Why Does Jesus Need To Have the Keys of Hell?

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Why does Jesus need to have the keys of hell?

Revelation 1:[SUP]17 [/SUP]And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:[SUP]18 [/SUP]I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

It stands to reason to me is so that He can take away the penalty of hell and the second death away from all those who believe in Him.

John 3:[SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.[SUP] 17 [/SUP]For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 6:[SUP]39 [/SUP]And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.[SUP]40 [/SUP]And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So salvation is never at risk to lose, but God will be judging His House first at the pre trib rapture event to excommunicate those found in iniquity from attending the marriage Supper but they will be received later on after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House testifying to the power of God in salvation for all those that believe even in His name.

That is why the call is given out to saved believers that live in sin without repentance and those who have erred from the truth that have stopped believing in him to depart from iniquity by going before that throne of grace for help to see the truth in His words in the KJV Bible to discern good & evil by Him, so they can call on Him for help to depart from iniquity.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

Hebrews 4:[SUP]12 [/SUP]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.[SUP]15 [/SUP]For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Philippians 1:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:[SUP] 7 [/SUP]Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart; inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.[SUP] 8 [/SUP]For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ.[SUP] 9 [/SUP]And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;[SUP] 10 [/SUP]That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.[SUP] 11 [/SUP]Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

2 Timothy 4:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

So believe in Him as your Saviour that you are saved no matter what because Jesus has the keys to hell and to the second death, but do believe in Him as your Good Shepherd that He will help you live that reconciled relationship with God through Himself. It is written that the just shall live by faith... in Him and all His promises to us, so trust Him today to deliver you from your sins and to keep you from them so that by His grace & by His help, you will be received as a vessel unto honor at the pre trib rapture event to attend the Marriage Supper as we shall give thanks in His honor & to His glory.

Psalm 33:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Behold, the eye of the Lord is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;[SUP] 19 [/SUP]To deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]Our soul waiteth for the Lord: he is our help and our shield.[SUP] 21 [/SUP]For our heart shall rejoice in him, because we have trusted in his holy name.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Let thy mercy, O Lord, be upon us, according as we hope in thee.

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Jesus IS the key which unlocked the door to hades
and eternal death. He is also the door :)
 

trofimus

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Why does Jesus need to have the keys of hell?

Revelation 1:[SUP]17 [/SUP]And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:[SUP]18 [/SUP]I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

It stands to reason to me is so that He can take away the penalty of hell and the second death away from all those who believe in Him.
Another example of why not to use the KJV. It translates various different words all as "hell".

"I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades." NIV
 
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Jesus IS the key which unlocked the door to hades
and eternal death. He is also the door :)
I see Him as having the keys to lock the doors to hell and to the second death for all those who believe in Him whereas He is the door by which all who believe in Him shall enter to have eternal life with God for ever.
 

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Another example of why not to use the KJV. It translates various different words all as "hell".

"I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades." NIV
Hades is less offensive...and we don't want to offend...
 

trofimus

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Hades is less offensive...and we don't want to offend...
Hello, long time not to see you :)

First, hades is what is in the original text. It does not mean flames or torturing.
 
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Another example of why not to use the KJV. It translates various different words all as "hell".

"I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades." NIV
The example you have given does not prove your point when hades and hell is the same thing.

Luke 17:[SUP]32 [/SUP]Remember Lot's wife.[SUP] 33 [/SUP]Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.[SUP] 34 [/SUP]I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.[SUP]35 [/SUP]Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.[SUP] 36 [/SUP]Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.[SUP]37 [/SUP]And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together. KJV

Luke 17:[SUP]37 [/SUP]“Where, Lord?” they asked.He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” NIV

In the context of the message, in remembering Lot's wife is not to stay behind in favor of this life we are living on earth; thus a taking away at the pre trib rapture event is to escape the coming fiery judgment on the earth that will serve as a catalyst for the new world order and the mark of the beast system for the coming great tribulation.

The NIV inputs "dead" to the body "of believers" that will be taken and switched out eagles to vultures and have completely changed the message given by Jesus, and thus a lie. Indeed, because of this lie, some false teachers argue that there will be no pre trib rapture but a taking away of evil people instead, and thus ignoring the context in regards to Lot's wife.

You decide if you want to quibble over wordings like hades as better than hell to favor the NIV over the KJV, or if you prefer now to have the truth in His words to not change the message He wants us to have which has been maintained in the KJV.
 
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Hello, long time not to see you :)

First, hades is what is in the original text. It does not mean flames or torturing.
Remember the parable of the rich man and the beggar, Lazarus? Regardless of what version you use if they switched out hell with hades, the conditions is the same ... fire and torture.

Luke 16:[SUP]22 [/SUP]“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. [SUP]23[/SUP]In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. [SUP]24 [/SUP]So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire. NIV

So hades and hell is one and the same even in the NIV, but the NIV does not maintain the message as the KJV does in truth as explained in post # 8 of this thread about Luke 17:37 as to why the NIV has it, is a lie.
 

trofimus

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I think that both Lazarus and the rich man were in hades. Only in a different state.

I think Hades is more general term, while you can be in a torment or in a paradise and still be in Hades...

Also, notice that the rich man was able to see Abraham and Lazarus, to speak with them etc. You think it will be possible in the final hell of torture?
 
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I think that both Lazarus and the rich man were in hades. Only in a different state.

I think Hades is more general term, while you can be in a torment or in a paradise and still be in Hades...

Also, notice that the rich man was able to see Abraham and Lazarus, to speak with them etc. You think it will be possible in the final hell of torture?
Here's the great thing about the Bible. It does all the thinking for us. The rich man was in hell fire and Lazarus was across the great gulf in Abraham's bosom, paradise.
 

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Because, like Robin Hood, he stole the keys back from Satan. Jesus says “First you must tie up a strong man, then you can rob his house.” He wasn’t teaching us how to become robbers lol, satan was the strong man, Jesus overpowered him, and made off with his keys and possessions (us). We are now free because Jesus ‘set the captives free’. If you are not in Christ, you must fear, because He has the keys (power) to send you to hell for all eternity.

”Oh death, where is your sting?”
 
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Here's the great thing about the Bible. It does all the thinking for us. The rich man was in hell fire and Lazarus was across the great gulf in Abraham's bosom, paradise.
And they both were in hades.
 
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Because, like Robin Hood, he stole the keys back from Satan. Jesus says “First you must tie up a strong man, then you can rob his house.” He wasn’t teaching us how to become robbers lol, satan was the strong man, Jesus overpowered him, and made off with his keys and possessions (us). We are now free because Jesus ‘set the captives free’. If you are not in Christ, you must fear, because He has the keys (power) to send you to hell for all eternity.

”Oh death, where is your sting?”
I believe Jesus is the One that has power to save sinners from hell since by not believing in Him, sinners are condemned already to hell.

John 3:[SUP]15 [/SUP]That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.[SUP] 16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.[SUP]17 [/SUP]For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Sin has separated mankind from God and death is the ultimate separation from all that is good Whom is God which death is the penalty of for our sins.

Jesus came into the world to save sinners that are on their way to hell. Jesus does not need to send them there. Sin does that.

However, Jesus will judge all the remaining living after Satan has his last staged rebellion for a small season after His millennium reign on earth when Jesus will also judge the rest of the dead at the great white throne judgment because He will be sending those whose names are not found in the Book of Life to the second death which is the lake of fire.

Also He will cast death & hell into it as well at that time too along with Satan and his angels.
 

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First, hades is what is in the original text. It does not mean flames or torturing.
Yes, the Greek has Hades, but that does not mean that there are no flames and torment in Hades. Indeed they are the precursor to the Lake of Fire. And this is definitely NOT an excuse to denigrate the KJV, but to turn to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and check it out (as all diligent students should). It seems that you take every opportunity to put down the KJV, which is indeed the Word of God. So you are not attacking just a translation, but Holy Scriptures.

Coming back to the OP, those "keys" to Hades are obviously metaphorical (as are "the gates" of Hades), and represent Christ's authority over the inhabitants of Hades and over Hades itself. Until the resurrection, the Old Testament saints were in one *compartment" in Sheol/Hades, and separated by a wide chasm or gulf from the unsaved dead (who were in torment as we see in the narrative of the Rich Man and Lazarus). Following the resurrection of Christ, all the OT saints were taken to the New Jerusalem, but the unsaved remained in Hades. So this is one event at which Christ used the "keys" of Hades to unlock the saints who were held captive there. "He led captivity captive" refers to this event.

However, after the Millennium, Christ will again use the "keys" of Hades to bring out all the unsaved dead to the Great White Throne Judgment, where they will experience the "resurrection of damnation". They will stand before Christ, the books will be opened, and they will be judged according to their works. After that they will be cast into the Lake of Fire, since their names will not be found in the Lamb's Book of Life.

And at this point both death and Hades will be metaphorically cast into the Lake of Fire, since there will be no more death on earth, neither will there be any unsaved on earth, hence no need for a Hades to accommodate the souls and spirits of the unsaved. That is because the New Heavens and the New Earth will be established in righteousness for all eternity.
 

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It's where the bathroom is?

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Is there going to be a day when people who have been long dead (as well as everyone else) is raised to face a judgement?

Did you answer "Yes."?

Then, how are people who have not been judged yet consigned to go to either good places, or bad places, while they await that day? (I see nowhere in the Bible that says it is, instead, just a "sentencing day.")
 

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Is there going to be a day when people who have been long dead (as well as everyone else) is raised to face a judgement?

Did you answer "Yes."?

Then, how are people who have not been judged yet consigned to go to either good places, or bad places, while they await that day? (I see nowhere in the Bible that says it is, instead, just a "sentencing day.")
The way to understand the final judgment is to see all the unsaved from the time after creation to the time after the Millennium as having been held in Sheol/Hades for the final judgment. Actually the sentence begins while people are living, and it is carried out upon death. As it is appointed unto man ONCE to die, and after this the judgment.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:18).

 
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Jesus having the keys means He conquered death,and hell,by resurrecting from the grave,and ascending to heaven,which opened the door for all people that accept Him to conquer death,and hell,and resurrect to heaven.