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Romans 7
7What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
You need to learn that GOD’s Law did not change it is we that Change inwardly by GOD’s Grace through Faith in Christ can we receive the Holy Spirit..
If you do not perceive the difference and why the 10 were written in Stone and then to be writtten in our hearts and put in our minds.. you should search the Scriptures..
The Lord’s Testament declares the Commandments are to be Kept.. the Law of Love..
7What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
You need to learn that GOD’s Law did not change it is we that Change inwardly by GOD’s Grace through Faith in Christ can we receive the Holy Spirit..
If you do not perceive the difference and why the 10 were written in Stone and then to be writtten in our hearts and put in our minds.. you should search the Scriptures..
The Lord’s Testament declares the Commandments are to be Kept.. the Law of Love..
It was written by the Hand of the Most High;
Exodus 31:18, “And when He had ended speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Mosheh two tablets of the Witness, tablets of stone, written with the finger of the Mighty One.”
Deuteronomy 9:10-11, “Then יהוהgave me the two tablets of stone written with the finger of the Mighty One, and on them were all the Words which יהוה had spoken to you on the mountain from the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly. And it came to be, at the end of forty days and forty nights, that יהוהgave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant.”
and it was not any regular stone;
Exodus 24:10-12, "24:10, "and they saw the Mighty One of Yisra’yl, and under His feet like a paved work of sapphire stone, and like the heavens for brightness. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the chiefs of the children of Yisra’yl! And they saw Elohim, and they ate and drank. And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the command which I have written, to teach them.”
and if you beleive the Messiah the Law of YHWH stands. no Levitical preiesthood as in Moses day, now Yahshua is the High Priest
Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
Exodus 31:18, “And when He had ended speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Mosheh two tablets of the Witness, tablets of stone, written with the finger of the Mighty One.”
Deuteronomy 9:10-11, “Then יהוהgave me the two tablets of stone written with the finger of the Mighty One, and on them were all the Words which יהוה had spoken to you on the mountain from the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly. And it came to be, at the end of forty days and forty nights, that יהוהgave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant.”
and it was not any regular stone;
Exodus 24:10-12, "24:10, "and they saw the Mighty One of Yisra’yl, and under His feet like a paved work of sapphire stone, and like the heavens for brightness. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the chiefs of the children of Yisra’yl! And they saw Elohim, and they ate and drank. And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there, while I give you tablets of stone, and the Torah and the command which I have written, to teach them.”
and if you beleive the Messiah the Law of YHWH stands. no Levitical preiesthood as in Moses day, now Yahshua is the High Priest
Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
If we seek the law of Righteousness by works we stumble at the Rock... if we seek the law of Righteousness through Faith in Christ.. we obtain it... and are freed under Grace at liberty to Love GOD and each other.. yet to believe the Sabbath is somehow against Loving GOD is unbelieving of the Lord’s Testament.. it is taught... I believe the Lord... if the Lord had said you have heard it said before Remember to Keep the Sabbath Holy.. but I say unto you you no longer have to.. then I could see where all were coming from but the Lord states He is the Lord of the Sabbath and that Sabbath was made for man not man for Sabbath and that it is lawful to do good.... and GOD stated that He shows mercy to those that Love Him and Keep His Commandments.. So if I’m under Grace at Liberty after being loved and forgiven by the Lord then my new seed is going to be watered and grow by Believing the Lord and doing what He instructs.. an unworthy servant and no boast..
Faith is increased by doing what He tells us to do..
The Believing branch lives through the Good Root and all fruit on the branch is of the Good Root... the Branch does not produce good fruit of itself.. because by itself it has no Root and is dead...
Faith is increased by doing what He tells us to do..
The Believing branch lives through the Good Root and all fruit on the branch is of the Good Root... the Branch does not produce good fruit of itself.. because by itself it has no Root and is dead...
Do you keep the speed limit out fear of being prosecuted or respect for your government?
The thing is you will have people keeping the speed limit because 1) they understand that if we drive like maniacs we will eventually end up in an accidents and they have respect for their fellow road user and the government 2) out of fear for paying a ticket and they don't have the money.
The same goes for us keeping God's instruction, you will have people keeping it because they love God and want to build relationship with Him, then you have people keeping it out of fear for being punished.
The thing is you will have people keeping the speed limit because 1) they understand that if we drive like maniacs we will eventually end up in an accidents and they have respect for their fellow road user and the government 2) out of fear for paying a ticket and they don't have the money.
The same goes for us keeping God's instruction, you will have people keeping it because they love God and want to build relationship with Him, then you have people keeping it out of fear for being punished.
"The same goes for us keeping God's instruction, you will have people keeping it because they love God and want to build relationship with Him, then you have people keeping it out of fear for being punished."
To me? This is the fuller meaning of that Bible verse which says: "The FEAR of God, is the beginning of wisdom."
Why are you trying to attatch that I’m talking about anything other than unto good works?
I’m not accused by being labelled a legalist.. tar and brush comes to mind.. I’m content to Believe the Lord.
We are talking about what the Good Shepherd will see when He looks at His Flock.. did they hear Love and obey Him? Which is to Believe...
I’m not accused by being labelled a legalist.. tar and brush comes to mind.. I’m content to Believe the Lord.
We are talking about what the Good Shepherd will see when He looks at His Flock.. did they hear Love and obey Him? Which is to Believe...
I just want to interject a point that is soooooooooo simple and absolute truth......and it is for ALL who think, believe, push or assume that they KEEP THE LAW.......
UNLESS you KEEP EVERY APPLICABLE LAW...and I mean every JOT and TITTLE 24/7/365 your whole life....YOU CANNOT SAY TRUTHFULLY and BIBLICALLY that YOU KEEP THE LAW.
TO break the LEAST of the commandments...even if BUT 1 TIME your whole LIFE makes you a LAW BREAKER and that which was designed to PROVE GUILT and CONDEMN (THE LAW) WILL NEVER justify and or make right before GOD.....
END of story......the above is TRUE and RIGHT.............................the entire purpose of the LAW was to shut our MOUTHS, PROVE our GUILT and INABILITY to MEET GOD'S standard of righteousness and POINTS US TO JESUS as the ONLY CURE......
UNLESS you KEEP EVERY APPLICABLE LAW...and I mean every JOT and TITTLE 24/7/365 your whole life....YOU CANNOT SAY TRUTHFULLY and BIBLICALLY that YOU KEEP THE LAW.
TO break the LEAST of the commandments...even if BUT 1 TIME your whole LIFE makes you a LAW BREAKER and that which was designed to PROVE GUILT and CONDEMN (THE LAW) WILL NEVER justify and or make right before GOD.....
END of story......the above is TRUE and RIGHT.............................the entire purpose of the LAW was to shut our MOUTHS, PROVE our GUILT and INABILITY to MEET GOD'S standard of righteousness and POINTS US TO JESUS as the ONLY CURE......
The problem is when you obey God out of fear of His disapproval of you., you don't know by faith that He already is fully approving of you in Christ and you can't obey Him more to be more approved. You already have that approval in Christ. What we are doing is walking out what we have already been given in Christ. Our obedience of faith is what matters.
When we walk in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. So many are trying to get the cart before the horse. Trying to walk by the obedience of the law to be approved and accepted is not walking in obedience of faith by the Spirit knowing Jesus already paid for God's approval. If we try to get God's approval by our works we are actually by-passing the work of Jesus in our lives. What we need to do is walk in the knowledge we are approved of God 100% and no longer need to work at that anymore.
When we realize more about this gift Jesus gave us., we are no longer shackled with the chains of working for God's love and approval and are free to work out "from" our salvation in all seriousness of heart and mind by the new man that Jesus birthed in us. We are "now" the sons of God. We don't work "for" victory..., we work "from" victory.
When you know this., the work you do is not a burden or a heavy yoke just as Jesus promised it would not be.
He said His yoke is EASY and His burden is LIGHT. The joy of the Lord is our strength and that is how we have the Joy of the Lord. We are accepted in the beloved and are learning to be who we are in Christ. We cannot be more righteous than we already have been made IN Christ.
When we walk in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. So many are trying to get the cart before the horse. Trying to walk by the obedience of the law to be approved and accepted is not walking in obedience of faith by the Spirit knowing Jesus already paid for God's approval. If we try to get God's approval by our works we are actually by-passing the work of Jesus in our lives. What we need to do is walk in the knowledge we are approved of God 100% and no longer need to work at that anymore.
When we realize more about this gift Jesus gave us., we are no longer shackled with the chains of working for God's love and approval and are free to work out "from" our salvation in all seriousness of heart and mind by the new man that Jesus birthed in us. We are "now" the sons of God. We don't work "for" victory..., we work "from" victory.
When you know this., the work you do is not a burden or a heavy yoke just as Jesus promised it would not be.
He said His yoke is EASY and His burden is LIGHT. The joy of the Lord is our strength and that is how we have the Joy of the Lord. We are accepted in the beloved and are learning to be who we are in Christ. We cannot be more righteous than we already have been made IN Christ.
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You need to learn that I never said Gods law changed, I said Gods law was given for a specific purpose. That purpose is to lead us to christ.
It is the law of Derath paul calls it, It is the law which brings a curse paul calls it.
It will not save you
it will not bring you to spiritual maturity
it will not make you a holy set apart christian, it was not designed for those things.
But you want to keep pushing them, Good luck with that.
It is the law of Derath paul calls it, It is the law which brings a curse paul calls it.
It will not save you
it will not bring you to spiritual maturity
it will not make you a holy set apart christian, it was not designed for those things.
But you want to keep pushing them, Good luck with that.