Standing up to Satan

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Good Christians need to take action and either "try to teach" or "stand up" to Satan and devils. If good Christians don't take action, then Satan (the deceiver and enemy of good) will get away with it's clever deceit because of today's governing laws which allow freedom of speech and don't persecute Satan when it commits it's crafty evil deeds.

We cannot wait around for Jesus or God to carry out judgement, we must use what Christ has taught us and teach/save the lost sheep; and rid the world of evil spirits. Take action, save lives, protect the future of humanity from damnation or in science terms "a barbaric hellish Earth". How do we expect to God to take action to help us if we do not take action to help another?
 

p_rehbein

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I guess, or hope, your intent is sincere...........BUT, if you think you or I, or any person can defeat the devil, you might want to do a bit of research of Scripture.......just saying.... There was one guy who decided to take on the devil ..... something to do with a pile of bones........ :) Start there.

I strongly suggest ALL believers wait for Jesus
 
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UPDATED POST: Sorry wouldn't let me edit my first post.

Good Christians need to take action and either "try to teach" or "stand up" to Satan and devils. If good Christians don't take action, then Satan (the deceiver and enemy of good) will get away with it's clever deceit because of today's governing laws which allow freedom of speech and don't persecute Satan when it commits it's crafty evil deeds.

We cannot wait around for Jesus or God to carry out judgement, we must use what Christ has taught us and teach/save the lost sheep; and rid the world of evil spirits. Take action, save lives, protect the future of humanity from damnation or in science terms "a barbaric hellish Earth". How do we expect to God to take action to help us if we do not take action to help another? Or how do we expect God to get rid of evil spirits, if we do not take action ourselves to rid the evil spirits?

Good Christians must begin to take action and set an example of the evil ones who refuse to learn and continue to be evil. Setting this example will prevent future generations of evil from manifesting, but first remember to attempt at teaching them the ways of Christ and the beauty of Christ before taking other means of action. Remember only do what you are capable of within reasonable means and safety, do not endanger yourself or the lives of other good people.
 
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I guess, or hope, your intent is sincere...........BUT, if you think you or I, or any person can defeat the devil, you might want to do a bit of research of Scripture.......just saying.... There was one guy who decided to take on the devil ..... something to do with a pile of bones........ :) Start there.

I strongly suggest ALL believers wait for Jesus

Wait for Jesus? Do you not remember what Jesus taught the disciples? That the spirit of Christ was within them, he gave them bread and wine to symbolize his spirit being apart of them. That same spirit is in good Christians who have read and understood the Holy Bible.
 

p_rehbein

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1 .) The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
2 .) Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
3 .) To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

4 .) And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

5 .) For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6 .) When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 .) And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 .) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 .) And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 .) And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 .) Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 .) Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
13 .) And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
14 .) These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
 

Hizikyah

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Ephesians 5:11, "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 6:11-17, "Put on the whole armor of YHWH, that you may be able to stand against the wiles; (crafty ways, schemes), of the devil. For we wrestle not only against flesh and blood, but also against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual forces of the evil one in the heavens. Therefore, take up the whole armor of YHWH, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day; and having overcome all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your waist belted with the truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, And having shod your feet with the preparation of the message of peace; Above all, taking the shield of the faith, with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of YHWH."
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Good Christians must begin to take action and set an example of the evil ones who refuse to learn and continue to be evil. Setting this example will prevent future generations of evil from manifesting, but first remember to attempt at teaching them the ways of Christ and the beauty of Christ before taking other means of action. Remember only do what you are capable of within reasonable means and safety, do not endanger yourself or the lives of other good people.
You are talking a violent theocracy or a withdrawn isolated community like the Amish.
I personally disagree with both.

We are to be lights in a dark world, to be overcomers through love and example.
It is hard but that is our calling.

God calls those who are willing to listen. He will and can show His authority but
it will make no difference to the witness He already has created through His people.

It is this reality which is the truth of the gospel.

I think it has passed you by and you have become overwhelmed with frustration.
 

OneFaith

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I guess I don’t know the details of how you mean to stand up to Satan. We need to fight against sin for sure, but we are not to directly challenge or antagonize Satan, or we will have to do so alone without God’s help. I remember reading this scripture, but I can’t find it. But I remember I no longer let my kids sing a certain song in church because of it, they were to remain silent during the lyrics “...and if the devil doesn’t like it he can sit on a tack, ouch! Sit on a tack, sit on a tack today.” Then it continues- “...Cause I’m so happy, so very happy, I’ve got the love of Jesus in my heart, down in my heart.”
 
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I guess I don’t know the details of how you mean to stand up to Satan. We need to fight against sin for sure, but we are not to directly challenge or antagonize Satan, or we will have to do so alone without God’s help. I remember reading this scripture, but I can’t find it. But I remember I no longer let my kids sing a certain song in church because of it, they were to remain silent during the lyrics “...and if the devil doesn’t like it he can sit on a tack, ouch! Sit on a tack, sit on a tack today.” Then it continues- “...Cause I’m so happy, so very happy, I’ve got the love of Jesus in my heart, down in my heart.”
Hi onefaith. I haven't seen you in ages. Probably because I don't get in as often as I used to. :)

I do sort of challenge satan sometimes...

He sometimes twists things up in my mind. For example, he had me convinced for a long time that temptation was to sin. But being tempted is NOT to sin. It's only sin if I advert to it. I had a time of worrying about money after my husband told me he wanted a divorce and cleaned out our bank accounts.

When I found myself sinking into worry, yes, that was sin on my part, because whatever is not of trust/faith is sin.

But along with temptation, He always gives us a way out of it, which is trust. So if I feel the worry begin to pull me under and I refuse to let that happen and rush to Him and say, help! My feet are slipping! - He comes to my aid and strengthens me and the worry leaves.

When I realized that satan was convincing me that the temptation itself was to have already sinned, I challenged him with scripture and I said, no - I'm not sinning, it is YOU who are sinning! I am trusting Him that He knows what I have need of and am refusing to worry about food and clothing as the unbelievers do. And as many times as you try to get me to sink into worry, that's how many times I will run to Him and cry for the help I need to keep trusting.

So...when we challenge satan, we do so with scripture, like Jesus did in the desert when satan tried to twist it all up with scripture, He answered with other scripture to counteract satans misuse of other scripture. :)
 

OneFaith

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Hi onefaith. I haven't seen you in ages. Probably because I don't get in as often as I used to. :)

I do sort of challenge satan sometimes...

He sometimes twists things up in my mind. For example, he had me convinced for a long time that temptation was to sin. But being tempted is NOT to sin. It's only sin if I advert to it. I had a time of worrying about money after my husband told me he wanted a divorce and cleaned out our bank accounts.

When I found myself sinking into worry, yes, that was sin on my part, because whatever is not of trust/faith is sin.

But along with temptation, He always gives us a way out of it, which is trust. So if I feel the worry begin to pull me under and I refuse to let that happen and rush to Him and say, help! My feet are slipping! - He comes to my aid and strengthens me and the worry leaves.

When I realized that satan was convincing me that the temptation itself was to have already sinned, I challenged him with scripture and I said, no - I'm not sinning, it is YOU who are sinning! I am trusting Him that He knows what I have need of and am refusing to worry about food and clothing as the unbelievers do. And as many times as you try to get me to sink into worry, that's how many times I will run to Him and cry for the help I need to keep trusting.

So...when we challenge satan, we do so with scripture, like Jesus did in the desert when satan tried to twist it all up with scripture, He answered with other scripture to counteract satans misuse of other scripture. :)
Hi, I’m on here just about every day. I’m so sorry to hear of your marriage struggles, I’ll pray for you. Yes, I’ve also realized that being tempted is not sin- Jesus was tempted, yet He never sinned. And I also fight temptation with scripture, as Jesus showed us, but I think of it as confronting temptation, not confronting Satan. I know Jesus did, and can take him on face to face, but He is God, and I don’t feel it’s our place. Even an angel said to Satan “May the Lord rebuke you.” The angel did not directly rebuke Satan.

I think of an old western movie when two cowboys face each other to see who can outshoot the other. Satan is the person in a showdown who shoots a bullet at me- the bullet being temptation, and me stopping his bullet with my own bullet- which is scripture, and the bullets collide and explode in the air- leaving no one hit.

But using scripture against him is not the only way Jesus showed us. He turned His back to him, “Get behind Me Satan.” Which is an even better way- just to ignore him. “Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” Why is that? Because Satan is not patient, if he’s making no progress he will give up, but he will be back. Sometimes I can fight temptation by simply ignoring it and changing the subject in my mind. I’ll get involved with cooking or something, or go have a conversation with someone- sometimes being God (prayer), or singing a hymn in my head.
 

NayborBear

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I agree with ya there Polarberry! There certainly seems to be an "uptick" of evil and violence these days! Between the anti-american, anti constitution, anti-Christian, pro-gay, pro-abortion, pro-muslim (who would love nothing better then, the lopping off of ALL heads of non-muslims, in their quest for their global caliphate), it sure looks pretty dismal for a God fearing, God believing people, doesn't it? This scenario also has me wondering why the "rapture people" are still here. lol...Reminds me of a little girl coming upon a little boy sitting on the curb, crying: "I'm cold, and nobody loves me!" To which the little girl replies: "Well?...Jesus loves you!...And you can sit, on your hands!"

Case ya be thinking God has abandoned us? Take heart, Pilgrim! Take Heart! :cool:
 
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The devil as a roaring lion walks about seeking whom he may devour<----WHO resist steadfast in the faith (the system of teaching found in the word)

Jesus, after 40 days of testing that we know nothing about, was tested three more times by Satan....and all three times Jesus quoted scripture and stuck to his "guns" and the devil left him.....

Good example for us as well
 

Zmouth

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Good Christians need to take action and either "try to teach" or "stand up" to Satan and devils. If good Christians don't take action, then Satan (the deceiver and enemy of good) will get away with it's clever deceit because of today's governing laws which allow freedom of speech and don't persecute Satan when it commits it's crafty evil deeds.
So are you claiming that the devil is hiding behind the law?

We cannot wait around for Jesus or God to carry out judgement, we must use what Christ has taught us and teach/save the lost sheep; and rid the world of evil spirits. Take action, save lives, protect the future of humanity from damnation or in science terms "a barbaric hellish Earth". How do we expect to God to take action to help us if we do not take action to help another?
Ever read Luke 4:8, or maybe Matthew 16:23?
 

Prov910

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I guess, or hope, your intent is sincere...........BUT, if you think you or I, or any person can defeat the devil, you might want to do a bit of research of Scripture.......just saying.... There was one guy who decided to take on the devil ..... something to do with a pile of bones........ :) Start there.

I strongly suggest ALL believers wait for Jesus
Job held out against all Satan threw against him.
 
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[video=youtube;US1-R-R9lYQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1-R-R9lYQ[/video]
 

Joidevivre

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Polarberry, the first action all Christians need to take is INTERCESSION concerning the wickedness in the world. Prayer can bring down strongholds!

It is from the presence of Jesus in prayer that determines any action you take because you would only be working with Him. Sometimes you will be directed to speak the truth - sometimes you will be directed to do nothing. And never forget that Jesus defeated Satan and took away his power at the cross.

A lot of the evil you see in the world also comes from man's own greed and lust. His own heart.
 
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Young's Literal Translation
"for what the law was not able to do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, His own Son having sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, did condemn the sin in the flesh," Rom 8:3

Young's Literal Translation
"Seeing, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, he himself also in like manner did take part of the same, that through death he might destroy him having the power of death -- that is, the devil --


[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To "condemn sin in the flesh" and to "destroy the devil in the flesh" are the same thing.

[/FONT]"I was alive apart from law once, and the command having come, the sin revived, and I died; 10and the command that [is] for life, this was found by me for death; 11for the sin, having received an opportunity, through the command, did deceive me, and through it did slay [me]; 12so that the law, indeed, [is] holy, and the command holy, and righteous, and good." Rom 7

"if what I do not will, this I do, I consent to the law that [it is] good, 17and now it is no longer I that work it, but the sin dwelling in me, 18for I have known that there doth not dwell in me, that is, in my flesh, good: for to will is present with me, and to work that which is right I do not find, 19for the good that I will, I do not; but the evil that I do not will, this I practise. 20[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And if what I do not will, this I do,[/FONT] it is no longer I that work it, but the sin that is dwelling in me."[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Rom 7[/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In order for Christ to condemn and destroy the devil by his own death, sin and the devil must have existed in Christ's flesh.

Therefore, when the Bible says that "in him was no sin", it means that Christ personally committed no sin, and not that sin or the devil did not exist in his flesh. But just as all men sinned in Adam, so did Christ. The death sentence pronounced against Adam had dominion also over Christ.

Christ was baptized for the remission of sins because he shared the same sinful flesh as the rest of man.

[/FONT] "I behold another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of the sin that [is] in my members. 24A wretched man I [am]! who shall deliver me out of the body of this death? 25I thank God — through Jesus Christ our Lord; so then, I myself indeed with the mind do serve the law of God, and with the flesh, the law of sin.

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When Christ died so did the body of sin and death.....that is, Christ destroyed the devil and condemned the body of sin and death in his own flesh when he made himself a sacrifice for sin. Having himself personally committing no sin. God has accepted Christ sacrifice for us.[/FONT]
 
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Polarberry, the first action all Christians need to take is INTERCESSION concerning the wickedness in the world. Prayer can bring down strongholds!

It is from the presence of Jesus in prayer that determines any action you take because you would only be working with Him. Sometimes you will be directed to speak the truth - sometimes you will be directed to do nothing. And never forget that Jesus defeated Satan and took away his power at the cross.

A lot of the evil you see in the world also comes from man's own greed and lust. His own heart.
I would say that ALL evil in the world comes from the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life.

"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." 1 John 2:16


Young's Literal Translation
Crooked is the heart above all things, And it is incurable -- who doth know it? Jer 17:9

God knows the heart!
 

Nehemiah6

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Good Christians need to take action and either "try to teach" or "stand up" to Satan and devils. If good Christians don't take action, then Satan (the deceiver and enemy of good) will get away with it's clever deceit because of today's governing laws which allow freedom of speech and don't persecute Satan when it commits it's crafty evil deeds.

We cannot wait around for Jesus or God to carry out judgement, we must use what Christ has taught us and teach/save the lost sheep; and rid the world of evil spirits. Take action, save lives, protect the future of humanity from damnation or in science terms "a barbaric hellish Earth". How do we expect to God to take action to help us if we do not take action to help another?
Human beings cannot rid the world of evil spirits. Also the future of humanity is bleak at best, and what is urgently needed is for the true Gospel to be preached as far and wide as possible, so that sinners are saved from the wrath to come. So you might want to study this matter a little more through Scripture. God does have a plan to deal with Satan and his evil spirits, but not in the way you have suggested.
 

p_rehbein

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Did Job hold out? OR, did God preserve him?

Did Job never question, complain, cry out, or grow angry?

Was it Job? Or was it He who perfected his Faith who held out?

Did God have to call Job down? Did God have to have a wee talk with Job? did Job have to repent for his words?

Just saying............


Job held out against all Satan threw against him.