those two verses in my bible? Hmmph?




    Ye blokes act as if we haven't came across those two verses.

    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    William Cranmer

    "For we love not God first, to compel Him to love again; but He loved us first, and gave His Son for us, that we might see love and love again."

    William Tyndale

    “Providence is wiser than you, and you may be confident it has suited all things better to your eternal good than you could do had you been left to your own option.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laish View Post
    Both Calvinism and Lutheran were names that opponents of the two men’s theological beliefs concerning scripture.
    Note neither guy had a original bone in their bodies both used scripture and referenced early church fathers in their
    publications.
    My opinion The Lord used men like these two to bring us out of the RCC at one of its highest times of heresy
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    There I fixed it for ya . Yea I can’t spell or put a sentence together.lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Thanks for coming out in the open as being against proper contextual interpretation in favor of tradition.
    They will never own up to it, but they proclaim a powerless cross to those who die lost. They believe the Christ died for everybody w/o exception; even those who will never be confronted by a missionary, neither read a bible or heard the gospel. Now, those who died lost, they died lost because they failed to believe. Both sides agree with this. However, if two lost ppl are witnessed to and one believes, the reason why one did believe, was because God had opened their heart via divine regeneration, which in turn, imparts faith and repentance to that person, and they exercise those two gifts and are saved. The reason why the other was not saved, was God has left them in their fallen state, and their wicked heart precluded them from believing what they heard concerning the gospel.

    The reason why I say they proclaim a powerless cross is because the cross, in and of itself, won't save them. The Christ died for all, but only those who do their part are saved. So, it is the cross + what they did that saved them.

    Those who died lost, the cross could not save them. Why? They did not hold up to their end of the deal.
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    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    William Cranmer

    "For we love not God first, to compel Him to love again; but He loved us first, and gave His Son for us, that we might see love and love again."

    William Tyndale

    “Providence is wiser than you, and you may be confident it has suited all things better to your eternal good than you could do had you been left to your own option.”

    John Flavel

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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Because Calvinist Movie will probably end up being discussed like a BDF topic. It will make a few a little angry because their fragile theology will be challenged and refuted, even if only via the trailers:



    For the record, I've yet to watch the movie, but have ordered it, and, LORD willing it should arrive this weekend and we will be able to see it.
    I want to hear from you- your ideas, your thoughts, your bible study conclusions. Anyone can go to YouTube if they want to watch a video about a specific topic, but this is a discussion- not a movie theater. Such things like pictures and videos should be used as reference- not the main discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7seasrekeyed View Post
    git yer John Calvin pint glass for just $14.00.




    sometimes we can idolize without even realising.. it is one of those laugh or cry moments..

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveme1 View Post
    sometimes we can idolize without even realising.. it is one of those laugh or cry moments..
    No one is idolizing Calvin by having a glass with Calvin's face on it. It's no different in those Jesus portraits draped in churches worldwide. That's no more the Christ than I am, but those portraits have zero business inside a church building. 2nd commandment?
    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    William Cranmer

    "For we love not God first, to compel Him to love again; but He loved us first, and gave His Son for us, that we might see love and love again."

    William Tyndale

    “Providence is wiser than you, and you may be confident it has suited all things better to your eternal good than you could do had you been left to your own option.”

    John Flavel

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    Quote Originally Posted by He_reigns View Post
    Is this thread about the movie are just another slick cover up to create another Calvinist elect are smarter and better than the rest of christians thread?
    Well one has to be *special* to be elected for salvation. So that should include smarter and better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneFaith View Post
    I want to hear from you- your ideas, your thoughts, your bible study conclusions. Anyone can go to YouTube if they want to watch a video about a specific topic, but this is a discussion- not a movie theater. Such things like pictures and videos should be used as reference- not the main discussion.
    Don't tell me how to post a thread, ok? Thanks.

    This thread is to give out information concerning the movie affording people an opportunity to view it.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    Well one has to be *special* to be elected for salvation. So that should include smarter and better.
    It's not called *special* in Scripture, it's called election and God does it based upon nothing in the ones He chooses.

    Now your little group is so *special*, you all came to God even when Christ declared no man is able, yet you did anyhow out of your own love and specialness to prove to God you're not robots and did it out of sincerity. How *special* you are above all others.
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    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marano View Post
    Hopefuly I can watch it somehow.
    Are you able to order it where you live?
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwel View Post
    Except for those who do.: )
    I respectfully disagree due to the fact these read Scripture via tradition and don't employ proper contextual exegesis, which is witnessed on here and elsewhere perpetually.

    I've yet to witness, after many watched debates, podcasts, read books, any one person who is anti-cal come close to refuting the Doctrines of Grace or TULIP with contextually exegeted Scripture.

    Typically those who set out to refute merely run to another text of Scripture in lieu of giving proper exegesis of the one being debated. Then there is also the philosophical and sentimental arguments that are offered instead of Scripture. The Scriptures these employ are taken out of proper context and are generally 2 Peter 3:9, 1 Timothy 2:4 and the big whammy, John 3:16. Oh, also Matthew 22:37.
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    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignGrace View Post
    No one is idolizing Calvin by having a glass with Calvin's face on it. It's no different in those Jesus portraits draped in churches worldwide. That's no more the Christ than I am, but those portraits have zero business inside a church building. 2nd commandment?

    Shall we start a protest? If you read what I wrote.. I said we.. I agree with you about those portraits and statues alike.. but these men on the glasses are being idolised in ignorance by their fans while enjoying a beverage.. it plays on human nature and that we find everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveme1 View Post
    Shall we start a protest? If you read what I wrote.. I said we.. I agree with you about those portraits and statues alike.. but these men on the glasses are being idolised in ignorance by their fans while enjoying a beverage.. it plays on human nature and that we find everywhere.
    I hardly think buying a glass with John Calvin's mug on a glass equates idolization. Respect, yes. Idolizing, no.
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    William Tyndale

    “Providence is wiser than you, and you may be confident it has suited all things better to your eternal good than you could do had you been left to your own option.”

    John Flavel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laish View Post
    Well I could do without the Calvin and Luther bling . I tend to be on the restrained side of the Reformed folks . Don’t mind the books or the electronic media the rest well humm not sure what to think .
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    I'm not sure the idea is to think

    the idea seems to be 'buy buy buy'

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignGrace View Post
    No one is idolizing Calvin by having a glass with Calvin's face on it. It's no different in those Jesus portraits draped in churches worldwide. That's no more the Christ than I am, but those portraits have zero business inside a church building. 2nd commandment?

    I'm not into religious art by any means

    but you find no difference between hanging an image of Jesus (even though it prob never looks like him) and hanging an image of Calvin?



    okay

    if you say so

    but I agree on hanging either one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehemiah6 View Post
    Well one has to be *special* to be elected for salvation. So that should include smarter and better.

    I'm thinking dumber and dumber

    but that could just be me cause I am a bit of an upstart anyway LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignGrace View Post
    I hardly think buying a glass with John Calvin's mug on a glass equates idolization. Respect, yes. Idolizing, no.

    I can hear Calvin now:

    'I can't get no respect!'

    snicker
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