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Hi Elisworth, nice to meet you don't think we've spoke before.
I don't accomplish anything, neither does anyone. God does. My accomplishment is being allowed by grace to spread the good news. If it takes root, that is not my doing that is the Holy Spirit. As I say all men and women need to hear the good news, and all men and woman have a real, a very real choice to make regarding that.
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Here's one for the Preacher,
Spurgeon's Quotes:
Those particularly on Calvinism vs Arminianism and the Doctrines of Grace
"George Whitefield said, "We are all born Arminians." It is grace that turns us into Calvinists." (Sermons, Vol. 2, p. 124)
On Irresistible Grace:
I believe that Christ came into the world not to put men into a salvable state, but into a saved state. Not to put them where they could save themselves, but to do the work in them and for them, from first to last. If I did not believe that there was might going forth with the word of Jesus which makes men willing, and which turns them from the error of their ways by the mighty, overwhelming, constraining force of divine influence, I should cease to glory in the cross of Christ. (Sermons, Vol. 3, p. 34)
Attribute: Spurgeon's Quotes |The Reformed Reader
Spurgeon's Quotes:
Those particularly on Calvinism vs Arminianism and the Doctrines of Grace
"George Whitefield said, "We are all born Arminians." It is grace that turns us into Calvinists." (Sermons, Vol. 2, p. 124)
On Irresistible Grace:
I believe that Christ came into the world not to put men into a salvable state, but into a saved state. Not to put them where they could save themselves, but to do the work in them and for them, from first to last. If I did not believe that there was might going forth with the word of Jesus which makes men willing, and which turns them from the error of their ways by the mighty, overwhelming, constraining force of divine influence, I should cease to glory in the cross of Christ. (Sermons, Vol. 3, p. 34)
Attribute: Spurgeon's Quotes |The Reformed Reader
Come on now. John Calvin oversaw, IIRC, 300 missionaries to France. William Carrey moved to India and witnessed for 7 years before having his first convert to Christianity. He also lost a wife, and I think, two kids to illness.
We have had three churches that are reformed come to my area as missionaries and they are as missionary as they come. I can give you their websites in a PM if you wish to read what they believe.
A solid Calvinist is a Missionary Calvinist.
We have had three churches that are reformed come to my area as missionaries and they are as missionary as they come. I can give you their websites in a PM if you wish to read what they believe.
A solid Calvinist is a Missionary Calvinist.
Good solid Calvinists have always been very missions-focused, and very evangelical.
Now, I'm not sure why, and I'm not at all convinced it's philosophically consistent.
In fact, I've heard reformed preachers say, "I don't have a good explanation for why I must evangelize if all the people who are getting saved are completely predestined to get saved regardless of what I do... but God said to evangelize, and so I do it."
To me that's a weird, but a very honest, and very faithful answer.
Now, if somebody's only reason for evangelism is just that God said to do it,
that may seem weird to me personally,
but I really can't find any fault there.
If a man is being faithful to God, then I should appreciate and respect that.
Again, I'm not convinced it is really philosophically consistent...
but I just can't find any fault with a person faithfully serving God and preaching the gospel.
To me... this is all really interesting.
In my own personal experience, I find that Calvinsts and Arminians who are genuine believers, all get up each day and live their lives pretty much identically.
This isn't to say doctrine is unimportant; the bible says it is.
But if we are all being led by the spirit, and being conformed to the image of Christ... we're going to end up doing a lot of the same things.
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