GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[LoveGodForever]

LoveGodForever wrote:

My dear you did not read all the posts and scriptures in them did you? Each of those links have descriptions in them as to what the content is about.

CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

If you read the posts you would know that the 4th Commandment as well as the rest of God's LAW (10 Commandments) are NOT ORDINACES they are God's LAW written on stone.

The ORDINACES come from the Mosaic BOOK of the COVENANT NOT from God's 10 Commandments.

The GREEK word for ORDINANCES is dogma. It means CIVIL, CEREMONIAL or ECCLESIASTICAL LAW.

This is from the ORDINANCES in the book of the COVENANT written by MOSES. NOT God's 10 Commandments written by GOD on two tables of stone.

God's 10 Commandments were NOT written by MOSES it was written by and spoken by GOD himself. So COL 2:14 is NOT referring to God's 10 Commandments it is referring to the ORDINANCES written in the BOOK of Moses that are fullfilled in Christ and the ORDINACES that were against us. That is the CURSES for DISOBEDIENCE in Deuteronomy 28 or the PENALTY for SIN

COL 2:14

blotting out (G1813; ἐξαλείφω; exaleiphō; ex-al-i'-fo; means to obliterate; erase; wipe away) the handwriting of ordinances which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way nailing it to the cross.

Is referring to the penalty of sins and the curses (Ordinaces which where against us Deuteronomy 28) but it is also including much more.

The Greek words used here is handwriting G5498 χειρόγραφον; cheirographon; which means; hand written legal document which is combined with ordinance G1378 δόγμα dogma dog'-mah From the base of G1380; which means; civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical law: - decree;

The Greek meaning of handwriting of ordinances in V14 is a hand written legal document or book of civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws. These are the laws referred to in verse 14 that have been erased and are nailed to the cross.

This is also referring to the temple and levitical priest hood and everything associated with sin offereing and civil laws under the OLD Covenant.

Now if you read the post you woul know that already dear.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

I did read link no 1 completely my normal logic can not accept this argument.

Hello dear, It is God's Word you either BELIEVE it or you do not BELIEVE it. ALL the scriptures provided in all the linked topics SUPPORT all the scriptures from each linked topic. They all connect together. Scripture defines scriptures. These are God's WORDS. All of them disagree with your interpretation of a few scriptures. This should be a WARNING to you dear that your interpretation of God's WORD is not from God.

let me build you analogicall motor vehicle,like ford, chevy, Honda, must register to the department of Motor vehicle. We know there are thousand of motor vehicle brand, so the writer not mention it one by one.
is Toyota must register? yep because Toyota is motor vehicle. the handwriting of the ordinance is blotting out10 C is handwriting ordinance and you say it is not blotting out

Where does it say the handwriting of the ORDINANCE is the 10 Commandments? If you read the links above you would see from SCRIPTURES dear that the ORDINANCES are the CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL laws written in the BOOK of the COVENANT. They are NOT the 10 Commandments written on STONE by the FINGER of GOD.

But you did not read all the LINKS and scriptures in them did you dear.

let me repeat one mor time. You change the verse, you do what ever it take to manipulate the verse to justify your doctrine, it may not you, but how in the world you agree this lie? that is why I am not going to wasting time to read other link, Inguess it will be the same quality, lie argument

Your a funny one dear. You have been shown through the WORD of God what the scriptures say. Gods says it not me. They are God's WORDS not my words.

You refuse to read all the scriptures and posts sent you to help you above in the linked posts and you say it is a lie without even reading all the posts and scripture from God's WORD that disagree with you.

Now, how can anything sent to you be a lie dear when you have not read everything in the posts that have been sent to you? You cannot even state what it is you think I have lied to you about can you dear?

How has the meaning been changed? What is the meaning? You provide NO scriptures because you have none do you dear? Indeed you reject and ignore God's WORD in order to follow your tradition dear.

Now you have nowhere to hide and the WORD of God testifies against you because you ignore it and reject it. This is your decision and it is between you and God dear. You have the scriptures it is up to you what you decide to do with God's WORD.

You can BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD today or ignore and reject God's WORD today and be judged by them on judgement day (John 12:47-48)

 

[Shamah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:24, “And [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]the one guarding His commands stays in Him[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”


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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 4:24, “Yah is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 119:160, “The sum of Your word is truth, And all Your righteous right-rulings are forever.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John /Yahanan 17:17, “Set them apart in Your truth – Your Word is truth.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 6:17, “Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Yah.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 5:32, "“And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Yah has given to those who obey Him.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:24, "And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:12-13, “For the Word of Yah is living, and working, and sharper than any two-edged sword, cutting through even to the dividing of being and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all are naked and laid bare before the eyes of Him with whom is our account.”[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting." [/FONT]

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[LoveGodForever]

1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

John 4:24, “Yah is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.”

Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”

Psalm 119:160, “The sum of Your word is truth, And all Your righteous right-rulings are forever.”

John /Yahanan 17:17, “Set them apart in Your truth – Your Word is truth.”

Ephesians 6:17, “Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Yah.”

Acts 5:32, "“And we are His witnesses to these matters, and so also is the Set-apart Spirit whom Yah has given to those who obey Him.”

1 John 3:24, "And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.”

Hebrews 4:12-13, “For the Word of Yah is living, and working, and sharper than any two-edged sword, cutting through even to the dividing of being and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all are naked and laid bare before the eyes of Him with whom is our account.”

John/Yahanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting."

Hi HiZ, Well said and HAPPY SABBATH TO YOU! I have not spoken to you for some time. Hope you are well. God bless you as you continue in His WORD.

 

[Shamah]

Hi HiZ, Well said and HAPPY SABBATH TO YOU! I have not spoken to you for some time. Hope you are well. God bless you as you continue in His WORD.

I also hope you are having a wonderful Sabbath, praises to YHWH for we are imperfect and He is perfect, may we hold fast to Him that we may endure and be found worthy!

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 133:1-3, “See how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity. Like the precious oil on the head, Running down on the beard, The beard of Aharon, Running down on the collar of his robes. Like the dew of Ḥermon, That comes down on the mountains of Tsiyon. For there [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]commanded the blessing, Life forever!”[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[LoveGodForever]

I also hope you are having a wonderful Sabbath, praises to YHWH for we are imperfect and He is perfect, may we hold fast to Him that we may endure and be found worthy!

Psalms 133:1-3, “See how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity. Like the precious oil on the head, Running down on the beard, The beard of Aharon, Running down on the collar of his robes. Like the dew of Ḥermon, That comes down on the mountains of Tsiyon. For there יהוה commanded the blessing, Life forever!”

AMEN! My Sabbath is FINISHED now in my timezone, but always have a great Sabbath with our LORD.

IT is so peaceful to turn off the cares of daily life and REST in his LOVE and devote the day to God. Sometime we stay at home. Sometimes we spend time in God's CREATION as a family to REMEMBER and see God's WORD. Other times we go to church and sometimes a combination of all of the above.

How blessed are those who walk with God. Nothing shall affend them, because we can do all things because he strenthens us.

May God bless you are you continue in his Words.

 

[Studyman]

"This scripture does in no way erase the Biblical fact that it was Jesus, as the God of Abraham, who talked to Abraham, who created "All things" including His Commandments."

you are correct

but it is very important information, I think, about how Jesus and the father are one

John 17: 11. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me,

that they may be one, as we are.


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posted from my phone, blessings!

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

14
Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

This is what I mean about the foundation of truth. If you believe it was a different God who spoke with Cain, Noah, Abraham, and Moses, then you and I have a fundamental disagreement about the Rock.

1 Cor. 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Pet. 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

Ex. 20:1 And God, who created "ALL THINGS" spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD (Jesus) thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

 

[LoveGodForever]

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

14
Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

This is what I mean about the foundation of truth. If you believe it was a different God who spoke with Cain, Noah, Abraham, and Moses, then you and I have a fundamental disagreement about the Rock.

1 Cor. 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Pet. 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

Ex. 20:1 And God, who created "ALL THINGS" spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD (Jesus) thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

AMEN! Well written SM. I am still many pages behind trying to catch up on my own posts so have not really have much of a chance sometimes to see what others are writing. Just thought I would pop by and say hi and wish you a HAPPY SABBATH!

God bless you as you continue in Gods' WORD.

 

[Studyman]

AMEN! My Sabbath is FINISHED now in my timezone, but always have a great Sabbath with our LORD.

IT is so peaceful to turn off the cares of daily life and REST in his LOVE and devote the day to God. Sometime we stay at home. Sometimes we spend time in God's CREATION as a family to REMEMBER and see God's WORD. Other times we go to church and sometimes a combination of all of the above.

How blessed are those who walk with God. Nothing shall affend them, because we can do all things because he strenthens us.

May God bless you are you continue in his Words.

As the Spirit of the great Christ directed Isaiah to minister unto us:

Is. 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD (Christ) hath spoken it.

Amen.

 

[LoveGodForever]

10 commandments in the 10 Commandments
so i gather from your response that you say the rules in the new covenant are just the Ten.
yes?

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posted from my phone, blessings!

Hello Dan,

You did not answer all the questions in POST # 7127 linked. Was there are reason for this?

You are correct, God's 10 Commandments are not the same as the other 603 as they were written and spoken by God himself and were the work of God and not mankind. God commanded the 10 commandments to be SEPARATED from the BOOK of the COVENANT in the ARK for a reason.

Do you know what that reason may be?

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[spartanrmd]

I could care less about Jewish law - Im a Gentile and a Christian

 

[LoveGodForever]

I could care less about Jewish law - Im a Gentile and a Christian

Its God's LAW not the Jewish law. If you break it you commit SIN. You are not a christian if you continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN.

1 John 2
3, And by this we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that says, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Studyman]

I could care less about Jewish law - Im a Gentile and a Christian

21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

 

[Jackson123]

Hello dear, It is God's Word you either BELIEVE it or you do not BELIEVE it. ALL the scriptures provided in all the linked topics SUPPORT all the scriptures from each linked topic. They all connect together. Scripture defines scriptures. These are God's WORDS. All of them disagree with your interpretation of a few scriptures. This should be a WARNING to you dear that your interpretation of God's WORD is not from God.



Where does it say the handwriting of the ORDINANCE is the 10 Commandments? If you read the links above you would see from SCRIPTURES dear that the ORDINANCES are the CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL laws written in the BOOK of the COVENANT. They are NOT the 10 Commandments written on STONE by the FINGER of GOD.

But you did not read all the LINKS and scriptures in them did you dear.



Your a funny one dear. You have been shown through the WORD of God what the scriptures say. Gods says it not me. They are God's WORDS not my words.

You refuse to read all the scriptures and posts sent you to help you above in the linked posts and you say it is a lie without even reading all the posts and scripture from God's WORD that disagree with you.

Now, how can anything sent to you be a lie dear when you have not read everything in the posts that have been sent to you? You cannot even state what it is you think I have lied to you about can you dear?

How has the meaning been changed? What is the meaning? You provide NO scriptures because you have none do you dear? Indeed you reject and ignore God's WORD in order to follow your tradition dear.

Now you have nowhere to hide and the WORD of God testifies against you because you ignore it and reject it. This is your decision and it is between you and God dear. You have the scriptures it is up to you what you decide to do with God's WORD.

You can BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD today or ignore and reject God's WORD today and be judged by them on judgement day (John 12:47-48)

I believe God word, but handwriting ordinance turn to civil law is not in the Bible.

show me a verse that say handwriting ordinance is not 10 C.

handwriting mean not print or type writing

ordinance mean law

Exodus 31:8

When the LORD finished speaking with Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two stone tablets inscribed with the terms of the covenant, written by the finger of God.

see 10 C is handwriting of God.

let me repeat one time

the verse say blotting out handwriting ordinance

that verse say 10 C is handwriting

dear, Ellen make up story, manipulate the word, she do what ever she can to lie

show me a verse that say hand writing ordinance mean not 10C

 

[RNCM]

Good Day Brethren,
If we use the scripture to interpret the scripture it will be seen concerning the New Testament / New Covenant ( Heb 8:8-14 / Jer 31:31-35 ) that a Biblical Christian must Believe that God's Law is to be written on the heart and mind; as well must the Forgiveness of sin and transgression be Believed, which comes by the blood of Christ (Mat 26:28). Sin is transgression of the law 1John 3:4
It is unbiblical to believe in a Christ who's blood does not forgive sin and write God's Law upon the heart.
Among those laws on our heart should be the Sabbath, and among those ordinances which are against us are any law which we break: this is called sin, and sin is what Christ was manifested to take away...not the law.
renewedcovenantministry.com

I believe God word, but handwriting ordinance turn to civil law is not in the Bible.

show me a verse that say handwriting ordinance is not 10 C.

handwriting mean not print or type writing

ordinance mean law

Exodus 31:8

When the LORD finished speaking with Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two stone tablets inscribed with the terms of the covenant, written by the finger of God.

see 10 C is handwriting of God.

let me repeat one time

the verse say blotting out handwriting ordinance

that verse say 10 C is handwriting

dear, Ellen make up story, manipulate the word, she do what ever she can to lie

show me a verse that say hand writing ordinance mean not 10C

 

[Dan_473]

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

14
Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

This is what I mean about the foundation of truth. If you believe it was a different God who spoke with Cain, Noah, Abraham, and Moses, then you and I have a fundamental disagreement about the Rock.

1 Cor. 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

1 Pet. 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

Ex. 20:1 And God, who created "ALL THINGS" spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD (Jesus) thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

"This is what I mean about the foundation of truth. If you believe it was a different God who spoke with Cain, Noah, Abraham, and Moses, then you and I have a fundamental disagreement about the Rock."

i don't believe it was a different God

 

[Dan_473]

Hello Dan,

You did not answer all the questions in POST # 7127 linked. Was there are reason for this?

You are correct, God's 10 Commandments are not the same as the other 603 as they were written and spoken by God himself and were the work of God and not mankind. God commanded the 10 commandments to be SEPARATED from the BOOK of the COVENANT in the ARK for a reason.

Do you know what that reason may be?

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

one question at a time, I'm on a small screen

so, the rules in the new covenant are just the Ten.
yes?

 

[RNCM]

Good Day,
If we use the scripture to interpret the scripture it will be seen concerning the New Testament / New Covenant ( Heb 8:8-14 / Jer 31:31-35 ) that a Biblical Christian must Believe that God's Law is to be written on the heart and mind; as well must the Forgiveness of sin and transgression be Believed, which comes by the blood of Christ (Mat 26:28). Sin is transgression of the law 1John 3:4
It is unbiblical to believe in a Christ who's blood does not forgive sin and write God's Law upon the heart.
Among those laws on our heart should be the Sabbath, and among those ordinances which are against us are any law which we break: this is called sin, and sin is what Christ was manifested to take away...not the law.
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[Katy-follower]

It's sad to me that you're all still here fighting against a very clear scripture. This is what happens when you keep favoring your personal view over the scriptures....

Colossians 2:11-17:

"In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it

So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ"


Romans 14:1-4: "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand"

 

[Dan_473]

i think this sums it up

Matthew 7: 12. Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

 

[RNCM]

There is no fighting here. Very simply, love of God is keeping his commandments: Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Loving neighbor is treating him as yourself according to God's Law:

Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

And Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 14:12