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The seed Satan planted and made Grow
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Which one of these groups do you represent , Let us all examine ourself , and walk in the light ...
Satan plan to overthrow the reformation is growing stronger and stronger , but God people will overcome satan false teachers, prophets in the end & along with the beast. If we continue in the Faith in Christ Jesus . The blood of thee martyrs was not spill in vain !!! Mystery Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church.
Doctrine vs false peace
Shalom
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Which one of these groups do you represent , Let us all examine ourself , and walk in the light ...
Satan plan to overthrow the reformation is growing stronger and stronger , but God people will overcome satan false teachers, prophets in the end & along with the beast. If we continue in the Faith in Christ Jesus . The blood of thee martyrs was not spill in vain !!! Mystery Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church.
Doctrine vs false peace
Shalom
False teachers & Leaders have infiltrated the churches , even speaking lies stating that the reformers & the scholar were wrong. For standing up against the Roman Catholic Church ,& her lies. Brethren stand strong for Thee truth in Christ.
Because soon we will have to stand for the faith as they did of long ago.
God bless
Because soon we will have to stand for the faith as they did of long ago.
God bless
October 24-26 , 2017 thee apostate churches in America , will celebrate there alliance with ( Mystery Babylon ) thee Roman Caholic Church.
October 31 , 2017 The Beast ( King of RCC ) along with the apostate churches will declare protest ( protestantism ) is over.
We are witnessing the Deadly head would of the Beast HEALED , this is the time we are to examine ourself if we are in the Faith. For the time is short.
Do not fall for this fake peace of the RCC & The apostate Churches. For History clearly proves , the Roman Catholic Church never Changes, she is like a lepard that cannot change it's spots.
Hold on to what other's were willing to die for , the truth in Jesus Christ .
Shalom
October 31 , 2017 The Beast ( King of RCC ) along with the apostate churches will declare protest ( protestantism ) is over.
We are witnessing the Deadly head would of the Beast HEALED , this is the time we are to examine ourself if we are in the Faith. For the time is short.
Do not fall for this fake peace of the RCC & The apostate Churches. For History clearly proves , the Roman Catholic Church never Changes, she is like a lepard that cannot change it's spots.
Hold on to what other's were willing to die for , the truth in Jesus Christ .
Shalom
It is not only the RCC that is in the wrong but also all the harlot churches that follow the 'mother church'....so I would say that all worldly religious organizations are in ERROR !...all who observe any other day but the ONE sanctified by God !
Maybe the 'Beast is a lot stronger and bigger than we realize !
Maybe the 'Beast is a lot stronger and bigger than we realize !
Luther was anti-semitic. Chief heretic. Lutheran churches are an absolute joke, and it aint no wonder considering the root.
Cant wait for that house of cards to fall!
"We should throw out the Epistle of James from this school (Wittenberg) for it doesn't amount to much. It contains not one syllable about Christ. Nor does it mention Christ expect at the beginning. I maintain that some Jew wrote it who probably heard about Christian people but never encountered any!"
(Sited from: LW-54 424-425)
Do not ask anything of your conscience; and if it speaks, do not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." (Sited from: J. Dollinger, La Reforme et les resultants qu’elle a produits. (Trans. E. Perrot, Paris, Gaume, 1848-49), Vol III, pg. 248)
This guy has so many quotes filled with false teachings and things even atheists dare not say, its amazing this guy is considered a great man in the reformation circles? Whats up with yall? Im not throwing out his ideas or opinions because of his sins, we have all sinned like the bible teaches, im throwing out his ideas and opinions because they are against the bible and claerly heretical garbage.
This "reformation" has been dead from the 1500s. I woulda joined the ana-baptists during that era, them guys was legit.
Cant wait for that house of cards to fall!
"We should throw out the Epistle of James from this school (Wittenberg) for it doesn't amount to much. It contains not one syllable about Christ. Nor does it mention Christ expect at the beginning. I maintain that some Jew wrote it who probably heard about Christian people but never encountered any!"
(Sited from: LW-54 424-425)
Do not ask anything of your conscience; and if it speaks, do not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." (Sited from: J. Dollinger, La Reforme et les resultants qu’elle a produits. (Trans. E. Perrot, Paris, Gaume, 1848-49), Vol III, pg. 248)
This guy has so many quotes filled with false teachings and things even atheists dare not say, its amazing this guy is considered a great man in the reformation circles? Whats up with yall? Im not throwing out his ideas or opinions because of his sins, we have all sinned like the bible teaches, im throwing out his ideas and opinions because they are against the bible and claerly heretical garbage.
This "reformation" has been dead from the 1500s. I woulda joined the ana-baptists during that era, them guys was legit.
Oh my.. I can’t believe what I just read that m. Luther allegedly said.. or is it someone trying to discredit.. I can not even repeat what I read.. it is vile. I will just ignore such evil.. who ever dared speak it.. vile.
I’m not referring to the Moses quote either.. something I came across while checking his quotes.
I’m not referring to the Moses quote either.. something I came across while checking his quotes.
Seems he did;
Quote: Martin Luther on the Ten Commandments:
“…When Paul declares that we are delivered from the curse of the Law he means the whole Law, particularly the moral law which more than the other laws accuses, curses, and condemns the conscience. The Ten Commandments have no right to condemn that conscience in which Jesus dwells, for Jesus has taken from the Ten Commandments the right and power to curse us. Not as if the conscience is now insensitive to the terrors of the Law, but the Law cannot drive the conscience to despair.”
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Timothy 4:1-2, "Now the Spirit speaks very plainly, that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared as with a hot iron."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:15, "Who show the work of the Torah written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing (condemming sin) or even excusing (justifying sin)."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Timothy 4:3-4, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears, and they will turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned to fables.”[/FONT]
Quote: Martin Luther on the Ten Commandments:
“…When Paul declares that we are delivered from the curse of the Law he means the whole Law, particularly the moral law which more than the other laws accuses, curses, and condemns the conscience. The Ten Commandments have no right to condemn that conscience in which Jesus dwells, for Jesus has taken from the Ten Commandments the right and power to curse us. Not as if the conscience is now insensitive to the terrors of the Law, but the Law cannot drive the conscience to despair.”
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Timothy 4:1-2, "Now the Spirit speaks very plainly, that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons Speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their conscience seared as with a hot iron."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 2:15, "Who show the work of the Torah written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing (condemming sin) or even excusing (justifying sin)."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Timothy 4:3-4, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts they will heap to themselves teachers, who will tickle their ears, and they will turn away their ears from the truth, and be turned to fables.”[/FONT]
Yup, I challenge anyone to look up the quotes from this guy. Cant believe folks put any value on his writings. Rather read a fishing manual. Nice to see someone with understanding on this. May God bless you.
Wish more folks would realize the reformation wasnt all that great. In fact, we might of been better off without it. Sure the catholics had indulgences and idolatry (bowing to statues) but atleast it was just one big pile of false teachings. Now we got thousands of denominations from the "reformation".
God aint behind such madness and confusion.
On the bright side: The anabaptists were aiight.
Wish more folks would realize the reformation wasnt all that great. In fact, we might of been better off without it. Sure the catholics had indulgences and idolatry (bowing to statues) but atleast it was just one big pile of false teachings. Now we got thousands of denominations from the "reformation".
God aint behind such madness and confusion.
On the bright side: The anabaptists were aiight.
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Luther was anti-semitic. Chief heretic. Lutheran churches are an absolute joke, and it aint no wonder considering the root.
Cant wait for that house of cards to fall!
"We should throw out the Epistle of James from this school (Wittenberg) for it doesn't amount to much. It contains not one syllable about Christ. Nor does it mention Christ expect at the beginning. I maintain that some Jew wrote it who probably heard about Christian people but never encountered any!"
(Sited from: LW-54 424-425)
Do not ask anything of your conscience; and if it speaks, do not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." (Sited from: J. Dollinger, La Reforme et les resultants qu’elle a produits. (Trans. E. Perrot, Paris, Gaume, 1848-49), Vol III, pg. 248)
This guy has so many quotes filled with false teachings and things even atheists dare not say, its amazing this guy is considered a great man in the reformation circles? Whats up with yall? Im not throwing out his ideas or opinions because of his sins, we have all sinned like the bible teaches, im throwing out his ideas and opinions because they are against the bible and claerly heretical garbage.
This "reformation" has been dead from the 1500s. I woulda joined the ana-baptists during that era, them guys was legit.
Cant wait for that house of cards to fall!
"We should throw out the Epistle of James from this school (Wittenberg) for it doesn't amount to much. It contains not one syllable about Christ. Nor does it mention Christ expect at the beginning. I maintain that some Jew wrote it who probably heard about Christian people but never encountered any!"
(Sited from: LW-54 424-425)
Do not ask anything of your conscience; and if it speaks, do not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." (Sited from: J. Dollinger, La Reforme et les resultants qu’elle a produits. (Trans. E. Perrot, Paris, Gaume, 1848-49), Vol III, pg. 248)
This guy has so many quotes filled with false teachings and things even atheists dare not say, its amazing this guy is considered a great man in the reformation circles? Whats up with yall? Im not throwing out his ideas or opinions because of his sins, we have all sinned like the bible teaches, im throwing out his ideas and opinions because they are against the bible and claerly heretical garbage.
This "reformation" has been dead from the 1500s. I woulda joined the ana-baptists during that era, them guys was legit.
If it was not because of the reformation , you would not even be able today, to read the scripture in your native language. The roman catholic church did not want anyone to have the scriptures in there native language only in latin & singing also in latin this is historically documented for all to read.
If this is the way you present your case against the reformation , then by all means toss away , the scripture you have in your native language , and go learn latin return to the Mother of Abominations , but be forwarn you will reap what you sow.
History clealry is evident , that she ( Roman Catholic Church ) did not want anyone to have the scripture in there native language.
Much blood was shed for truth , and she (Roman Catholic Church ) has a cup full of the blood of the martyrs , and those that had the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Is that why the Douay-Rheims bible NT (catholic bible) was released in english in the 1500s? Erasmus was also a catholic...
Ya know, everybody got the bible in their native language, thank God for that. But ask yourself, how come we have so many different teachings and churches when all claim sola scriptura and sola fide and all of that? Looks like the reformation didnt solve the problem, only added more sects.
Ya know, everybody got the bible in their native language, thank God for that. But ask yourself, how come we have so many different teachings and churches when all claim sola scriptura and sola fide and all of that? Looks like the reformation didnt solve the problem, only added more sects.
Tyndale understood before the work was even completed , that many fraction would rise . But the Truth will always stand firm. Even in the time when the apostles of Christ began there work , many turn against the truth , and build there own religions.
A clear example of this is written upon in 3 John 1:9 upon Diotrephes.
Speaking upon the Douay-Rheims bible NT dates to 1582 . If i can recall by memory Erasmus died loyal to rome , and did not want anything to do with protestants.
William Tyndale english translation brought " The Light " to the people to read , in there native language , before the king gave permission to published the translation in 1538 two years after his martyr.
Let us examine the world of William tyndale . In His very own words , how was it to live in such a era , controlled by the Papacy.
Preface to The Pentateuch (1530)
Quote from above: Finally in this they be all agreed, to drive you from the knowledge of the scripture, and that ye shall not have the text thereof in the mother tongue, and to keep the world still in darkness, to the intent they might sit in the consciences of the people, through vain superstition and false doctrine, to satisfy their filthy lusts, their proud ambition, and unsatiable covetousness, and to exalt their own honor above King and Emperor, yea, and above God himself.
Quote from above: Under what manner therefore should I now submit this book to be corrected and amended of them, which can suffer nothing to be well? Or what protestation should I make in such a matter unto our prelates, those stubborn Nimrods which so mightily fight against God and resist his holy spirit, enforcing with all craft and subtlety to quench the light of the everlasting testament, promises, and appointment made between God and us? And heaping the fierce wrath of God upon all princes and rulers, mocking them with false feigned names of hypocrisy, and serving their lusts at all points, and dispensing with them even of the very laws of God, of which Christ himself testifieth (Matthew 5) that not so much as one tittle thereof may perish or be broken. And of which the prophet sayeth (Psalm 118): Thou hast commanded thy laws to be kept "meod", that is in Hebrew "exceedingly," with all diligence, might, and power, and have made them so mad with their juggling charms and crafty persuasions that they think it full satisfaction for all their wicked living, to torment such as tell them truth, and to burn the word of their soul's health, and slay whosoever believe thereon.
An answer unto sir Thomas More's dialogue (1531).
My thoughts :
The reformation had to occur , because just as the Pharisees hijack The Word of God , the same could be applied upon the roman catholic church , adding so many things to God Word , that it becomes none effect to the people.
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
I hope you can see this truth Issachar92 .
A clear example of this is written upon in 3 John 1:9 upon Diotrephes.
Speaking upon the Douay-Rheims bible NT dates to 1582 . If i can recall by memory Erasmus died loyal to rome , and did not want anything to do with protestants.
William Tyndale english translation brought " The Light " to the people to read , in there native language , before the king gave permission to published the translation in 1538 two years after his martyr.
Let us examine the world of William tyndale . In His very own words , how was it to live in such a era , controlled by the Papacy.
Preface to The Pentateuch (1530)
Quote from above: Finally in this they be all agreed, to drive you from the knowledge of the scripture, and that ye shall not have the text thereof in the mother tongue, and to keep the world still in darkness, to the intent they might sit in the consciences of the people, through vain superstition and false doctrine, to satisfy their filthy lusts, their proud ambition, and unsatiable covetousness, and to exalt their own honor above King and Emperor, yea, and above God himself.
Quote from above: Under what manner therefore should I now submit this book to be corrected and amended of them, which can suffer nothing to be well? Or what protestation should I make in such a matter unto our prelates, those stubborn Nimrods which so mightily fight against God and resist his holy spirit, enforcing with all craft and subtlety to quench the light of the everlasting testament, promises, and appointment made between God and us? And heaping the fierce wrath of God upon all princes and rulers, mocking them with false feigned names of hypocrisy, and serving their lusts at all points, and dispensing with them even of the very laws of God, of which Christ himself testifieth (Matthew 5) that not so much as one tittle thereof may perish or be broken. And of which the prophet sayeth (Psalm 118): Thou hast commanded thy laws to be kept "meod", that is in Hebrew "exceedingly," with all diligence, might, and power, and have made them so mad with their juggling charms and crafty persuasions that they think it full satisfaction for all their wicked living, to torment such as tell them truth, and to burn the word of their soul's health, and slay whosoever believe thereon.
An answer unto sir Thomas More's dialogue (1531).
- Take heed, therefore, wicked prelates, blind leaders of the blind; indurate and obstinate hypocrites, take heed …. Ye will be the chiefest in Christ's flock, and yet will not keep one jot of the right way of his doctrine …ye keep thereof almost naught at all, but whatsoever soundeth to make of your bellies, to maintain your honour, whether in the Scripture, or in your own traditions, or in the pope's law, that ye compel the lay-people to observe; violently threatening them with your excommunications and curses, that they shall be damned, body and soul, if they keep them not. And if that help you not, then ye murder them mercilessly with the sword of the temporal powers, whom ye have made so blind that they be ready to slay whom ye command, and will not hear his cause examined, nor give him room to answer for himself.
My thoughts :
The reformation had to occur , because just as the Pharisees hijack The Word of God , the same could be applied upon the roman catholic church , adding so many things to God Word , that it becomes none effect to the people.
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
I hope you can see this truth Issachar92 .
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William Tyndale stated :
Preface to The Practice of Prelates (1531).
I call God to record against the day we shall appear before our Lord Jesus, that I never altered one syllable of God's Word against my conscience, nor would do this day, if all that is in earth, whether it be honor, pleasure, or riches, might be given me.
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Preface to The Practice of Prelates (1531).
I call God to record against the day we shall appear before our Lord Jesus, that I never altered one syllable of God's Word against my conscience, nor would do this day, if all that is in earth, whether it be honor, pleasure, or riches, might be given me.
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Tyndale published an English Bible in the 1520's. That wasn't a very popular move with the papacy. England was forcibly converted to protestantism later in the century. The exiled papists wanted their own English bible - by this time there were a number of common-tongue versions that had been published - and so the DRV was created, NT in 1582 and OT in 1608.