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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 11:4, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is in His holy temple; [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:36, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Yah you may receive what is promised.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:3-4, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father. And YHWH will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:36, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Yah you may receive what is promised.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:3-4, "And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father. And YHWH will wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there will be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor will there be any more pain, for the former things have passed away.”[/FONT]
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If that is true, then I'd rather there be no second life. If eternity gets more difficult than this, no thank you. That's not a gift. That's a curse.
On the other hand, I do think this life is God's way of having us ready for the next one. But it's more like turning a pig pen into a palace. Or a pig into a princess.
On the other hand, I do think this life is God's way of having us ready for the next one. But it's more like turning a pig pen into a palace. Or a pig into a princess.
Isaiah 40:6-8, “The voice said, “Cry out!” and he said, “What do I cry?” “All flesh is grass, and all its loving-commitment is like the flower of the field. Grass shall wither, the flower shall fade, when the Spirit of יהוה has blown on it! Truly the people is grass! Grass shall wither, the flower shall fade, but the Word of our Strength stands forever.”
1 John 2:17, “And the world passes away, and the lust of it, but the one doing the desire of Yah remains forever.”
1 John 2:17, “And the world passes away, and the lust of it, but the one doing the desire of Yah remains forever.”
It's hard to say what this life—and even the whole world and all of humanity—is all about. Everybody just assumes that it's all about us. But maybe we (humans) were created for some benefit of another. For example, perhaps we were created as a lesson to, or as a conviction of, the fallen angels. (I'm just spittballing here. Purely non-bible based surmising.)
So I guess in the mean time we just have to live this life to the best of our ability. And if we do, we can ask The Creator what it's all about.
So I guess in the mean time we just have to live this life to the best of our ability. And if we do, we can ask The Creator what it's all about.
M
Indeed. This verse assumes that one of those "things" the that people have done is to put their faith in Christ and be justified by grace through faith. But this is a whole other issue for which there is a "not by works" thread. And I am all ears for new insights by people who do not purport to be speaking for God!
Indeed. This verse assumes that one of those "things" the that people have done is to put their faith in Christ and be justified by grace through faith. But this is a whole other issue for which there is a "not by works" thread. And I am all ears for new insights by people who do not purport to be speaking for God!
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My hands are the Lord’s hands
without me how can His work be done?
I will do what He would do, with loving kindness in my touch,
I’ll be His healing hands to everyone.
My feet are the Lord’s feet
without me how can He walk with the poor
I will go where He would go, blessing others as I do,
for Him I’ll walk where I’ve never walked before
My mouth is the Lord’s mouth
without me how can His voice be heard?
I will say what He would say, speaking love and life each day,
and everyone who’s near will hear His words
Help me Lord, help me give to my neighbor
what You would give if You were here
Help me Lord, let me live so my neighbor
will always know that You are near
M
I think in the context of the book it was meant that things really begin on the other side of eternity. However, I am hesitant to mention the books name because I do not want to start a whole new debate, but the book I read it in was "The purpose driven life", by Rick Warren. I have since come to repudiate much of what he teaches but for some reason that one line stuck.
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John 6: Verily verily I say unto you
He who believeth in Me, hath eternal life.
So Jesus puts that in the present so that we know we have
it here and now. So that refers to the quality of life that we
have when we accept Jesus and follow Him every day. It
is not something illusive that we might find one day or something
we might earn one day, directly it means today. At the same
time it means we need to believe today, here and now. For
us, Christianity becomes a lifestyle everyday. This is not to
please God but it will, but it is so our lives can be lived in an
abundantly powerful joy. That is why Jesus came and that is
to conquer death. Previous to the risen Lord, we had nowhere
to go; just to live and then die. Now we have a life that makes
the promise of eternity. So what are we waiting for. Lord,
your will and not mine be done.
He who believeth in Me, hath eternal life.
So Jesus puts that in the present so that we know we have
it here and now. So that refers to the quality of life that we
have when we accept Jesus and follow Him every day. It
is not something illusive that we might find one day or something
we might earn one day, directly it means today. At the same
time it means we need to believe today, here and now. For
us, Christianity becomes a lifestyle everyday. This is not to
please God but it will, but it is so our lives can be lived in an
abundantly powerful joy. That is why Jesus came and that is
to conquer death. Previous to the risen Lord, we had nowhere
to go; just to live and then die. Now we have a life that makes
the promise of eternity. So what are we waiting for. Lord,
your will and not mine be done.