What a soul is considered

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Blain

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So I have been pondering the past few days about what a soul is considered to be and if a soul is limited to only humans. When I think about us humans I don't simply see flesh and bones we have emotions and feelings and senses that are not simply intuition and we can become very passionate about things like a raging fire. Now science says this comes from the brain and this maybe true but I wonder if the soul has more to do with it than anything?

I have heard it said that animals don't have souls but seeing how so many animals have such unique traits and personalities and have such a diverse set of quirks it seems odd to me for them to just be a life form that is simply alive but not having a soul itself that sounds more like a robot to me. Aside from that I have been wondering about where the soul itself resides, some say the brain and I suppose I can see why some would think that but if i had to say from my own opinion I would say it resides in our mid section almost like it's in a realm within the body that cannot be seen by the human eye kind of like how the holy spirit resides in us like that. I mean for me at least when I feel him alive in me it is always in my mid section and so based on that I think maybe our soul is the same manner.


I also have wondered what our soul really is, I could be wrong but I feel that it is our true selves it is who we really and truly are in the deepest depth not having anything to do with our physical appearance or our faults or anything that we are lacking in or not but who we are when God knew us before creation.
So what is soul really? and is it limited only to the human race?
 

Gabriel2020

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A soul is the combination of flesh and spirit. God breathed the breath of life into Adam and he became a living soul.
 

Gabriel2020

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JOB; 12; 10; In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.
 

Blain

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Ok if a soul is a combination of the flesh and spirit then what is a spirit?
 

Gabriel2020

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Without the spirit, there could be no life. It is the spirit that have always brought fourth life in any creature. that spirit is from the one that can give life to any creature or anything ,and that is God all by himself.
 

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If Adam was a 'living soul 'after having the breath of life breathed into him can we assume he was a 'lifeless soul 'before that event ? Would that mean Adam was just a body, a human form ? He was created from clay/earth dust OUTSIDE the garden God had prepared for man and God put there the man He had formed.

As far as I can see 'soul and body are the same thing and can either be alive or dead and also be 'conscious or unconscious...but the spirit in man is something else....as is the Holy Spirit of God.

Many people consider 'soul and spirit to be the same thing...but scripture is clear that it is the spirit that returns to God and not the soul which goes into the grave/returns to dust Eccl 12v7.

Normal life such as is given to man and beast functions on OXIGEN-breathing air in and out and does not depend on spirit or conscious awareness or indeed awareness of God.
It is only when we are REgenerated and have our human spirit renewed(upon sincere repentance) Ps 51v10, that we can start our reconcilliation with God.
Here also most people 'jump the gun by assuming this makes them 'born again...when in fact we are only 'begotten/conceived. If we base our spiritual experience on our human life (first the natural then the spiritual 1Cor 15v46) we find that conceiving/begetting are the first stage of a new life....same with God....yet nobody ever speaks of begetting and gestation and yet is most important to consider. We can't be 'born again unless we are first MADE into a new Creature which happens during gestation...and THEN will be declared to be a Son or Daughter of God with power according to the spirit of holiness 'by the resurrection from the dead' ...'THEN truly born again' not before.
 

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If Adam was a 'living soul 'after having the breath of life breathed into him can we assume he was a 'lifeless soul 'before that event ? Would that mean Adam was just a body, a human form ? He was created from clay/earth dust OUTSIDE the garden God had prepared for man and God put there the man He had formed.

As far as I can see 'soul and body are the same thing and can either be alive or dead and also be 'conscious or unconscious...but the spirit in man is something else....as is the Holy Spirit of God.

Many people consider 'soul and spirit to be the same thing...but scripture is clear that it is the spirit that returns to God and not the soul which goes into the grave/returns to dust Eccl 12v7.

Normal life such as is given to man and beast functions on OXIGEN-breathing air in and out and does not depend on spirit or conscious awareness or indeed awareness of God.
It is only when we are REgenerated and have our human spirit renewed(upon sincere repentance) Ps 51v10, that we can start our reconcilliation with God.
Here also most people 'jump the gun by assuming this makes them 'born again...when in fact we are only 'begotten/conceived. If we base our spiritual experience on our human life (first the natural then the spiritual 1Cor 15v46) we find that conceiving/begetting are the first stage of a new life....same with God....yet nobody ever speaks of begetting and gestation and yet is most important to consider. We can't be 'born again unless we are first MADE into a new Creature which happens during gestation...and THEN will be declared to be a Son or Daughter of God with power according to the spirit of holiness 'by the resurrection from the dead' ...'THEN truly born again' not before.
And yet Jesus says no one can see the kingdom unless he is 'born again' - the work of the Spirit renewing the heart. Thats the new man the spiritual man...not the natural (that should also give you clue about 1 Cor 15:46)
 

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And yet Jesus says no one can see the kingdom unless he is 'born again' - the work of the Spirit renewing the heart. Thats the new man the spiritual man...not the natural (that should also give you clue about 1 Cor 15:46)
Not renew only the heart but also the spirit making us into a spiritual creation...which takes time...just like a humanly conceived/begotten Baby needs time to DEVELOP before birth.
 

Gabriel2020

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A soul can only be life in the flesh. before life, there was no soul, only after the spirit brought it to life did it become a soul, a living being. death was first, then life by God's spirit. that is why he told them that to eat from the tree would cause them to die. the way they were before he breathed life into them, which is his spirit. that is what all of mankind inherited from Adam. Adam and Eve's spirit was holy as God's spirit is holy before the transgression.Their spirit did not die but instead they separated themselves from God ,causing their spirits to become unholy.they were no longer connected to God. They became little gods, and saw things their way. no longer dependent on God for survival. They made their own decisions for their lives.
 
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Ok if a soul is a combination of the flesh and spirit then what is a spirit?
"Spirit" is how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for "Breath" and "Wind"- both used to describe an unseen force or energy.
 
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Man has a spirit,soul and body.Before Adam fell,mans spirit was perfect but after sin entered Into the world mans spirit became separated from GOD and would need to be reborn of Incorruptible seed.
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1 Thessalonians 5:23
King James Version(KJV)

23.)And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Man has a spirit,soul and body.
Mas IS a soul- alive with God's Breath ("spirit") or dead, if without, as His 'breath' (unseen power) returns to Him.

Isa 42:5- Thus saith God Jehovah, he that created the heavens, and stretched them forth; he that spread abroad the
earth and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein.-ASV
 

jb

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This is a bit of a blog on the creation of humans which contains some info on the soul...
 
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A soul is the combination of flesh and spirit. God breathed the breath of life into Adam and he became a living soul.
The flesh profits for nothing. A living soul speaks of the line of communication between two spirits .As born again Christians we have received a new spirit that could never die .That soul can commune with another Spirit, the father of all spirits .

He did not breath into the other beasts of the field and they became a living soul . Living creature yes, soul no.
 
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This is a bit of a blog on the creation of humans which contains some info on the soul...
I like this part of the blog

Man is a soul, he possesses a spirit and a body, the former whereby he can contact the spirit world, and the latter with which to enter and appreciate the material world. The soul, if it loses its body, is dead to this world; if it loses its spirit, it is dead to God and the Heavenly world. If it loses both, it is dead to both worlds, conscious only of the isolation and hopeless darkness of death.
 

Nehemiah6

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I also have wondered what our soul really is, I could be wrong but I feel that it is our true selves it is who we really and truly are in the deepest depth not having anything to do with our physical appearance or our faults or anything that we are lacking in or not but who we are when God knew us before creation. ...So what is soul really?
You got it. The soul is your true self or the real you, whereas your body is the "receptacle" for your soul.
...and is it limited only to the human race?
According to Job 12:10 every living thing has a soul.
In whose hand is the soul [Hebrew nephesh] of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

However, only human beings have spirits, and only human beings can have a relationship with God, and go to Heaven. Animals do not go to Heaven.
 

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A soul can only be life in the flesh. before life, there was no soul, only after the spirit brought it to life did it become a soul, a living being. death was first, then life by God's spirit. that is why he told them that to eat from the tree would cause them to die. the way they were before he breathed life into them, which is his spirit. that is what all of mankind inherited from Adam. Adam and Eve's spirit was holy as God's spirit is holy before the transgression.Their spirit did not die but instead they separated themselves from God ,causing their spirits to become unholy.they were no longer connected to God. They became little gods, and saw things their way. no longer dependent on God for survival. They made their own decisions for their lives.
^^Thanks for the explanation, in this post and above. Very helpful.

So when a person is born today (after the fall), does that baby have the spirit of God or the spirit of Adam and Eve?
 

Nehemiah6

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So when a person is born today (after the fall), does that baby have the spirit of God or the spirit of Adam and Eve?
Neither. Only those who have experienced the New Birth have the Spirit of God, and that is only after they have obeyed the Gospel and received the gift of the Holy Ghost. Babies have a "dead" spirit from birth until the time that they are regenerated. After that, their spirits are brought to life ("quickened") by the power of the Holy Spirit, and then they can commune with God and understand spiritual things.