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    Default Why Here in the BDF?

    Because Calvinist Movie will probably end up being discussed like a BDF topic. It will make a few a little angry because their fragile theology will be challenged and refuted, even if only via the trailers:



    For the record, I've yet to watch the movie, but have ordered it, and, LORD willing it should arrive this weekend and we will be able to see it.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

    A god who can be fashioned by our own thoughts is no more a god than an image produced by our own hands. - Charles Spurgeon


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    Default Re: Why Here in the BDF?

    Trailer #2:

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    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

    A god who can be fashioned by our own thoughts is no more a god than an image produced by our own hands. - Charles Spurgeon


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    Are you a Calvinist?
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    Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

    Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

    Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."

    Rom3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"


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    Default Re: Why Here in the BDF?

    I only watch stuff rated by Siskel and Ebert.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    Are you a Calvinist?
    Naw!!!!!!! Just kidding.

    I am though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    Are you a Calvinist?
    Of course. One cannot honestly read the Scriptures in context and not be one.
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

    A god who can be fashioned by our own thoughts is no more a god than an image produced by our own hands. - Charles Spurgeon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    I only watch stuff rated by Siskel and Ebert.....
    Annnnnnddddd...liars will be fryers!
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

    A god who can be fashioned by our own thoughts is no more a god than an image produced by our own hands. - Charles Spurgeon


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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Trailer #2:

    I laughed when the portrait of Cavin reached over and pulled the nail out that held Arminius' portrait. It crashed and broke. Lullz!!!
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    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    Thomas Cranmer

    "A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats."

    Charles Spurgeon

    “The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

    William Booth

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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Of course. One cannot honestly read the Scriptures in context and not be one.
    LOL, I dont follow Calvin I follow Yahshua, He gives me understanding.
    Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

    Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

    Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."

    Rom3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    LOL, I dont follow Calvin I follow Yahshua, He gives me understanding.
    We don't follow Calvin, either.

    Arminians don't follow Arminius, either.
    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    Thomas Cranmer

    "A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats."

    Charles Spurgeon

    “The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

    William Booth

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    Hopefuly I can watch it somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignGrace View Post
    We don't follow Calvin, either.

    Arminians don't follow Arminius, either.
    Why is ti called Calvinist then, honestly that is something that always threw me off about Lutheran, Calvinist, etc...
    Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

    Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

    Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."

    Rom3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    LOL,
    LOL

    I dont follow Calvin
    Nor do I. But you are highly influenced by another's teachings, other than Christs. Unless, of course, you're one who has gotten ALL of his teachings only directly from God and no one else has ever taught you, unless you go circular and claim all your teachers were only taught directly from God.

    Too.

    See the problem?

    I follow Yahshua, He gives me understanding.
    But of course!

    Your statement above is designed to point to yourself more than to any other. "Congrats!!!!"
    People are offended that God is God.

    Oh, my brethren! bold-hearted men are always called mean-spirited by cowards. - Charles Spurgeon

    Open Theism and Molinism, two inept theological camps, do err in this sense; God doesn't have an R&D department, He does all things perfectly.

    A god who can be fashioned by our own thoughts is no more a god than an image produced by our own hands. - Charles Spurgeon


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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    LOL

    Nor do I. But you are highly influenced by another's teachings, other than Christs. Unless, of course, you're one who has gotten ALL of his teachings only directly from God and no one else has ever taught you, unless you go circular and claim all your teachers were only taught directly from God.

    Too.

    See the problem?



    But of course!

    Your statement above is designed to point to yourself more than to any other. "Congrats!!!!"
    ok. So I cant even say I follow the Messiah and He has shown me the way Im being self righteous? Are you looking for a excuse to accuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    LOL
    But you are highly influenced by another's teachings, other than Christs. Unless, of course, you're one who has gotten ALL of his teachings only directly from God and no one else has ever taught you, unless you go circular and claim all your teachers were only taught directly from God.
    This is not true and even if it were how would you even know that? Can you find a single post where I used anothers teaching directly or indirectly concerning Scripture?
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    Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

    Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

    Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."

    Rom3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    Why is ti called Calvinist then, honestly that is something that always threw me off about Lutheran, Calvinist, etc...
    Saying I am a Calvinist lets ppl know where I stand in regards to TULIP.

    But I don't agree with his eccesiology or paedobaptism stance.

    Plus, saying I am a Calvinist gives ppl a target to shoot at.
    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    Thomas Cranmer

    "A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats."

    Charles Spurgeon

    “The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

    William Booth

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    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignGrace View Post
    Saying I am a Calvinist lets ppl know where I stand in regards to TULIP.

    But I don't agree with his eccesiology or paedobaptism stance.

    Plus, saying I am a Calvinist gives ppl a target to shoot at.
    What is TULIP?
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    Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

    Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

    Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."

    Rom3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Of course. One cannot honestly read the Scriptures in context and not be one.
    I respect your right to be totally wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    What is TULIP?
    Basically it is false doctrine dressed up as "the doctrines of grace".

    T = Total Depravity
    U = Unconditional Election
    L = Limited Atonement
    I = Irresistible Grace
    P = Perseverance of the saints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hizikyah View Post
    What is TULIP?
    Total depravity
    Unconditional election
    Limited atonement
    Irresistible grace
    Perseverance of the saints
    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    Thomas Cranmer

    "A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats."

    Charles Spurgeon

    “The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

    William Booth

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    Quote Originally Posted by preacher4truth View Post
    Because Calvinist Movie will probably end up being discussed like a BDF topic. It will make a few a little angry because their fragile theology will be challenged and refuted, even if only via the trailers:



    For the record, I've yet to watch the movie, but have ordered it, and, LORD willing it should arrive this weekend and we will be able to see it.
    How much $???
    Laish likes this.
    "What the heart loves, the will chooses, and the mind justifies."

    Thomas Cranmer

    "A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats."

    Charles Spurgeon

    “The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”

    William Booth

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