lol, I think your on to something there in that it is not by force but rather by "choice" Strong's Greek: 5585. ψηφίζω (pséphizó) -- to count, calculate ,,, http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/98131-apollyon.html
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lol, I think your on to something there in that it is not by force but rather by "choice" Strong's Greek: 5585. ψηφίζω (pséphizó) -- to count, calculate ,,, http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/98131-apollyon.html
I am fairly confident that you my friend will need the back up plan....I already have mine in place....Wise men see evil coming and prepare for it!
There is no such thing as a magical, imminent return were we all go poof and disappear and everyone wonders where we went.....
EVERY EYE shall see him coming in the clouds with power and great GLORY.....up to and including...
The disciples <--ACTS
The religious lost <-Hereafter you shall see (Pharisees)
Every Kindred, tongue and nation <--Revelation
and even JESUS said his Parousia was like lightning that strikes in the east and is seen in the west......or like the "buzzards" on a dead dear in the ditch! <<<<<<VISIBLE
There is no such thing as a magical, imminent return were we all go poof and disappear and everyone wonders where we went.....
EVERY EYE shall see him coming in the clouds with power and great GLORY.....up to and including...
The disciples <--ACTS
The religious lost <-Hereafter you shall see (Pharisees)
Every Kindred, tongue and nation <--Revelation
and even JESUS said his Parousia was like lightning that strikes in the east and is seen in the west......or like the "buzzards" on a dead dear in the ditch! <<<<<<VISIBLE
Yes I know I have www.beastsmark.com
believe it might help if you went back and read the story about the 10 virgins. Read it closely... all of them were believers in Christ...It was just that 5 of them were not looking for him....He tells you right there it is going to happen.
My backup plan is to continue until I die at which time, I will see Christ then. It is a win/win situation. God is in total control, and if it is time for me to die, then so be it.
The rapture and the 22nd coming of Christ are very different...The Rapture has to have NOTHing (no events of anykind) to happen before it happens. The 2nd coming has to have major events to happen prior to His arrival.
I'd still would work on that backup plan. just in case.
My backup plan is to continue until I die at which time, I will see Christ then. It is a win/win situation. God is in total control, and if it is time for me to die, then so be it.
The rapture and the 22nd coming of Christ are very different...The Rapture has to have NOTHing (no events of anykind) to happen before it happens. The 2nd coming has to have major events to happen prior to His arrival.
I'd still would work on that backup plan. just in case.
No. I will just die. What scares me is my autistic son will not die before me. But I have prayed and asked G-d to let him die before me or us die together. So when it comes the this mark of the beast thing we can reject it together and therefore die together, so I'm good.That is my only true worry in life, that he dies before me. I do not want him to feel the pain of death.
Try not worry too much.Let pray for your autistic son, brother. For sure God love him and God know how to save him more than us. I myself have austistic son and some time worry about what happen to him if I die. But one day I hear a preacher say that God able to help our son more than us. He tell the story that there is a baby die in his mother lap.
Another good testimony, from ex witch from Bandung, she was a student from Christian university, and involve with the power of darkness, she can heal people or move anything without touching. When she decide to accept Jesus, The devil mad, in the class room the devil lift up her to the ceiling, the Christian professor and all the class made pray for hours before the devil release her.
One day lucifer appear and ask and ask her to have a meeting in the hotel, she want to refuse but God tell her to go. She went to a meeting room, there are 4 people there and after wait a few minute, lucifer show up.
Lucifer ask ask her back to him but she refused, than Lucifer mad and try to strangled her neck, she try to fight use her hand, but she hear the voice do not fight back, she let her hand of, and she see the hand of God took over, Lucifer bounce back
Let God fight for us brother.
This is link of her testimony, I am not tell the whole story, I only show my point that God willing to fight for us if we let Him do.
https://kesaksiansegalabangsa.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/melanie-prasetyo-lala-calon-permaisuri-setan/
Another good testimony, from ex witch from Bandung, she was a student from Christian university, and involve with the power of darkness, she can heal people or move anything without touching. When she decide to accept Jesus, The devil mad, in the class room the devil lift up her to the ceiling, the Christian professor and all the class made pray for hours before the devil release her.
One day lucifer appear and ask and ask her to have a meeting in the hotel, she want to refuse but God tell her to go. She went to a meeting room, there are 4 people there and after wait a few minute, lucifer show up.
Lucifer ask ask her back to him but she refused, than Lucifer mad and try to strangled her neck, she try to fight use her hand, but she hear the voice do not fight back, she let her hand of, and she see the hand of God took over, Lucifer bounce back
Let God fight for us brother.
This is link of her testimony, I am not tell the whole story, I only show my point that God willing to fight for us if we let Him do.
https://kesaksiansegalabangsa.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/melanie-prasetyo-lala-calon-permaisuri-setan/
Thank you so much. I am blessed. Many parents do not want their children to grow up, mine will always be my little boy. Every human has been fearfully and wonderfully made in the image of G-d. He knows some words and he prays. A 2 second prayer takes him an hour, no kidding, but when he prays G-d answers, no kidding. He is my sweet, gentle, obedient, midy manly man of G-d. When he was around two he hit me so hard with a toy the screwed in batters flew out, across my stretched out legs. I was in pain and that came to me. And I called him that. I have never called him anything since. One of my sisters calls her children every name in "the book" since they were small, and they are as adults.
I honestly am ok, no matter what. People miss quote the Scripture an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But its context is murdering a child in utero. Look it up. I settled with G-d a long time ago He created my son in my womb He is responsible for Him. But as a mother I do not want to feel the pain of death and I want David Jacob to move home first.
Maybe G-d will put him in his right mind, maybe He won't before Heaven. Nomatter what if he moves home first or not He is G-d's, but I pray he will die first, but if G-d does not answer that prayer I will be dead what will I know... See life is not so complicated with Y-shua.... This is a vapor... nothing more...
I was just saying in the original thread my son and I will not take sum stupid chip and if we die, we die, I want us to die together.... or him first....
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The beast kingdom will separate all those who love God,from all those who do not,and there is no in between,and then the beast shall make war against all those who hold the testimony of Jesus for three and one half years,and then those that remain on earth will be gathered unto Christ.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect(it is not possible but will appear real to the saints,but they know it is lying wonders).
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Babylon will never have dominion again after they fell,but her life was prolonged for a season and time,and the beast kingdom represents the Babylonian spirit,for it is the kingdom of man.
When the 6 trumpets occur,and the world does not turn to God,then He will allow the man of sin to rule over the world.
War will break out in heaven,and the devils will be cast to earth,and Satan will appear as the man of sin,and the devils will deceive all people who do not love the truth,but have pleasure in unrighteousness,and the beast will make war against all who hold the testimony of Jesus.
The saints will not be tempted when the world comes together,and the elect will not be deceived by the beast.
And that is the key to not be deceived by the devil when the devils are cast to earth,if you keep the commandments of God,and hold the testimony of Jesus,and do not have pleasure in unrighteousness.
When the world comes together,and says,Peace and safety,salvation is still available to the world,for God is giving them a chance to turn to Him,as the world wants to hear religion in the form of spiritual evolution through nature,and the world will try to establish peace on earth,and after the three and one half years they do not turn to God,so He allows the man of sin to rule over them,and when they take the mark of the beast,then salvation is no longer available to them,and the saints can then be gathered unto Christ,which the Bible says the saints are not going to be gathered unto Christ,until there is a falling away first,the time when they will not endure the truth of the Bible,but want to hear it according to their own lusts,and will be turned unto fables,the new age movement,unified religious system,and the man of sin claims to be God.
As long as the world can receive salvation,then the saints will not be gathered unto Christ,and when they take the mark then salvation is no longer available to the world,and the saints can be gathered unto Christ.
The mark of the beast has to do with technology,for the beast's agenda is that mankind's technology,and devices,can achieve peace on earth.
The mark of the beast will be picked up by satellite,and people can be tracked,and they will know their location on earth.If a crime happens they will know who was in the area,and how close they were to the crime scene,and can locate lost people.All information about the person will appear on the mark,and when scanned all their information will pop up on screen,including financial records,with a picture of them.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.
stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.
The microchip will be placed in the hand by a hypodermic needle.
They still have to influence the people with the new age movement,before they say Peace and safety,for there is not enough people influenced by the new age movement yet,which they interpret religions by spiritual evolution through nature,that exalts people,and honors the God of forces,or the power of nature as their higher power,that God warns us about in 1 Timothy 4:1-5,and 2 Timothy 4:2-4).
The new age movement is the future for this sinful world,that will pave the way for the beast kingdom to come about.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect(it is not possible but will appear real to the saints,but they know it is lying wonders).
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
1Th 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Babylon will never have dominion again after they fell,but her life was prolonged for a season and time,and the beast kingdom represents the Babylonian spirit,for it is the kingdom of man.
When the 6 trumpets occur,and the world does not turn to God,then He will allow the man of sin to rule over the world.
War will break out in heaven,and the devils will be cast to earth,and Satan will appear as the man of sin,and the devils will deceive all people who do not love the truth,but have pleasure in unrighteousness,and the beast will make war against all who hold the testimony of Jesus.
The saints will not be tempted when the world comes together,and the elect will not be deceived by the beast.
And that is the key to not be deceived by the devil when the devils are cast to earth,if you keep the commandments of God,and hold the testimony of Jesus,and do not have pleasure in unrighteousness.
When the world comes together,and says,Peace and safety,salvation is still available to the world,for God is giving them a chance to turn to Him,as the world wants to hear religion in the form of spiritual evolution through nature,and the world will try to establish peace on earth,and after the three and one half years they do not turn to God,so He allows the man of sin to rule over them,and when they take the mark of the beast,then salvation is no longer available to them,and the saints can then be gathered unto Christ,which the Bible says the saints are not going to be gathered unto Christ,until there is a falling away first,the time when they will not endure the truth of the Bible,but want to hear it according to their own lusts,and will be turned unto fables,the new age movement,unified religious system,and the man of sin claims to be God.
As long as the world can receive salvation,then the saints will not be gathered unto Christ,and when they take the mark then salvation is no longer available to the world,and the saints can be gathered unto Christ.
The mark of the beast has to do with technology,for the beast's agenda is that mankind's technology,and devices,can achieve peace on earth.
The mark of the beast will be picked up by satellite,and people can be tracked,and they will know their location on earth.If a crime happens they will know who was in the area,and how close they were to the crime scene,and can locate lost people.All information about the person will appear on the mark,and when scanned all their information will pop up on screen,including financial records,with a picture of them.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.
stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.
The microchip will be placed in the hand by a hypodermic needle.
They still have to influence the people with the new age movement,before they say Peace and safety,for there is not enough people influenced by the new age movement yet,which they interpret religions by spiritual evolution through nature,that exalts people,and honors the God of forces,or the power of nature as their higher power,that God warns us about in 1 Timothy 4:1-5,and 2 Timothy 4:2-4).
The new age movement is the future for this sinful world,that will pave the way for the beast kingdom to come about.
It is normal as a parent, worry about our kid. It happen with me. But for sure, God know the best for us, we may do not understand how, He know it.
when I was child, I like candy, my parent tell me not but I cry for it. My parent do the best for me, but I do not understand.
God do do the best for us, by giving an autistic child, and we do not understand why. In the end of the day when we meet Him face to face, we will be grateful when we know why.
when I was child, I like candy, my parent tell me not but I cry for it. My parent do the best for me, but I do not understand.
God do do the best for us, by giving an autistic child, and we do not understand why. In the end of the day when we meet Him face to face, we will be grateful when we know why.
We walk by faith the unseen not by sight after that seen.
The mark of the beast is the number of natural man as one of the beast of the field .Beasts of the field are the creatures formed from the dust nothing more and nothing less. Not the Hollywood version use your own imagination the sky is the limit.
It is not something a person can resist any more that a person could resist be born . It’s simply natural man without the Spirit of Christ. Like that of Cain . The buying and selling is spiritual truth, as new creatures we are to buy it and not sell like that of Esau, a marked man who sold it for a bowl of soup seeing no value in it..
It’s not an outward sign but a condition of the heart and spirit . A man must be born again. Outward signs are for those who rebel prophecy for those who believe to the salvation of their soul .
Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
Evil generation... natural man ,they walk/understand by sight having no means to walk by the faith of God. A person must be born again. .
The mark of the beast is the number of natural man as one of the beast of the field .Beasts of the field are the creatures formed from the dust nothing more and nothing less. Not the Hollywood version use your own imagination the sky is the limit.
It is not something a person can resist any more that a person could resist be born . It’s simply natural man without the Spirit of Christ. Like that of Cain . The buying and selling is spiritual truth, as new creatures we are to buy it and not sell like that of Esau, a marked man who sold it for a bowl of soup seeing no value in it..
It’s not an outward sign but a condition of the heart and spirit . A man must be born again. Outward signs are for those who rebel prophecy for those who believe to the salvation of their soul .
Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
Evil generation... natural man ,they walk/understand by sight having no means to walk by the faith of God. A person must be born again. .