Few will be saved, out of all peoples tongues nation?

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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
 

Nehemiah6

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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
You can harmonize both those Scriptures by taking into account the fact that the total human population from the beginning compared to a "great multitude" of the redeemed ones still means that relatively few will be saved.
 
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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
Very few responded in a positive way to Jesus, so why should we expect better results?
All we can do is witness to them. After that it is between them and God.
Sadly, most will reject.
 
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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
When I first joined this site 2.5 years ago, (I quit and rejoined, so my stats aren't accurate), there were 7.2 billion people on earth. Now there are 7.4 billion!

Billion! Can you imagine billion? Just one single billion? I can't. But it's 1000 million, and I can't even imagine a million.

I live in a city with a little over a million people. We lined a major street once for a celebration after our team won the World Series, and that was six feet deep of standing people on both sides of the street for 3 miles, plus a completely filled stadium, and yet we didn't all go to the celebration. (I didn't go and it was two blocks from me. I get a bit scared in large crowds.) They estimated the crowd size at a million.

That said, that's how many people live right now. How many lived before now? It had to be billions too, right?

So if a fraction of all the people who ever live get to spend eternity with the Lord, it will still be "a great multitude, which no man can number." Even .01% of 7.4 billion is still 7.4 million, and there were a lot more people since Adam and Even than that.
 
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Few will be saved....many called but few chosen.... <---throught history

the other number pertains to the great tribulation that ALL CHURCHES will endure "regardless of the imminent returners" and during that time the churches will be purified and many saved out of that witness....just like the dark ages and how many were won by those being killed for Christ.....!!
 
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Very few responded in a positive way to Jesus, so why should we expect better results?
All we can do is witness to them. After that it is between them and God.
Sadly, most will reject.
indeed. but there is a promise that from every nation people tongue someone will be saved. :)
 

phil36

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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Its not hard to harmonize.. If we take all of human history and count how many humans there have been and will be, we can say 'Few', but that few over the whole of redemptive history is a great multitude.

That aside, these verses should make us want to evangelise even more, with urgency. They should make us weep for the lost as we know their fate. All men/woman need to hear the Gospel. They have a choice, but we need to take it to them.
 

maxwel

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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!


The word "few" is a relative term.

You could easily have a "great multitude" of people in heaven who are only a "few" of a larger number... like the total number of people on earth who "could" have made it to heaven.


There IS NO DISCREPANCY HERE.
 
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that means someone from those remote tribes in the jungles must have atleast one saved person during the time that language/tribe existed.
 

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hi people. i saw this conversation going on and i want to make a separate article about it because i wanna see how we can reconcile these verses:

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

so we have few vs great multitude, rev 5:9 confirms these great multitude are saved.

have at it bros, i ask for your views on the harmonizing of this! or explanation.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
Mat 7:14 is telling us that compared with the general population at any given time, relatively few will believe and follow The Truth as revealed in Scripture.

IMO Rev 7:9 refers to all believers in all times and places who have been raptured (caught up) to heaven after the 6th seal has been opened.
 
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The word "few" is a relative term.

You could easily have a "great multitude" of people in heaven who are only a "few" of a larger number... like the total number of people on earth who "could" have made it to heaven.


There IS NO DISCREPANCY HERE.
oh im not here to cause contradictions. i just paid attention to the of every tongue part. there are some tribes we havent reached, so a long time ago someone in that tribe got saved.

thanks for participating
 

maxwel

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that means someone from those remote tribes in the jungles must have atleast one saved person during the time that language/tribe existed.

Snoozy,

It seems like you have some kind of point to make.
Why don't you just tell us what's on your mind?
 

NayborBear

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Could be a coupla "reconciles", as you put it. One may reconcile this, in terms much like Jesus spoke to Peter about not ALL of Peter was saved. The reconciling factor here? Is our time here on earth.

In the 2nd, This is a different "time". A time when, and where, ALL who have believed and accepted (whosoever will, may come, yanno?), and, are "clothed in white robes". One could assume, that everyone present, is fully clothed, in white robes. One could be wrong, too! Perhaps, the palms they are holding, are feebly trying to "cover" that/those parts of themselves, that are not covered with the white robe?

A question I might ask, is during all this, you are trying to reconcile? What happened to the "Gospel Armor?"
 

phil36

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that means someone from those remote tribes in the jungles must have atleast one saved person during the time that language/tribe existed.

Well, we know for certain that no man is without excuse (Rom 1:18-23). We don't know who has heard the gospel or not.. thats why we need to be good witness' in our communities, work at home etc etc, and help pay the bills of those who do go to foreign places,and if not with money most certainly with prayer.

One thing I know is that God has a plan, and that plan will succeed. We have been given a commission to take the word and spread it, thats a great privilege to be given. And the scripture you provided in OP, should remind us of the urgency.

Anyhow back to your post, We don't know who or who hasn't (in the big picture), heard the gospel, but we do know no man is without excuse, he see's God's invisible attributes in nature and he has conscience which he has seared by his own wickedness Romans 2:12-16
 

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oh im not here to cause contradictions. i just paid attention to the of every tongue part. there are some tribes we havent reached, so a long time ago someone in that tribe got saved.

thanks for participating
Hi Snoozy,

So you're talking about Unreached People Groups.

Here's a fantastic informational video on that from Frontier Missions. We need to pray for workers to go out and reach those who haven't been reached yet.

https://vimeo.com/128750127
 

phil36

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Hi Snoozy,

So you're talking about Unreached People Groups.

Here's a fantastic informational video on that from Frontier Missions. We need to pray for workers to go out and reach those who haven't been reached yet.

https://vimeo.com/128750127
Good video presentation Desertrose... we all should take note and atleast pray for the unreached.
 
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Snoozy,

It seems like you have some kind of point to make.
Why don't you just tell us what's on your mind?
i would tell u if i had a point. trust me im not the one to make an article and circle around subjects u can read my other messages im very forward.
 

maxwel

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i would tell u if i had a point. trust me im not the one to make an article and circle around subjects u can read my other messages im very forward.
Fair enough.

: )
 

Locutus

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Asleep at the "wheel" again snoozy boy - look at the bloomin' context:

Luke 13:22 And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

Luke 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The only place that Jesus walked was Judea/Samaria/Jerusalem and the surroundings the only context for the above is that area where the people of that time could say "We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets."

"and hath shut to the door" relates to the compassing of Jerusalem by the Roman armies in the war of 66-70 AD - there was no escape has they had not heeded the warning to repent at the preaching of John the B and the wrath to come and Himself or the apostles.

Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.


Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

When Christ spoke all the above the children of the kingdom were unrepentant Jews/Israelites and the whole context is the 1st century AD.

Wake up out of your snooze bro.....