SEE YOURSELF IN CHRIST

joaniemarie · Oct 23, 2017

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[TD="class: yiv2549727069mcnTextContent"][h=2]- OCTOBER 23 -
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I remember going through a terrible time of depression when I was 18 years old. Believing that I was demon-possessed, I sought out a great man of God to have him cast the devil out of me. But when this man of God laid hands on me, he began to prophesy over me. He said, “Joe, I see you preaching to thousands and used by God to impact thousands of lives. Joe, you are called by God and the devil is attempting to stop you.”

“What? I came here for deliverance! I am only interested in saving my own life, not preaching nor impacting lives,” I thought to myself then.

You see, what happened was that at that moment, God allowed this man to step into the timeless zone He exists in to bring my future before me. As far as God was concerned, my future had already happened, though I was only 18 years old then. Today, I am a pastor of a church which has more than 30,000 members. Today, I am seeing what was told to me long ago.

God does not see as we see. Abraham was a childless, 100-year-old man. His wife, Sarah, at 90 years old, was doubly dead in her womb. (Genesis 17:17) Yet, God saw him and talked to him as if he were already the father of many nations.

My friend, God wants you to see the way He sees. Right now, you may see yourself going through a trial in your marriage, work, finances or health. But God sees a blessed marriage, success at work, supernatural provision and a healed body because He tells you that you are already blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ.

You see, God sees you in Christ. So when you see yourself in Christ, who is outside time, you step into the timeless zone. In that timeless zone in Christ, whatever needs and trials of yours are already removed, repaired, restored or resurrected! In that timeless zone in Christ, you are already blessed with
every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places!

Destined To Reign Daily Devotional by Pastor Joseph Prince

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Depleted · Oct 23, 2017

Yup, self is still the center of all. Don't look for Christ as the center. "See yourself in Christ." And why?

"But God sees a blessed marriage, success at work, supernatural provision and a healed body because He tells you that you are already blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ."

ME is the center, yet again!

Don't buy this crap, those who are new in Christ. It really is about the Lord being center, not what we can suck out of him.

Joidevivre · Oct 23, 2017

It is when we see Christ in us that brings forth a new perspective of ourselves.

I am no longer just me. It also shows me that when I DO go through trials and suffering, He is with me.

Zmouth · Oct 23, 2017

While I have listened to the Pastor Prince many times, that being many years back it still did not cause me to stop saying that blessed is him that comes in the name of the LORD. But the events described in the article seem double sided.

I recall reading a story a few years back a newly hired preacher had opened his home to a young man and woman almost immediately after moving into the residence provided the preacher as he was beginning his new leadership position with the Church.

A week after the young couple was observed residing at the minister's home, several members of congregation begin complaining to the Church elders that they did not approve of their new preacher allowing a unmarried couple staying in the residence of the minister since it was being provided to him by the Church.

They said it just looked wrong since the young couple was not married. When the complaint reached the preacher about the young couple staying in his private residence, even if in different rooms, he advised the congregation the young couple was participating in the intense marriage counseling program the new minister was developing to prepare couples for marriage. The church elders shortly afterwards approved the marriage of the young couple and the marriage was conducted by an associate pastor and while almost all the congregation attended the ceremony on the day of the wedding.

Everything was good until the congregation found out shortly aftewards the marriage that the young couple were actually the biological children of the their new Preacher, albeit they were born of different mothers. Since the word of the LORD is forever settled in heaven, if one would agree to receiving the promise of God as heirs to the seed of Abraham and Sarah then what is the problem if siblings are married?

Nehemiah6 · Oct 23, 2017

BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS AND FALSE TEACHERS: More False Teaching from Joseph Prince

1. Is this addressed to only those who are children of God, or is it addressed to anyone and everyone?
2. Will all those who read this message from Prince be genuine Christians, or will at least some be unsaved?
3. Is it the moral and spiritual duty of a preacher to preface his remarks on this passage by clearly stating that it applies exclusively to God’s people?

So this would imply that Prince was not saved at this point, and even believed that he might have been demon possessed.

Did this “man of God” have a duty to address the issue of Prince’s demon-possession and salvation, or was he just a fortune teller?

Well since Prince has been exposed by many as a false teacher (and continues with his false teachings), what does this “prophecy” suggest? And where do false doctrines originate, according to Scripture?

This was the correct response, but Prince does not tell us as to what happened regarding the possibility of him being demon possessed, and how the issue of his salvation was addressed.

Not only is he bragging here, but he is also indicating that this “man of God” was stepping into “eternity” to “prophesy” about him. We do not see any Scriptural support for such phenomenon. And imagine 30,000 people being deceived by Prince!

Yes. That is God’s prerogative, since only He knows the end from the beginning.

And here is where the false teaching begins. Prince does not say "My friend, IF you have been saved by grace, and are a child of God, God wants you to see yourself as He sees you" (not *the way He sees*, since only God sees the end from the beginning). When a man fails to address the spiritual condition of his hearers (or readers), assuming that everyone is already in Christ, and then suggests that a mere mortal can see things as God sees, is he not a false teacher?

Even more false teaching. Now Prince has converted spiritual blessings into material blessings, and is preaching the Prosperity Gospel. There is no guarantee whatsoever that children of God will have (a) a blessed marriage, (b) success at work, (c) supernatural provision, and (d) a healed body. Scripture tells us that we will suffer persecution, and also suffer in many other ways, and the sufferings of the apostle Paul are presented to us as an example of Christian suffering. Indeed, what Scripture says is that in spite of all the disasters we will encounter, nothing will separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

That is seven ways in which disasters can hit Christians. This is the opposite of the Prosperity Gospel. So why did Prince fail to bring this to the attention of his readers, and instead preach another gospel? Does that not make him a false preacher and teacher?

Prince fails to say "God sees you in Christ IF indeed you are in Christ. If you are NOT a child of God you need to repent and obey the Gospel" (since not all readers will be in Christ, and no preacher can assume that)

This is TOTALLY FALSE, since right at this moment there are thousands of Christians being persecuted, tortured, and killed for their faith. So what Prince is preaching is a Magic Wand Gospel, where everything is just peachy. He does not say that after Christians have been resurrected and glorified, and are in Heaven, THEN all their trials and tribulations will be over.

This sounds more like New Age philosophy than Bible truth.This is clearly a misrepresentation of the meaning of "all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ Jesus".

To understand this properly, we can turn to Matthew Henry's Commentary (as one example) and see how proper exegesis and exposition of this verse is handled:
Those whom God blesses with some he blesses with all spiritual blessings; to whom he gives Christ, he freely gives all these things. It is not so with temporal blessings; some are favoured with health, and not with riches; some with riches, and not with health, etc.
But, where God blesses with spiritual blessings, he blesses with all. They are spiritual blessings in heavenly places; that is, say some, in the church, distinguished from the world, and called out of it. Or it may be read, in heavenly things, such as come from heaven, and are designed to prepare men for it, and to secure their reception into it.
We should hence learn to mind spiritual and heavenly things as the principal things, spiritual and heavenly blessings as the best blessings, with which we cannot be miserable and without which we cannot but be so. Set not your affections on things on the earth, but on those things which are above. These we are blessed with in Christ; for, as all our services ascend to God through Christ, so all our blessings are conveyed to us in the same way, he being the Mediator between God and us.
The particular spiritual blessings with which we are blessed in Christ, and for which we ought to bless God, are (many of them) here enumerated and enlarged upon.
1. Election and predestination, which are the secret springs whence the others flow, v. 4, v. 5, v. 11. Election, or choice, respects that lump or mass of mankind out of which some are chosen, from which they are separated and distinguished. Predestination has respect to the blessings they are designed for; particularly the adoption of children, it being the purpose of God that in due time we should become his adopted children, and so have a right to all the privileges and to the inheritance of children...
He acts in pursuance of his eternal purpose in bestowing spiritual blessings upon his people. He hath blessed us —according as he hath chosen us in him, in Christ the great head of the election, who is emphatically called God’s elect, his chosen; and in the chosen Redeemer an eye of favour was cast upon them.

Observe here one great end and design of this choice: chosen-that we should be holy; not because he foresaw they would be holy, but because he determined to make them so. All who are chosen to happiness as the end are chosen to holiness as the means. Their sanctification, as well as their salvation, is the result of the counsels of divine love.—And without blame before him —that their holiness might not be merely external and in outward appearance, so as to prevent blame from men, but internal and real, and what God himself, who looketh at the heart, will account such, such holiness as proceeds from love to God and to our fellow-creatures, this charity being the principle of all true holiness.

2. The next spiritual blessing the apostle takes notice of is acceptance with God through Jesus Christ: Wherein, or by which grace, he hath made us accepted in the beloved, v. 6. Jesus Christ is the beloved of his Father (Mt. 3:17 ), as well as of angels and saints. It is our great privilege to be accepted of God, which implies his love to us and his taking us under his care and into his family. We cannot be thus accepted of God, but in and through Jesus Christ. He loves his people for the sake of the beloved.

3. Remission of sins, and redemption through the blood of Jesus, v. 7. No remission without redemption. It was by reason of sin that we were captivated, and we cannot be released from our captivity but by the remission of our sins. This redemption we have in Christ, and this remission through his blood. The guilt and the stain of sin could be no otherwise removed than by the blood of Jesus. All our spiritual blessings flow down to us in that stream. This great benefit, which comes freely to us, was dearly bought and paid for by our blessed Lord; and yet it is according to the riches of God’s grace.

{This is just a brief glimpse, since there is much more in the epistle to the Ephesians].

unobtrusive · Oct 23, 2017

Depleted said:

Yup, you're right!

See Christ as He truly is first, and then things will come together the right way. We are nothing. He is everything! Stop focusing on self.

joaniemarie · Oct 23, 2017

I listen to preachers and teachers who point me to Jesus. Andrew Wommack and Pastor J.Prince and writers like Paul Ellis. I'm more in agreement with their focus on the righteousness of God IN Christ than some of the main stream pastors and teachers. But I'm not alone. My approach to the Lord is much different than it was 5 yrs ago and it's because It was not pointing to Jesus but to myself instead... how much "I" was doing and how well "I" was doing. Now the focus is on how much JESUS has done.

I needed to change my thinking and these Christians and others who focused on the love of God IN Christ helped me. Here is part of an article by Paul Ellis talking about prayer and how he has learned to pray differently than he used to. Paul took some advice from a book written by A. Wommack. I like to hear about how Christians are growing in Christ and how the Holy Spirit is teaching them more and more about the ways of God.

When you are faced with a mountain-sized problem, the temptation is to run and tell God all about it. But He already knows about your problem and He’s already provided everything you need to overcome it. Perhaps you need healing. He has already provided it (1 Pe 2:24). Perhaps you need finances. Already done (2 Co 8:9). As usual, your heavenly Father is a million steps ahead of you.

Don’t talk to God about your mountain; talk to your mountain about God! Okay, so what do you say? How do you talk to a mountain? Well you could talk about your mighty King whose name is above every name (Ph 2:9). Your mountain has a name. Cancer has a name. Depression has a name. God has commanded that all these things must bow to the name of Jesus (Ph 2:10). Wommack suggests you could pray like this:

“Father, thank You that Your name is above every name… These things the doctor told me are in my body have names. You are above them all! Thank You that You are greater, stronger, and more powerful than all of this.” (pp.33-34)

Notice how we have begun by focusing on our mighty Father and not the problem. In small groups there is a temptation to gather around our problems, but in that way lies death. We are to gather around the name of Jesus. Sometimes this is not easy! When we’ve heard bad news there is often a battle between fear and faith. We have to strive to enter His rest. But don’t pray while you are full of fear. Fear will get you speaking worry and negativity turning your prayers into words of death. “What he says will happen,” said Jesus. So watch your words and take care where you put your faith.

The best thing to do with your anxieties is cast them on the Lord (Ps 55:22). Fortify your mind by declaring God’s promises to yourself. When I’m battling with a bad report my two favorite words are, “Surely He…” (Is 53:4). He surely did! Praise Him for it. Then when faith has risen in your heart, you are ready to deal with the problem:

“Father, this is so small in comparison to what You’re able to do. I shouldn’t even have to ask, but the doctor did say I’m going to die. So since Jesus has already provided my healing, I’ll just receive it!” (p.34)

joaniemarie · Oct 23, 2017

One of the key factors is seeing Jesus and what He has done and not what we are doing or what we have done. That is what this OP is about. Seeing ourselves IN Christ is the first thing. Apart from Him we can do nothing.
In Christ we have been blessed with EVERY spiritual blessing. But how to access those promises is a life of living by grace through faith. And I'm seeing that is a life long process of yes... JOYFUL living and JOYFUL expectations of what He will do next.

And yes., I'm not on the same page as some of you who have posted here. But that is OK and actually a good thing.

joaniemarie · Oct 23, 2017

continued....

Traditional: Faith moves God.
Biblical: Faith moves mountains.

God has supplied everything you need by grace (Eph 1:3). Faith doesn’t move God to do what He’s already done; faith moves mountains. Praise the Lord for carrying all your infirmities on the cross and then command your mountain to bow to Jesus. Jesus said all authority on heaven and earth had been given to Him (Mt 28:18). He has jurisdiction everywhere and there is no place your mountain can hide from His authority. The problem you are confronting may be the result of a generational curse, bad DNA, bad behavior or whatever. It doesn’t matter. Jesus is Lord. Period. When we pray in Jesus’ name, we are re-presenting His cross-wrought victory and His irresistible authority:

“I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.” (Lk 10:19)

Have faith in God and speak to your mountain! “Rebuke with all authority” (Tit 2:15) and send it into the sea.

In Part 3 of this study, I want to look at how we can respond when our prayers seem to go unanswered. Stay tuned!

I'm in agreement with this kind of praying and it is the kind of praying that has worked for me as well. I'm aware that many here do not pray this way but that will not deter me from doing so. We each have to make up our own minds on how close we want to be with Jesus. How much we will believe and how far we will be willing to go. No one can make that choice for us.

joaniemarie · Oct 23, 2017

Another testimony of someone set free from the law of sin and death;

Jesus sets me free when I see him and realise what kind of relationship he wants with us. His kindness heals my heart and makes me break down in tears of joy and freedom, if only I would face him and give in trying to earn his kindness that he wants so much to give us freely.

For me, though I often forget, coming to the end of my self is the best place I could ever be and have ever been, cuz its where I finally give up on thinking I can earn anything with God, realise I deserve nothing, but then accept and receive all his love he has for me, its just the most awesome place to be and its just behind words!

But thats what I call coming to the end of yourself, and I really think that thats what Jesus was meaning when he said “Take up the cross *daily* and follow me” I think he was showing us the way to his love and freedom. Cuz, whenever I try and get anywhere with God myself I always seem to drive myself away from him, but when I stop, realise and acknowledge the futility of my striving, give up, and believe in his goodness, I experience the joy of the Lord and am set free to love him once again. Yeah!

Amen and Amen!!! Another believer who rests in the love of God IN Christ and realized the futility of striving in their own power. That is what the OP is talking about.

Blain · Oct 23, 2017

What does it mean to (See)? A major thing I have always struggled with is how I see myself, I have always had low self esteem and never saw myself as anything special or good no matter how much I wished I could at least see a little of that in me. Many follow the same train of thought and believe it to be humbleness but there is a difference between being humble and just putting yourself down, countless times we told in the scriptures how we are righteous and beloved how we are the ambassadors of his kingdom how we are the pride of his heart and I don't think he would have told us that if we were not to believe it.

Our perspective of everything is flawed we do not see as he does and nor do we follow the same train of thought as he does and thus we tend to see and think opposite of him. Trust me there is nothing worse than loathing everything about you that isn't him wishing you were something your not wishing you were who he seems to see when he looks at you. You see for some people they can see righteousness in themselves they can see holiness and all good things in themselves but when they look at everyone else and everything else they only see corruption and sin and evil of all kinds others however can see through his eyes when they look at everyone even the most evil of sinners they can still see through loves eyes, but when they look at themselves it's the exact opposite.

However this is not how he intended for it to be, far to often we look down on ourselves not truly seeing or understanding, it is not about self to accept and believe what he says of us but it is of self to try to do so by our own strength and worth because we will always be lacking not a single one of us are truly strong or holy nor are we truly wise and faithful apart from him we are weak in every sense of the word and in every way. However that is why we can and will be strong, God knew what he was doing when he made us weak because how beautiful is using the weak to show what true strength is? One thing that I am constantly wanting to rant about is how amazing he is, in my short time of being saved I have seen and learned so much of him the things about him simply astound and amaze me. The way he sees everything in life and in us, his nature and his way of thinking, the smallest little things about him astound me and make me want to be just like that.

I think the spirit of seeing yourself in Christ is like that

CherieR · Oct 23, 2017

joaniemarie said:

I listen to preachers and teachers who point me to Jesus. Andrew Wommack and Pastor J.Prince and writers like Paul Ellis. I'm more in agreement with their focus on the righteousness of God IN Christ than some of the main stream pastors and teachers. But I'm not alone. My approach to the Lord is much different than it was 5 yrs ago and it's because It was not pointing to Jesus but to myself instead... how much "I" was doing and how well "I" was doing. Now the focus is on how much JESUS has done.

I needed to change my thinking and these Christians and others who focused on the love of God IN Christ helped me. Here is part of an article by Paul Ellis talking about prayer and how he has learned to pray differently than he used to. Paul took some advice from a book written by A. Wommack. I like to hear about how Christians are growing in Christ and how the Holy Spirit is teaching them more and more about the ways of God.

When you are faced with a mountain-sized problem, the temptation is to run and tell God all about it. But He already knows about your problem and He’s already provided everything you need to overcome it. Perhaps you need healing. He has already provided it (1 Pe 2:24). Perhaps you need finances. Already done (2 Co 8:9). As usual, your heavenly Father is a million steps ahead of you.

Don’t talk to God about your mountain; talk to your mountain about God! Okay, so what do you say? How do you talk to a mountain? Well you could talk about your mighty King whose name is above every name (Ph 2:9). Your mountain has a name. Cancer has a name. Depression has a name. God has commanded that all these things must bow to the name of Jesus (Ph 2:10). Wommack suggests you could pray like this:

“Father, thank You that Your name is above every name… These things the doctor told me are in my body have names. You are above them all! Thank You that You are greater, stronger, and more powerful than all of this.” (pp.33-34)

Notice how we have begun by focusing on our mighty Father and not the problem. In small groups there is a temptation to gather around our problems, but in that way lies death. We are to gather around the name of Jesus. Sometimes this is not easy! When we’ve heard bad news there is often a battle between fear and faith. We have to strive to enter His rest. But don’t pray while you are full of fear. Fear will get you speaking worry and negativity turning your prayers into words of death. “What he says will happen,” said Jesus. So watch your words and take care where you put your faith.

The best thing to do with your anxieties is cast them on the Lord (Ps 55:22). Fortify your mind by declaring God’s promises to yourself. When I’m battling with a bad report my two favorite words are, “Surely He…” (Is 53:4). He surely did! Praise Him for it. Then when faith has risen in your heart, you are ready to deal with the problem:

“Father, this is so small in comparison to what You’re able to do. I shouldn’t even have to ask, but the doctor did say I’m going to die. So since Jesus has already provided my healing, I’ll just receive it!” (p.34)

God wants your heart. God is a Father to those who put their trust in Jesus. He wants his children to pray to him whatever emotion they feel, including fear. God wants you. He does not want pretense.

Depression is not something that you should generally rebuke. Most of the time, depression is something to be dealt with and it can take some time. It helps to understand the root cause of the depression. There are often beliefs and self talk contributing to depression. There are often lies that people have believed about themselves or life that need to be dealt with and replaced with truth.

joaniemarie · Oct 24, 2017

Blain said:

You are right Blain., there are many of us around. I could easily have written your post. The self esteem part is one I deal with to this day but not like before when it crippled and stopped my life from moving forward. If you don't mind I'd like to share by paragraph of your post.

What does it mean to (See)? A major thing I have always struggled with is how I see myself, I have always had low self esteem and never saw myself as anything special or good no matter how much I wished I could at least see a little of that in me. Many follow the same train of thought and believe it to be humbleness but there is a difference between being humble and just putting yourself down, countless times we told in the scriptures how we are righteous and beloved how we are the ambassadors of his kingdom how we are the pride of his heart and I don't think he would have told us that if we were not to believe it.

Amen brother! There is a key to opening that door. It's learning how to do combat by the spirit in the struggle of seeing ourselves properly and stepping OVER to see what God sees instead of what we see. It can only be done by faith. We walk by faith and not by human sight or feelings.

The world the flesh and the devil will try to stop this process but the Holy Spirit is our Paraclete who comes along side us the whole way. We are not alone (ever) in this process of being transformed by the renewing of our minds

Actually faith believing that God is calling us to see differently and that no matter how much we "feel" unworthy we ARE worthy because He says we are. That is actually trusting Him and honoring His Son when we take the gift of worthiness in Christ. This helps me so much. To know it's His will to change my mind from believing what I think and what others have taught me and instead now learning and believing what His Word says.

We are actually doing His work when we are casting down those strong holds of imaginations and every high thing that sets itself above the knowledge of God. 2 Cor. 10:4-5

[SUP]4 [/SUP]For the weapons of our warfare are not physical [weapons of flesh and blood], but they are mighty before God for the overthrow and destruction of strongholds,
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5 [/SUP][Inasmuch as we] refute arguments and theories and reasonings and every proud and lofty thing that sets itself up against the [true] knowledge of God; and we lead every thought and purpose away captive into the obedience of Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One),

Our poor opinion of ourselves is one of those strong holds of the world the flesh and the devil. They are imaginations that that have been set up against us and put above the knowledge of God. So it's God's will for us to actively be engaged in casting down what we learned here on earth about ourselves and God and how He loves us. Not according to our works BUT according to His love wherewith He loved us....

Many factors came into play that caused us to learn and believe wrong thinking. Our parents maybe or other people who took advantage when we could not fight back in our developing years. It's different for everyone.

His truth is higher than ours and we have to honor Him by believing Him regardless of how we feel. He wants us to know who we are IN Christ and be resting in His love for us. Because there IS a rest for the people of God. He doesn't want us to be wondering or insecure about our position in Christ as beloved sons. He wants us to have a STRONG CONSOLATION in Him. He knows we NEED that to be secure.

Hebrews 6:18-20 (and this is sooooo awesome Blain)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]This was so that, by two unchangeable things [His promise and His oath] in which it is impossible for God ever to prove false or deceive us, we who have fled [to Him] for refuge might have mighty indwelling strength and strong encouragement to grasp and hold fast the hope appointed for us and set before [us].
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19 [/SUP][Now] we have this [hope] as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul [it cannot slip and it cannot [SUP][a][/SUP]break down under whoever steps out upon it—a hope] that reaches [SUP][b][/SUP]farther and enters into [the very certainty of the Presence] within the veil,
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20 [/SUP]Where Jesus has entered in for us [in advance], a Forerunner having become a High Priest forever after the order (with [SUP][c][/SUP]the rank) of Melchizedek.

Because of Jesus who is our forerunner we go in to life as the new creations we are according to how wonderful our Great High Priest is. Not according to our weak flesh but our new born again Spirit born from God and sealed by the Holy Spirit. We are being sanctified the same way we were saved., by grace through faith.

That is major strong consolation when the enemy comes at us and tries to keep us in wrong thinking throwing condemnation and guilt against us for who we are without Jesus (which of course we are no longer without Christ) so the condemnation and guilt and wrong thinking is a LIE we must not believe that lie., we have to believe the truth of what Jesus has done. We have been made the righteousness of God IN Christ.

2 Cor.5:21
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21 [/SUP]For our sake He made Christ [virtually] to be sin Who knew no sin, so that in and through Him we might become [[SUP][a][/SUP]endued with, viewed as being in, and examples of] the righteousness of God [what we ought to be, approved and acceptable and in right relationship with Him, by His goodness]. amplified

[SUP]21 [/SUP]Him who knew no sin he made to be sin on our behalf; that we might become the righteousness of God in him. NAS

An you know., whom the Son has set free is free INDEED.

Over the last 6 yrs I've gotten better at this and have been freed from many phobias. It took many years to get like this so reversing it won't always happen over night for some people. At least it hasn't for me. It's a process., but a good one.

The Holy Spirit is helping us and encouraging us as we are trusting Jesus to be our righteousness and not us trying to be our own righteousness. The more we are seeing Jesus and not us., the more the Holy Spirit keeps showing us more of the truth. And those rivers of living water come flowing in and through us so there is no doubt what is going on.

John 7:38-39 tells how when we trust in Jesus for all., the Holy Spirit is infilling us continually.

[SUP]38 [/SUP]He who believes in Me [who cleaves to and trusts in and relies on Me] as the Scripture has said, From his innermost being shall flow [continuously] springs and rivers of living water.

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39 [/SUP]But He was speaking here of the Spirit, Whom those who believed (trusted, had faith) in Him were afterward to receive. For the [Holy] Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor).

I actually don't remember if it was first the Holy Spirit who gave the faith to believe and cleave to Jesus with total reliance in His ability alone to help me have a sound mind., or if it was my desperate need that shifted into the Holy Spirit taking over. It's like wondering what came first the chicken or the egg.

Jesus has made our position secure for us. It's solid and real. Now we just have to practice the truth by reckoning it to be so and daily hearing it preached and taught and read and repeated over and over and over. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

Not only that.,, the Holy Spirit is right with us ready to show us how to think differently. He has not given us a spirit of fear but of power and love and a SOUND MIND. The Holy Spirit can take our mixed up minds and fix them and make them sound and whole.

Sorry to have gone on here. This topic is close to my heart

and one I gratefully hold to daily and find tons of consolation in continually. I'm sooo sorry for the length of this post!!

laura_charlotte · Oct 24, 2017

Brilliant:

joaniemarie said:

loveme1 · Oct 24, 2017

Was the evil spirit cast out or not?

joaniemarie · Oct 24, 2017

laura_charlotte said:

Hi laura_charlotte! I noticed right away your name is missing your pretty picture!! When did you change your avatar?

laura_charlotte · Oct 24, 2017

joaniemarie said:

Why thankyou Joanne! My fave book in the bible is Joshua and have that cross with Joshua 1:9 as my daily source of encouragement!

Isn't it brilliant! I absolutely love reading your pieces of work and applying them to in my daily walk with the Lord. You are a smashing example of James 2:20. God speed!

joaniemarie · Oct 24, 2017

laura_charlotte said:

Yes it is BRILLIANT!!! Here it is in the Amplified version with the added word "vigorous" ;
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9 [/SUP]Have not I commanded you? Be strong, vigorous, and very courageous. Be not afraid, neither be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.

It's so encouraging to know it's not a suggestion from the Lord but actually a commandment because He knows we NEED to do it daily and be vigorous in doing it because for sure the enemy is out there seeking to devour us. The enemy never stops unless we know how to skillfully use the sword we were given. Only then will he flee.
James 4:6-7
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6 [/SUP]But he giveth [SUP][a][/SUP]more grace. Wherefore the scripture saith, [SUP][b][/SUP]God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace to the humble.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Be subject therefore unto God; but resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

AMEN it's wonderful to know Jesus has given us all things to remain in the victory He died to give us. Thank you for sharing it with me today Charlotte., I just realized you are British? You use fancy pretty words on a daily regular basis in life., words like "brilliant" and "smashing" Soon as I saw the word "smashing" I knew you were not an American LOL. Thank you for using them on me today! Bless you too!

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