The Benefits of Tithing and Giving

[MessageOfTheCross]

Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.
Considering what Jesus has said here (Luke 16:9-13 NKJV), I think it would be difficult to overstate the significance of this down to earth, practical teaching, that applies to everyone. If a person cannot be trusted with money, and in any capacity, Jesus plainly says, he cannot be trusted with Salvation, i.e., "true riches." In view of the seriousness of what is being said, we would do well to heed carefully.

In these passages (Luke 16:9-13), Jesus is saying that irrespective of how loudly and how often we profess our Godliness, if it does not show up in our practical, every day living, and especially in the matters of money, and our responsibility toward others, our profession is vain. This statement is plain and clear, if we are unfaithful in these things. "Who will commit to our trust the true riches?"

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Does Christ rebuke the devourer if the Believer in Christ doesn't tithe?
Can a Christian test God in the New Testament? If so how?
Can a Christian live in the open windows of Heaven if they don't tithe?

Please post your scripture to support(s) your statement.

 

[joaniemarie]

Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.
Considering what Jesus has said here (Luke 16:9-13 NKJV), I think it would be difficult to overstate the significance of this down to earth, practical teaching, that applies to everyone. If a person cannot be trusted with money, and in any capacity, Jesus plainly says, he cannot be trusted with Salvation, i.e., "true riches." In view of the seriousness of what is being said, we would do well to heed carefully.

In these passages (Luke 16:9-13), Jesus is saying that irrespective of how loudly and how often we profess our Godliness, if it does not show up in our practical, every day living, and especially in the matters of money, and our responsibility toward others, our profession is vain. This statement is plain and clear, if we are unfaithful in these things. "Who will commit to our trust the true riches?"

​It took me some time to learn the significance of money in the kingdom of God. I never knew how much our family trusting in money until I lost it all after our divorce. Our family worried about it., invested their lives in it., found their value from it., worked hard for it and the making of it so when they got old., they could retire and not "worry" We didn't trust God to take care of us but we trusted in our selves and our money to do that.

But when the money was all gone., I saw how much I depended on it and not Jesus. I saw how in the world and for unsaved people., money makes the world go round. (not God) How could I live on this earth trusting God if I thought I was the one who had the worry about how to get the money? God is the one who gives us the ability to make money and to use it well.

I saw how I used to be by seeing now how others who had money were towards me. They disrespected people without money. I knew many other Christians who depended on it so much so that they acted like unbelievers when it came to money as they also horded it for retirement so they wouldn't have to "worry" I'm not against saving for retirement. We should be wise with money but I'm saying we can't trust in the money and should God ask us to give it., we should be more than willing to give His money where He wants it and know that He will take care of us better than we could imagine.

I was put in the position of being the kind of "people" who just needed to get through 1 day., the last thing I was thinking of anymore is how to get it saved for retirement. I realized money was really a God to me for many years.

Now I see having money is not the problem., it's money having us that is the problem. When we don't hold on to money with a scared little fist., and freely let it flow from us., the Lord takes care of us in miraculous ways. I'm still learning about money and the Lord is gracious with me about that.

I agree with what you say here in your post but I have to say many saved people like me were not or are not wise with their money and need to relearn how to see money and use it and not let "it" use them. Many Christians believe money is off limits to even discuss. As if it's some sanctuary of personal ownership., when in reality for the Christian., our minds need to kick in the fact that all we have is owned by God and lent to us to use for a time.

Many think that God helps those who help themselves. NO., God helps those who trust Him. And God honors those who trust Him by being faithful to our trust. If we never learn to trust Him with "our" money., He will not force us to be blessed.

 

[Marcelo]

No doubt there is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving, but 10% sometimes may be not enough and sometimes may be unnecessary.

 

[Miri]

Those of us who do tithe know it is out of a desire to show Him and ourselves we can trust Him to take care of us and that we don't do like the world and trust our ability to make money. Many don't even give God the opportunity to see Him pour down blessings from heaven. Also., when we trust Him to take the first fruits., He blesses the rest and gives us wisdom as to how to use the rest of it. All we have isn't ours anyway., it's His and we are stewards who are very blessed. God the Father is also a wonderful employer.

It's simply wise stewardship.

What if God lays it on your heart to give more than a tithe. Just asking
Thats the problem with coming up with a minimum figure, see my post above,
hopefully you will see what I mean.

Why do you think a tithe was the figure mentioned in the OT, could it be that
it was meant to be a minimum to prevent stinginess? So say if people were not
giving anything and God decided to set s minimum, then a tithe would at
least meet that. The poor widow gave everything she had.

Its like we have a minimum pay over in the UK, some employers think it’s the
target to aim for rather than realising it’s intent of just the minimum to stop
stingy employers.

I hope you understand where I am coming from,
Im trying to open up the bigger picture.

The Pharisees where so legalistic that they tithed and weighed everything
even herbs. Were they really so begrudging that they would not give God
a penny extra. That’s the problem with the tithe debate.


Luke 11:42 NKJV
[42] "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner
of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to
have done, without leaving the others undone.

 

[Dino246]

Does Christ rebuke the devourer if the Believer in Christ doesn't tithe?
Can a Christian test God in the New Testament? If so how?
Can a Christian live in the open windows of Heaven if they don't tithe?

Please post your scripture to support(s) your statement.

This is another dodge. You have not yet answered MailManDan's question. You have, however, made your thinking on the subject plain. You're dancing close to the edge of becoming a Judaizer.

Do you tithe to your local Levite, who then tithes to the priest? Do you bring in every tenth animal that passes under the rod, whether good or bad? Do you use the tithe for the poor and the stranger among you? Do you take the tithe to pay for food and drink to celebrate in God's presence? When you exchange money for goods, do you add a fifth of the value?

If you aren't doing all that and much more, you aren't tithing biblically, so go back to your study and learn how to divide the word of God properly. The Old Covenant is fulfilled in Christ. Paul made it clear to the Galatians that neither their salvation nor their sanctification depended on legalistic adherence to the Law. Tithing (money) not only has nothing to do with obeying God, it is also your attempt to present yourself righteous so that you may earn His blessings.

I'll trust in Christ's righteousness, rather than my own, thanks very much.

Also, should you try that angle, tithing and giving are not the same thing. Don't conflate them and thereby confuse both.

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

This is another dodge. You have not yet answered MailManDan's question. You have, however, made your thinking on the subject plain. You're dancing close to the edge of becoming a Judaizer.

Do you tithe to your local Levite, who then tithes to the priest? Do you bring in every tenth animal that passes under the rod, whether good or bad? Do you use the tithe for the poor and the stranger among you? Do you take the tithe to pay for food and drink to celebrate in God's presence? When you exchange money for goods, do you add a fifth of the value?

If you aren't doing all that and much more, you aren't tithing biblically, so go back to your study and learn how to divide the word of God properly. The Old Covenant is fulfilled in Christ. Paul made it clear to the Galatians that neither their salvation nor their sanctification depended on legalistic adherence to the Law. Tithing (money) not only has nothing to do with obeying God, it is also your attempt to present yourself righteous so that you may earn His blessings.

I'll trust in Christ's righteousness, rather than my own, thanks very much.

Also, should you try that angle, tithing and giving are not the same thing. Don't conflate them and thereby confuse both.

Do you attend a Church that doesn't believe Christians should tithe?

 

[joaniemarie]

What if God lays it on your heart to give more than a tithe. Just asking
Thats the problem with coming up with a minimum figure, see my post above,
hopefully you will see what I mean.

Why do you think a tithe was the figure mentioned in the OT, could it be that
it was meant to be a minimum to prevent stinginess? So say if people were not
giving anything and God decided to set s minimum, then a tithe would at
least meet that. The poor widow gave everything she had.

Its like we have a minimum pay over in the UK, some employers think it’s the
target to aim for rather than realising it’s intent of just the minimum to stop
stingy employers.

I hope you understand where I am coming from,
Im trying to open up the bigger picture.

The Pharisees where so legalistic that they tithed and weighed everything
even herbs. Were they really so begrudging that they would not give God
a penny extra. That’s the problem with the tithe debate.


Luke 11:42 NKJV
[42] "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner
of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to
have done, without leaving the others undone.

Like any Bible truth., we need to see the truth from God's perspective. It's not the amount but it's the principle of the tithe I mentioned in my post before. What are our motives? Abraham was not under the law yet he honored God and gave 10% and more. I believe in giving like that.

When we are open to the truth that all we have is Gods., we will act it out in our lives in all areas. Money is a major issue for us humans. It represents our time at work and what we spend money on reflects our lives. In my case and in the case of many., having money was the only thing standing between me and the streets. But that is not really true at all. Jesus is the only one standing between me and the streets.

Have you ever tried to give 10% of your income? I'll say it's a major chunk humanly speaking., enough for a car payment. When I physically give the money I earn "away" and am trusting God to do with it as He pleases I'm acting in faith that God is reeeeaallly evolved in my life. This is reeealllly His money. He is REALLY here and He is REALLY my Father and Jesus is REALLY my Savior and Shepherd and His promises are real.

So real that what seems to be more real and solid (from our limited flesh and blood eyesight) like money in hand .....isn't. It's about where my trust is and it matters for me and for Jesus. Even my little bit of giving shows me and God where my trust is. And He has blessed me as I go. This is not a rule that we have to do. This is something that we have to be called to. If you're not called to this than don't do it. As was posted here., we don't give out of guilt or fear. For me it's a matter of trust and an act of faith and because of Jesus., it all works out.

My situation showed me clearly from where my help really comes from. And I was so moved by the love of Christ for me I began depending not on money anymore. Instead I put that faith and dependence on my Father God. Jesus promises to take care of us when we lean on trust and rely on Him for all our needs in our lives. Our faith steps out and things happen.

Seriously., sooo many years our family said we trusted God yet we held on to all the security this life could give us and we were empty and always lacked. I never knew how to trust God until I began learning how much He loves me in Christ. We love God because we learn how much He loved us first. We can't help but want to love Him back and give our lives over to Him. That is what the love of God did for me.

 

[Dino246]

Do you attend a Church that doesn't believe Christians should tithe?

After you answer my relevant questions, I'll consider answering your irrelevant question.

 

[Dino246]

Like any Bible truth., we need to see the truth from God's perspective. It's not the amount but it's the principle of the tithe I mentioned in my post before. What are our motives? Abraham was not under the law yet he honored God and gave 10% and more. I believe in giving like that.

You mean a tithe of war spoils, none of which he kept for himself? You give like that? Impressive! Which war?

 

[claysmithr]

Jesus and Zacchaeus
(Numbers 5:5-10)1Then Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2And there was a man named Zacchaeus, a chief tax collector, who was very wealthy. 3He was trying to see who Jesus was, but could not see over the crowd, because he was small in stature. 4So he ran on ahead and climbed a sycamore tree to see Him, since Jesus was about to pass that way.5When Jesus came to that place, He looked up and said, “Zacchaeus, hurry down, for I must stay at your house today.”6So Zacchaeus hurried down and welcomed Him joyfully. 7And all who saw this began to grumble, saying, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinful man!”8But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord, half of my possessions I give to the poor, and if I have cheated anyone, I will repay it fourfold.”9Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man too is a son of Abraham. 10For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”

Our salvation may be directly tied to how much we give to the poor! =)

 

[Miri]

Like any Bible truth., we need to see the truth from God's perspective. It's not the amount but it's the principle of the tithe I mentioned in my post before. What are our motives? Abraham was not under the law yet he honored God and gave 10% and more. I believe in giving like that.

When we are open to the truth that all we have is Gods., we will act it out in our lives in all areas. Money is a major issue for us humans. It represents our time at work and what we spend money on reflects our lives. In my case and in the case of many., having money was the only thing standing between me and the streets. But that is not really true at all. Jesus is the only one standing between me and the streets.

Have you ever tried to give 10% of your income? I'll say it's a major chunk humanly speaking., enough for a car payment. When I physically give the money I earn "away" and am trusting God to do with it as He pleases I'm acting in faith that God is reeeeaallly evolved in my life. This is reeealllly His money. He is REALLY here and He is REALLY my Father and Jesus is REALLY my Savior and Shepherd and His promises are real.

So real that what seems to be more real and solid (from our limited flesh and blood eyesight) like money in hand .....isn't. It's about where my trust is and it matters for me and for Jesus. Even my little bit of giving shows me and God where my trust is. And He has blessed me as I go. This is not a rule that we have to do. This is something that we have to be called to. If you're not called to this than don't do it. As was posted here., we don't give out of guilt or fear. For me it's a matter of trust and an act of faith and because of Jesus., it all works out.

My situation showed me clearly from where my help really comes from. And I was so moved by the love of Christ for me I began depending not on money anymore. Instead I put that faith and dependence on my Father God. Jesus promises to take care of us when we lean on trust and rely on Him for all our needs in our lives. Our faith steps out and things happen.

Seriously., sooo many years our family said we trusted God yet we held on to all the security this life could give us and we were empty and always lacked. I never knew how to trust God until I began learning how much He loves me in Christ. We love God because we learn how much He loved us first. We can't help but want to love Him back and give our lives over to Him. That is what the love of God did for me.

Yes - gross not net and and more, lots more.

I do understand your point really I do.

My point was that there are times a tithe is not enough and God challenges
to give more. That might happen for example to teach us that money cannot
support and save us, as you say that comes from God. It might be that we are asked
to give sacificially (I don’t mean as in give all your money to TV smooth talkers).
It might be that God puts it in your heart to support some evangelistic
undertaking.

We've had a big new church building given to us by God free, it was estimated
to be £20 million but God arranged circumstances in such an amazing way that
it was provided free.

There is one block on site which stands apart from the main church building,
which we have raised funds a few million, to renovate. It’s where the church
offices, and most of the young peoples and children’s work is carried out, along
with councilling facilities.

As a church we gave for that and have built/renovated that debt free.

It might be to support overseas missions etc.

Then as I mentioned in my first post, it might be that God says I would rather
you get out of debt first and free yourself, before giving to me.

As a church we are Christians against poverty centre (there are several in
the UK).

It is a Christian based Work to help people out of debt while showing them
the love of God. Also money management courses are held to help people
budget.

If finances are so tight that you can’t afford it eat for days at a time and rely on
food banks, it makes no sense to tithe. What will you tithe? A tin of beans!

The CAP course teaches people to take responsibility for finances and to
get back into a position where (for Christians), they can start to give
again. In the meantime they consider giving in other ways. God always
honours that and does an amazing work among people who take that course.
It has also led many to Christ.

some may be led to give a lot more than a tithe, than for a time it
might be that you end up receiving that money. After all the money goes
somewhere doesn’t it. It goes to circumstances and people who need it.

My point was that to pick out a figure and say people must give that
percentage, does not allow for God to say I want more or to say, keep
it for the time being and do something else for me instead.

 

[comingfrom]

Thank you MOTC.

Not only do Christians rob God, they mock Him and send "strange fire" and "strange incense." The scripture says, "Seek ye First, the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added."

I don't get it.

You say "Christians rob God", but you call yourself, MessageOfTheCross?
Preaching the cross instead of His word is how they rob Him, isn't it?

And in case you don't realize yet,
crosses are Roman wooden implements of torture unto death.
They don't talk, they don't preach, and they don't have a message.
They are two bits of wood stuck together.

I apologize if this is a hard truth for anybody.

God showed me, His sign is the red love heart
Paul

 

[comingfrom]

Good day, Israel.

Or are you not a child of God?

YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION.

Was Malachi 3:8 written to the Christians under the New Covenant or to Israel under the Old Covenant?

Israel is God's people.
Gentiles are the heathen.
When the Lord circumcises our heart, we are born again, in His new kingdom.
We become Jews of God in the land of Israel,
and are obligated to do the whole of the law.
No longer walking in the ways of the Gentiles.

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly;
and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Romans 2:29

I testify again
to every man that is circumcised,
that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Galations 5:3

Did Jesus circumcise your heart?
The reason St Paul says Christ doesn't profit most of theme who are circumcised, the born again in Christ,
is because they do not do their obligation to Jesus.
They chose rather to follow the Christians who are following the cross.

Jesus said to pick up His cross, which was to keep the commandments of God to do His will,
and follow Him.

Jesus' cross, not a Roman cross.

Jesus didn't own the cross they hung Him on.
That was still government property.
Paul

 

[joaniemarie]

You mean a tithe of war spoils, none of which he kept for himself? You give like that? Impressive! Which war?

I shared my own experiences. If you have a problem with someone's personal convictions and beliefs about tithing that is not my problem. I shared what I believe and you are free to share what you believe.

I believe what the Bible says about us being the seed of Abraham and daughters of Sarah. Gal.3:29

[SUP]29 [/SUP]And if ye are Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, heirs according to promise.

There are certain aspects to this identity that mean something to us under the new covenant. But actually I'm not up for discussing this subject with someone like you this evening who must use sarcasm instead of respect and reason.

 

[joaniemarie]

Yes - gross not net and and more, lots more.

I do understand your point really I do.

My point was that there are times a tithe is not enough and God challenges
to give more. That might happen for example to teach us that money cannot
support and save us, as you say that comes from God. It might be that we are asked
to give sacificially (I don’t mean as in give all your money to TV smooth talkers).
It might be that God puts it in your heart to support some evangelistic
undertaking.

We've had a big new church building given to us by God free, it was estimated
to be £20 million but God arranged circumstances in such an amazing way that
it was provided free.

There is one block on site which stands apart from the main church building,
which we have raised funds a few million, to renovate. It’s where the church
offices, and most of the young peoples and children’s work is carried out, along
with councilling facilities.

As a church we gave for that and have built/renovated that debt free.

It might be to support overseas missions etc.

Then as I mentioned in my first post, it might be that God says I would rather
you get out of debt first and free yourself, before giving to me.

As a church we are Christians against poverty centre (there are several in
the UK).

It is a Christian based Work to help people out of debt while showing them
the love of God. Also money management courses are held to help people
budget.

If finances are so tight that you can’t afford it eat for days at a time and rely on
food banks, it makes no sense to tithe. What will you tithe? A tin of beans!

The CAP course teaches people to take responsibility for finances and to
get back into a position where (for Christians), they can start to give
again. In the meantime they consider giving in other ways. God always
honours that and does an amazing work among people who take that course.
It has also led many to Christ.

some may be led to give a lot more than a tithe, than for a time it
might be that you end up receiving that money. After all the money goes
somewhere doesn’t it. It goes to circumstances and people who need it.

My point was that to pick out a figure and say people must give that
percentage, does not allow for God to say I want more or to say, keep
it for the time being and do something else for me instead.

No., you don't understand my point, really you don't. I already said we are free to tithe or not., give or don't give. There is no law that we are under that compels us to tithe. It's up to each person to decide how they are going to give. I simply shared my personal reasons and convictions on the matter that is all. They are not up for debate.

I never said "people must give that percentage" you said that. I've never been asked to give sacrificially since when the Holy Spirit puts it on my heart to give I give. It's' not a sacrifice for me to give His money to someone or some organization. I told you in my previous post that is what I've been learning about finances. All we have is His and we are asked to be good stewards of it. Perhaps you didn't read my whole post?

As far as net or gross I don't worry about such things. No one is counting pennies least of all God. Now maybe you can really read my post?

 

[mailmandan]

Good day, Israel.

Or are you not a child of God?


Israel is God's people.
Gentiles are the heathen.
When the Lord circumcises our heart, we are born again, in His new kingdom.
We become Jews of God in the land of Israel,
and are obligated to do the whole of the law.
No longer walking in the ways of the Gentiles.

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly;
and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Romans 2:29

I testify again
to every man that is circumcised,
that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Galations 5:3

Did Jesus circumcise your heart?
The reason St Paul says Christ doesn't profit most of theme who are circumcised, the born again in Christ,
is because they do not do their obligation to Jesus.
They chose rather to follow the Christians who are following the cross.

Jesus said to pick up His cross, which was to keep the commandments of God to do His will,
and follow Him.

Jesus' cross, not a Roman cross.

Jesus didn't own the cross they hung Him on.
That was still government property.
Paul

1 Corinthians 1:18 - For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[comingfrom]

Thank you for confirming my bullock, MOTC.

And thank you for offering up Jimmy's bullock.

And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his Commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the Earth (Deuteronomy 28:1)

In this tremendous Chapter, we have a promise of Blessings which are absolutely unparalleled. Some may argue that the Lord did these things for Israel under the Old Covenant, but will not do them for modern Christians under the New Covenant. There is nothing in the Word of God that even remotely lends credence to such an idea. We presently have, in fact, a much better Covenant, based on better Promises than anything in the Old Covenant (Hebrews 8:6).

In this panoply of Promises, five great things are said.
They are:
1. "And all these blessings shall come on you, and overtake you": This literally means that the blessings of the Lord will literally chase down the individual. What a promise! (Deuteronomy 28:2).

2. "The LORD shall command the Blessing upon you": At this moment, if we will only believe it, the Lord is commanding blessing upon us. We must believe it, expect it, and receive it (Deuteronomy 28:8).

3. "And the LORD shall make you plenteous in goods": "Plenty" is what the Lord here promises. The word "goods" means everything that we need, whatever it might be (Deuteronomy 28:11).

4. "The LORD shall open unto you His good treasure": The Lord here tells us that we Believers literally have access to the treasure house of Heaven. Again, what a Promise! (Deuteronomy 28:12)

5. "And the LORD shall make you the head and not the tail": To use an earthly vernacular, someone, regarding an Alaskan dog-sled team, has well said, "if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes." To continue to use the earthly vernacular, the Lord intends for His People to be the "lead dog" (Deuteronomy 28:13).

All of this is made possible by the Cross!

A Daily Devotional by Jimmy Swaggart
​

How can a cross do that.

All those promises are to the law keepers.
Or, to those that overcome [the cherubim that keep us out of the way of God's commandment]. (Rev 2 & 3)
Jimmy is taking the promises of God, and saying
because the Lord died on the cross, we don't have to do what He commands.
He is breaking the words of Jesus, taking what he wants, and dropping off what Lord says to do.
God calls that a torn beast.

And then we can follow the Jimmy's of this world instead?
And keep their sayings instead of God's commandments and judgments?
That's not right.
Look at that first verse again.
Jesus says, "if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God,
to observe and to do all his Commandments which I command thee this day"

Then the blessings shall come to pass.

When that was given, "this day" was Moses' day.
Wasn't it.

You make me want to say, Oh ye wicked men.
Ye will dip into His law to steal the treasures,
but ye will not keep His commandments!

But I'll say this instead.
Bless Jesus
Paul

He that hath an ear,
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
To him that overcomes will I give to eat of the tree of life,
which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

And he that overcomes, and keeps My works unto the end,
to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 2:7 & 26
​

 

[20]

First principal of Christian giving,Give, and it will given to you, A good measure, pressed down ...KJVLuke6:38 38. "Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into you bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again." Second principal of Christian giving, Who is kind to the poor lend to the Lord and he will reward him ...KJVProverbs19:17 17." He that has pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord; and that which he hath given will he pay him again."Third principal of Christian giving,We do the same as Jesus did KJV2Corinthians8;9 9."For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that,though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich."

 

[Dino246]

I shared my own experiences. If you have a problem with someone's personal convictions and beliefs about tithing that is not my problem. I shared what I believe and you are free to share what you believe.

I believe what the Bible says about us being the seed of Abraham and daughters of Sarah. Gal.3:29

[SUP]29 [/SUP]And if ye are Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, heirs according to promise.

There are certain aspects to this identity that mean something to us under the new covenant. But actually I'm not up for discussing this subject with someone like you this evening who must use sarcasm instead of respect and reason.

My post was indeed sarcastic, not because I harbour any ill will toward you personally (I don't), but because I have been dealing with bad teaching regarding tithing for twenty years. I have seen the "tithe like Abraham tithed" argument many times, and it is never presented in context from someone who advocates tithing for Christians.

I have no problem with people sharing their views, but as this is a discussion forum, it is also reasonable to question views that are not consistent with Scripture. In Christ, we are indeed heirs of Abraham's promise... but that still has nothing to do with tithing.