Have you learned what the "soul" REALLY is, yet?

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The 144,000 consist of 12,000 virgin males from each Israelite tribe that are sealed by God and will be singing a new song.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I don't claim to be a bible scholar. Still, I have been reading and studying the bible for twice the amount of years that you have been alive.

For being a 24 year old you think that you know it all.

You asks a lot of questions then insult and disparaged those that don't agree with you. You never give the answers to any of the questions that you ask. I surmise the reason for this is because you really don't have a clue.

Your meaningless drivel is starting to bore me.
 
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Seeing how you reject the bible in favor of a liar <--Charles Taze Russell......I fully expect you to reject any and all truth pertaining to your future destiny which will be realized albeit too late for you to do anything about it...

Is Jesus God...yes or no?
 
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Hi thequestiontime,
I don't understand what you mean by resurrection, could you explain. Many thanks?
Your answer below is kind of confusing:
But I didn't ask that, I asked as Michael the Archangel, did he take on flesh. Did the archangel become born of a virgin. Or did he cease to exist. Did jesus as flesh cease to exist when he died on the cross? and was the Archangel created again into existence.?
These are important question and I hope you answer them.
I will try to make it simpler.
Being an angel does not mean being a chubby winged baby or creature.
It means being chosen to carry God's Message.
Thus MEN are referred to as angels in the Bible.
So God's son who was and still IS the Archangel (Leader of the messengers/angels), was such when born as a man.
NOTHING CHANGED except his form, his 'nature'. He was no longer a SPIRIT being, but a HUMAN being.

When he died he was NO LONGER ALIVE until brought BACK to life (Resurrected) 3 days later.

Do I need to start counting the times I ask you to answer How he could Rise from The Dead...if NEVER DEAD?
 

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I will try to make it simpler.
Being an angel does not mean being a chubby winged baby or creature.
It means being chosen to carry God's Message.
Thus MEN are referred to as angels in the Bible.
So God's son who was and still IS the Archangel (Leader of the messengers/angels), was such when born as a man.
NOTHING CHANGED except his form, his 'nature'. He was no longer a SPIRIT being, but a HUMAN being.

When he died he was NO LONGER ALIVE until brought BACK to life (Resurrected) 3 days later.

Do I need to start counting the times I ask you to answer How he could Rise from The Dead...if NEVER DEAD?
w/e

But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.
(Luke 20:35-36)




 

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I will try to make it simpler.
Being an angel does not mean being a chubby winged baby or creature.
It means being chosen to carry God's Message.
Thus MEN are referred to as angels in the Bible.
So God's son who was and still IS the Archangel (Leader of the messengers/angels), was such when born as a man.
NOTHING CHANGED except his form, his 'nature'. He was no longer a SPIRIT being, but a HUMAN being.

When he died he was NO LONGER ALIVE until brought BACK to life (Resurrected) 3 days later.

Do I need to start counting the times I ask you to answer How he could Rise from The Dead...if NEVER DEAD?

Thanks for explaining, but I am still very confused. Are you saying the Archangel Michael took on flesh, be was born of a virgin?

And you still haven't described what you mean by resurrected..in what way was jesus resurrected, brought back to life in what manner.. Where is the Archangel Michael i all this? has he ceased and then, created in a flesh form, then created again in an angel form?

And where does scripture tell us of any of this.. That the Archangel Michael (named jesus for a time)died on the cross? Or is jesus created again after death and he is someone different from the archangel Michael..

Don't be worried about going into detail I am sure we are all interested, especially from scripture?

26And regarding the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” You are badly mistaken! Mark 12:26-27
 
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The 144,000 consist of 12,000 virgin males from each Israelite tribe that are sealed by God and will be singing a new song.

As I mentioned in an earlier post I don't claim to be a bible scholar. Still, I have been reading and studying the bible for twice the amount of years that you have been alive.

For being a 24 year old you think that you know it all.

You asks a lot of questions then insult and disparaged those that don't agree with you. You never give the answers to any of the questions that you ask. I surmise the reason for this is because you really don't have a clue.

Your meaningless drivel is starting to bore me.

I am (OOPS! Not claiming to Be God, Trinnies!) not 24.
I don't give much personal info online.
I am older than 40.
Truth taken as insult is not my fault.
Why should I answer my own questions?
Revelation is a SYMBOLIC VISION, unless you think the Triune God 'Gay' , as the word is used today....
 
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They ALWAYS hijack a Topic that reveals Truth....
So- how many of you ACCEPT what Genesis clearly revealed the soul is- both man and animal?

The soul that is subject to salvation is the one that is created in the image of God the other souls are not. Male and female created he them as two creatures .Mankind one creation in his own image, in the image of God created he mankind . Not the animal kind or the angel kind neither are subject to salvation. No written commandments for them.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 
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The word angel without any other meaning added means...” messenger” , as one sent (apostle) He is sent with the word of another. It can be applied to the spiritual world as that not seen or to that seen the temporal .

The message brought reflects as a mediator between two parties. Which can be applied according to John 6?

Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

We come to Christ who brings us the word of the Father . He sent the apostle Christ to mediate between God and man

Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

In that way remembering God is no longer bringing any new revelations. Believers as prophets who declare the word of God can be used to aid another as messengers or maybe receive aid.

The angels in the verse below are according to the sons of God as those who do the will of God and not the other kind of sons of God that were not formed from the dust those other angels bring another kind of gospel another kind of Christ the chief messenger (Arch Angel) of God.

Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Even on this kind of message board we must be careful we could be entertaining angels unaware.

Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

I think Christ the apostle of our calling is the chief messenger in that way . But as the Son of man he refused to be called one just as he refused to be called good teacher Rabbi for one is in heaven His father .Reserving that for the father not seen.( Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.)

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Heb 1:2-6

For unto which of the angels as messengers other than His Son not seen did he say I would say... I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son ... he was not saying there is no mediator between God and man but declared the one that all messengers, human and angels that are not subject to salvation bow down and worship.

The Son of man refused worship according to his corrupted flesh typified as sinful..it was a demonstaration of a work that had been finished from the foundation of the world

The messenger of God His Son not seen is represented by him seen the Son of man . But not in respect to his earthen corrupted body it was subject to the same law found below just as we are...

2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

God is not a man as Us. We walk by faith.
 

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I am (OOPS! Not claiming to Be God, Trinnies!) not 24.
I don't give much personal info online.
I am older than 40.
Truth taken as insult is not my fault.
Why should I answer my own questions?
Revelation is a SYMBOLIC VISION, unless you think the Triune God 'Gay' , as the word is used today....
So, your profile is based on a lie. Whatever credibility you may have had is now gone. Why should you answer your own questions? A more interesting question is why anyone would answer yours.
 
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So, your profile is based on a lie. Whatever credibility you may have had is now gone. Why should you answer your own questions? A more interesting question is why anyone would answer yours.
His credibility went out the window the second he started pushing Charles Taze Russellism and Watchtower comic book religion...

Is Jesus God or NOT? <---He has refused to answer this..........
 
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phil36; Are you saying the Archangel Michael took on flesh, be was born of a virgin?

If we are correct about that being his name before being given the name "Jesus".
Jesus IS the Leader od his fellow Angels, whom he was raised above.

phil36; And you still haven't described what you mean by resurrected..in what way was jesus resurrected, brought back to life in what manner..

In what manner? All we know is that the dead WERE resurrected a few times- by prophets, Jesus and the Apostles- and will be again. Maybe YOU can tell us in what "manner" God resurrected them.

phil36; Where is the Archangel Michael i all this? has he ceased and then, created in a flesh form, then created again in an angel form?

Still thinking winged creatures, or chubby winged babies? "Angel" and "ARCHANGEL" ARE ROLES, POSITIONS. God's son WAS that Leader. (Archangel)

phil36; And where does scripture tell us of any of this.. That the Archangel Michael (named jesus for a time)died on the cross? Or is jesus created again after death and he is someone different from the archangel Michael..

The scriptures do not tell us what the name of God's son was prior to him becoming a man; so we can only guess, based on what the scriptures DO tell us; they show Jesus being elevated over his fellow angels, but still leading them, shouting with the Voice (authority) of Archangel- so we JWs KNOW his name WAS Michael.

 
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His credibility went out the window the second he started pushing Charles Taze Russellism and Watchtower comic book religion...

Is Jesus God or NOT? <---He has refused to answer this..........
You have never had any credibility to go out a window.
And it appears you have a reading disorder- for I have answered that MANY times- maybe your fellow Trinnies can help you read....
 

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You have never had any credibility to go out a window.
And it appears you have a reading disorder- for I have answered that MANY times- maybe your fellow Trinnies can help you read....
You have been banished so you are now a non-entity with zero credibility.
 
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You have been banished so you are now a non-entity with zero credibility.
That sleepy little town along I-44 called Banville gained another occupant............this is a Christian website where JESUS is honored not devalued to a created being possessed by an angel...........
 

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You have been banished so you are now a non-entity with zero credibility.
What's nuts is that he'll probably take the experience of having all his false doctrines destroyed and misinterpretations shredded and being eventually banned as some crazy kind of proof that he's the only one speaking truth. And he'll just go to another forum, all the puffier for having been debunked one additional time...


+25 jw points??
 
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for Christians, he is to be 'loved and prayed for/forgiven', for this is the will of God...
 

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The only thing I learned from "arguing" with a JW is not to argue with a JW.

They see things in black white - while Trinitrons see in colour...




 

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I checked other places and he is on a few same name ( spelled correctly this time ) and same avatar .
Blessings
Bill