Is the Bible inerrant inspired word of God?

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Is the Bible the inerrant inspired word of God?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 92.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • Total voters
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Oct 15, 2017
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#1
Discuss. I hope the votes will be heavily one sided on this poll.
 

trofimus

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#2
No.

1. A word of God is a direct saying of God.

2. Scriptures were written by men inspired by the Spirit. They contains direct words of God and many human-like things (like "bring me a cloak I left in Troas").

3. Bible is a specific translation of a specific compilation of source texts. These texts are various quality copies of Scriptures.
 

Joidevivre

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I believe it is. And when there are some human comments (like "bring me a cloak I left in Troas"), I still believe that God wanted that statement to be read. He inspired it to be written down. Sometimes it shows the human side along with the spiritual - why would not God plan it that way?

And even though there are various quality copies of scripture, and worded differently, the basic message is the same. It all points to Jesus and The Cross. Could it be that different people need to hear it phrased differently in order to understand it?

It is the Spirit behind the message that needs to be discerned.

There is a danger when you try to decide what part is God's and what part is man's own thoughts. Everyone would draw the distinction differently. It is much easier to believe in the inerrant inspired Word of God.
 

Grandpa

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Aside from a few minor additions to the Word the bible is as close as we can get to the inerrant inspired word of God.

Its good enough to bring us to Christ. Who is the inerrant, inspired, Word of God.
 

crossnote

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Most definitely.

http://defendinginerrancy.com/why-is-inerrancy-important/

From the beginning satan's attacks swirl mainly around the innerrancy of God's Word..."Hath God said...?".

 
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God uses many things to bring His Word of Life, the first written words of the NT was written on a notice nailed to the crucifix above Jesus. It was quite the statement indeed.
 
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[video=youtube;pevCBRP4RHg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pevCBRP4RHg[/video]
 

Joidevivre

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"Who is the inerrant, inspired, Word of God." = Grandpa

Wonderful truth.

Now, why didn't I think of that?
 

Prov910

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No.

1. A word of God is a direct saying of God.

2. Scriptures were written by men inspired by the Spirit. They contains direct words of God and many human-like things (like "bring me a cloak I left in Troas").

3. Bible is a specific translation of a specific compilation of source texts. These texts are various quality copies of Scriptures.
^ This.

I believe the bible was inspired. I read the bible nearly every day. It's a tool I use to help me worship God. But the bible is not God. I don't worship the bible. I worship God.

Just look at how much disagreement and differing interpretations there are right here on CC. Don't you think there was some of that among the many translators, scribes, scriveners, publishers, etc. who have be reproducing the bible for the past 1500 years?

My vote of "no" means that I think there may have been errors or misinterpretations in the bible during the past 1500 years, thus preventing it from being the " inerrant" inspired word of God. /jmho
 
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John146

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^ This.

I believe the bible was inspired. I read the bible nearly every day. It's a tool I use to help me worship God. But the bible is not God. I don't worship the bible. I worship God.

Just look at how much disagreement and differing interpretations there are right here on CC. Don't you think there was some of that among the many translators, scribes, scriveners, publishers, etc. who have be reproducing the bible for the past 1500 years?

My vote of "no" means that I think there may have been errors or misinterpretations in the bible during the past 1500 years, thus preventing it from being the " inerrant" inspired word of God. /jmho
Why read and study from something that has errors in it? Who are you or anyone else to determine what words we cant trust to be right and which ones are errors?
 
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Why read and study from something that has errors in it? Who are you or anyone else to determine what words we cant trust to be right and which ones are errors?
thats easy. the ones u dont like are errors. the ones u like are right. isnt that how it goes?
 

trofimus

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#12
Why read and study from something that has errors in it? Who are you or anyone else to determine what words we cant trust to be right and which ones are errors?
The same applies to the KJV translators and to Erasmus and his followers regarding the Textus Receptus.

The same applies also to Jewish masorets producing masoretic texts used by the KJV.
 

Angela53510

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If we do not believe in the total message of the Bible, then we become judge and arbitrator of the truth. Instead of God!

All those human things are so important. Jesus came to earth as a human, and dwelt among us. He experienced what we experience. He was also tempted! Therefore, God knows that human experience, specifically as reported in the Bible are part of his Word to us.

I will relate again the 2 years I walked away from the Bible, and God, because I wasn't healed of RA. I was in pain, I was spiritually bereft! God told me to read the Psalms over and over.

What I discovered reading 5 psalms a day for 2 years, was that the Bible is about real people, who suffer, rejoice, dance, weep, and live on this earth. The other thing I found, was that these very real people were still able (except for imprecatory psalms like Psalm 88) were still able to praise God in spite of the circumstances of their lives.

I love the humanness of the Bible. God put that in there for a specific reason, including "bring me my cloak." We can learn so much from a simple statement like that! It points to the fact that Paul was human, too! And he experienced cold, and he had friends to help him on his earthly part of the journey. It points away from gnosticism, and that our bodies, our lives on this earth mean nothing!

When you talk away statements like "bring me my cloak" you literally tear out support for the Bible truth that God created us to live on this earth. And then there is the historical importance, of where Paul was, where he had been, which helps us understand what Paul was going through as he wrote the key doctrines in his epistles.

I rest my case! Rant over!
 
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Voted. My views have closely been discussed elsewhere in this thread by other members.
 

Nehemiah6

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No.

1. A word of God is a direct saying of God.
That is NOT how the Bible defines "the Word of God". Please note carefully and BELIEVE what is revealed:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Timothy 3:16,17).

What is "all Scripture"? The Holy Bible from Genesis to Revelation (sixty six books)

What is "given by inspiration of God"? Theopneustos = God breathed = every word in the original autographs was given by God to the prophets, evangelists, ad apostles. "Holy men of God spake (or wrote) AS THEY WERE MOVED by the Holy Spirit". Not by the will of man, but by the direction of the Holy Spirit.

If the Holy Bible is not the Word of God, then we have nothing. Just another book. And if God did not preserve His Word over the millennia through faithful copies of copies, then we still would have nothing.

As to your prejudice against the Textus Receptus and the King James Bible, it is just that -- human bias with no foundation other than prejudice. And it was the prejudice of Westcott & Hort that corrupted the Bibles of today with Gnostic perversions.

23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

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For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:


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But the Word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the Word which by the Gospel is preached unto you. (1 Peter 1:23-25).

If the Bible is inspired, it is inerrant (no errors). And if it is inerrant it is infallible. And because the Lord Jesus Christ Himself believed this, He said that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.
 
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tourist

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#17
I believe it is. And when there are some human comments (like "bring me a cloak I left in Troas"), I still believe that God wanted that statement to be read. He inspired it to be written down. Sometimes it shows the human side along with the spiritual - why would not God plan it that way?

And even though there are various quality copies of scripture, and worded differently, the basic message is the same. It all points to Jesus and The Cross. Could it be that different people need to hear it phrased differently in order to understand it?

It is the Spirit behind the message that needs to be discerned.

There is a danger when you try to decide what part is God's and what part is man's own thoughts. Everyone would draw the distinction differently. It is much easier to believe in the inerrant inspired Word of God.
I agree. God knew how the versions and translations would turn out and every word, comma or jot is important and was inspired by the Holy Spirit for certain individuals to scribe and translate. It states exactly this is the bible and gives a warning not to add, subtract or change any of it beyond what was intended or allowed. There are a lot of ordinary human phrases and conversations in the bible and these were put there for a purpose. Perhaps some of it was put there to just simply amuse the reader showing that God does indeed have a sense of humor. He certainly has a sarcastic wit as well and does not suffer fools gladly.
 
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#18
When Paul preached from the Scriptures, he called it the word of God:

And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers. 1 Thessalonians 2:13

All Scripture is therefore correctly called "the word of God."
 

trofimus

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#19
When Paul preached from the Scriptures, he called it the word of God:

And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers. 1 Thessalonians 2:13

All Scripture is therefore correctly called "the word of God."
How do you know Paul meant Scriptures?

The context seems to be more about his preachings (you heard from us).
 

John146

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#20
I read my Bible with full assurance that every word is right and pure. If I had one thought that it contained errors, then I would not read and study my Bible. How about you? Do you have full assurance in the words that you read are from God? Do you trust every word?