Which view do you believe and can you say why?
I say Monergism and my reasons is this:
1.When Jesus said you have to be born again, the man who he was speaking to i think realized that Jesus means you cant birth yourself.
2.If Jesus only made salvation possible to all, is it possible that nobody would be saved? If everyone just failed to believe and obey enough? i think not because revelation says from all tribes and languages etc.
3.Bible says God works in us to will and do His good pleasure.
4.In acts it says all who were preordained to eternal life believed.
5.How can someone who is dead in trespasses and sins revive himself? And would he even want to?
If you disagree with my points say why you dont like them and whats wrong.
If you you think synergism is right also tell me why its right with verses.
Issue
I'm going to point out a logical error in ONE commonly stated argument from the monergist camp, and I'm going to point out why it's a logically incorrect argument.
Before I do, I want to point out 2 things:
1. I respect my Calvinist brothers, and consider their views both well-intended and well within orthodoxy, although I disagree with some points.
2. I'm going to point out 1 logical error with 1 argument they make; this does have the weight to refute all of their contentions, and it's not intended to.
Logical Error:
A. Here is the Monergist Argument:
"If Jesus only made salvation possible to all, is it possible that nobody would be saved?"
B. Here is the logical error.
1. This argument simply misrepresents the Arminian position by making presumptions, making "straw man" presumptions, about the Arminian position, which the Arminians do not hold to.
(Both sides often do this.)
2. The presumption is: the Arminian camp believes God is entirely removed from the salvation process, and that God is impotent to plan, lead, direct, or foresee the salvation process.
3. This is a wrong presumption. This is not the Arminian view, and so this presumption merely creates a straw man to attack, rather to attack the real Arminian position.
4. The philosophical Arminian view is this:
a.) God has perfect foreknowledge and thus the divine ability of PERFECT PLANNING: and he did NOT create man, or the world, in a manner in which no one would want to be saved.
b.) God could have created man in an infinite number of different ways, and he could have created the world in an infinite number of different ways, and he could have chosen to interact and reveal himself to us in an infinite different number of ways... but he did not.
c.) God created us in a very particular way, and created the world in a very particular way, and chose to interact with us in very particular ways... all with the planning, foreknowledge, and providence, to reconcile fallen creatures to himself.
5. Thus, with God's perfect foreknowledge, perfect planning, and perfect divine providence... it is NOT possible for God to have "accidentally" created a world in which no one would choose to be saved.
6. So, even if Calvism IS the correct theological position, this particular argument simply DOES NOT WORK as a logical refutation.
Conclusion:
A. It is perfectly reasonable for the Calvinist to debate, question, and find fault with, the Arminian positions.
B. However, this logically requires them to first articulate the ACTUAL Arminian positions.
C. The particular argument I mentioned here does NOT articulate the actual Arminian position, but rather creates a "straw man" position, a false position, and then attacks this false position.
* In all fairness, both sides are constantly doing the same thing.