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God is real, God is the Father of Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah, the Christ. Christians literally translates to followers of Christ, so believers of Jesus and Christ are Christians. That's the core doctrine of Christianity I always thought anyways.
As for non-essential doctrines, lol, pick your favorite flavor of heresy I suppose, there are many, mostly broken along denominational lines, doctrines made by some dead men from only a paltry few hundred years a go or less. Too much smelling them TULIPS and the most ironically ungracious debates about grace. The Bible is all you really need, praise God sang the saints, the prophets, the apostles, and kings of history's highest lore for the Lord.
As for non-essential doctrines, lol, pick your favorite flavor of heresy I suppose, there are many, mostly broken along denominational lines, doctrines made by some dead men from only a paltry few hundred years a go or less. Too much smelling them TULIPS and the most ironically ungracious debates about grace. The Bible is all you really need, praise God sang the saints, the prophets, the apostles, and kings of history's highest lore for the Lord.
That depends on who is in the room at the time. Sometimes if you go in there and they are talking about some real issues it's not a waste of time. It gets to be a real waste of time when certain ones in there make it about their jokes. Then they make jokes about everything and everyone no matter how important the subject is or the need of the person. Someone may try to ask a really great question but they get over run by the certain joksters in there.
It all depends on the time you go in the BSR
It all depends on the time you go in the BSR
The Holy Spirit uses the preaching of the Gospel to bring sinners to the Savior. If the preacher is true to the Bible, he cannot help stating that the Savior Himself is sinless. Which brings one right back to the virgin birth. It is an unavoidable part of the true Gospel. Sinners must hear and know that the only way that the penalty for their sins could paid is if the Savior Himself was sinless.
To continue addressing what you failed to disclose in the last thread:
What doctrines do you believe in?
Forget the non-essential. You are just baiting people. We want to hear your beliefs! Amazing you are on your second thread, and have yet to reveal what you believe, about anything! Somehow, that leads me to believe you actually are engaged in some kind of philosophy or psychological research, of seeing how long you can bait people without getting banned.
Because, you know, Christians are so stupid, they don't know what they believe and what they don't believe! Well, I posted what I believe. I also believe eschatology is something we can only guess at, although there is a right answer, we are not privileged to know what that is, at this time!
What doctrines does the OP believe in?
What doctrines do you believe in?
Forget the non-essential. You are just baiting people. We want to hear your beliefs! Amazing you are on your second thread, and have yet to reveal what you believe, about anything! Somehow, that leads me to believe you actually are engaged in some kind of philosophy or psychological research, of seeing how long you can bait people without getting banned.
Because, you know, Christians are so stupid, they don't know what they believe and what they don't believe! Well, I posted what I believe. I also believe eschatology is something we can only guess at, although there is a right answer, we are not privileged to know what that is, at this time!
What doctrines does the OP believe in?
Maybe, but ignorance is possible too and more likely. I think too much of the denominational stuff, their non-essential man made doctrines push out the essential correct doctrine of Christ, of even the Bible, which for millennia has been the obvious textual doctrine of Christianity. Or if it is malice, maybe not malice towards God, but one another, what is the context of their chat and so forth. Then I think well if it be that their man-made doctrines be non-essential and they essentially don't want or like or understand the essential correct doctrines of Christ then they themselves are non-essential; why then even bother reading along or arguing with them? Maybe some will understand one day, maybe some won't. Praise God and maybe it could inspire at least one, maybe even some to read one of the four Gospels to want to learn more about Jesus.
[for me anyway] none: but there are many professing Christians deceived into believing in a no cost faith in which nothing is required of them, and with any scripture that opposes their belief they dismiss it as something that does not apply to them; of course such beliefs are carnally minded and worldly, as being a friend of the world. The Lord Jesus Christ warned us of this, saying "Remember Lot's wife"; and in another saying "No man having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God." These are they that want to have it both ways; first their will, and then some of God's will: by the way these are they that also refuse to deny their own will, which Christ tells us plainly that anyone that would follow Him must do.
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I certainly agree that no doctrine is intended to be ignored. There are however many doctrines concerning which there is not universal agreement among believers regarding their correct interpretation. One example is the doctrine of election.
Since people who give ample evidence of salvation disagree on how this doctrine; it can be deemed non-essential to Salvation.
Such a designation does not make it in any way unimportant! I think that in a topic such as this a presumption that the designation 'non-eesential' applies to Salvation is justified.
Since people who give ample evidence of salvation disagree on how this doctrine; it can be deemed non-essential to Salvation.
Such a designation does not make it in any way unimportant! I think that in a topic such as this a presumption that the designation 'non-eesential' applies to Salvation is justified.
Where is the reference to the virgin birth in Peter's presentation of the gospel below for the first time to the Gentiles?
Acts 2:[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:[SUP] 35 [/SUP]But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.[SUP]36 [/SUP]The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
[SUP] 37 [/SUP]That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;[SUP] 38 [/SUP]How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.[SUP] 39 [/SUP]And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:[SUP] 40 [/SUP]Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;[SUP] 41 [/SUP]Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.[SUP] 42 [/SUP]And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.[SUP] 43 [/SUP]To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.[SUP] 44 [/SUP]While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
This seems to be the exact speech that Peter had given, but I do not see the necessity of preaching the virgin birth as an important fact for sinners to know and believe in before accepting the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The same goes for the day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but some Jews heard the gospel without mentioning the virgin birth, believed, and got saved anyway.
I do not think mentioning the virgin birth in any gospel presentation is necessary for sinners to believe in Him to be saved.
It is a part of learning more about Him in becoming a disciple, but not necessarily part of the gospel presentation in order to be saved.
Acts 2:[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:[SUP] 35 [/SUP]But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.[SUP]36 [/SUP]The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
[SUP] 37 [/SUP]That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;[SUP] 38 [/SUP]How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.[SUP] 39 [/SUP]And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:[SUP] 40 [/SUP]Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;[SUP] 41 [/SUP]Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.[SUP] 42 [/SUP]And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.[SUP] 43 [/SUP]To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.[SUP] 44 [/SUP]While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.This seems to be the exact speech that Peter had given, but I do not see the necessity of preaching the virgin birth as an important fact for sinners to know and believe in before accepting the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The same goes for the day of Pentecost in Acts 2, but some Jews heard the gospel without mentioning the virgin birth, believed, and got saved anyway.
I do not think mentioning the virgin birth in any gospel presentation is necessary for sinners to believe in Him to be saved.
It is a part of learning more about Him in becoming a disciple, but not necessarily part of the gospel presentation in order to be saved.