Ever wonder what "chewing the cud" represents in spiritual terms? :)

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KelbyofGod

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preacher4truth said:
You've offered nothing applicable, insightful, or even biblical about what God allegedly revealed to you. There is no conclusion. Absolutely no insight has been offered. :confused:
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My apologies...
The particular post you were referencing was meant to be just a friendly answer to Trofimus, who has shown himself friendly to me. It wasn't meant to be particularly profound, insightfu or detailed...just friendly. I purposely didn't include what God had revealed because I felt confident that Trofimus would not hesitate to ask for more details if he wanted/needed them.

But again, the mistake was mine in not quoting or mentioning Trofimus in the post you referenced.


In a nutshell, Barnabas' explanation is just plain vague, ...he doesn't offer anything new, nor does he use clarity of speech.
More specifically...in what starts to sound like an explanation he starts by saying "Cleave to" and then lists several attributes (which I assumed might be an attempt at explanation of what chewing the cud means) but then concludes the list by including "AND with those who chew the cud of the word of the Lord" <--which means the earlier part of the list is NOT describing the meaning of chewing the cud. That is in contrast to how/what I received while seeking God on the matter.

What God showed me was clear:
1) Chewing the cud (in spiritual terms) = going AGAIN to God, to seek deeper meaning of something he's already given you once.
2) it's what makes you a DISCIPLE
3) it's what makes deeper revelation available to you
4) it's only one HALF of what is required if you'd like to be considered palatable in God's eyes. (because the animal had to have BOTH attributes to be considered clean...not just one)

Again, you are encouraged to seek God until he shows you if any or all of those points are true. Then feel free to return and offer a more accurate explanation, if appropriate.

Thanks for reading and commenting,
Kelby
 
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KelbyofGod

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Stunnedbygrace said:
Your idea re:those seeking greater understanding fits with the parable of the blind men healed. Only the one who came back received even clearer sight. The other one went out and sought men to tell that he could see...

The parable has more meaning than at first glance because it should be obvious Jesus didn't NEED two tries to get a healing right!
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Thank you. I'm glad you are able to see it in other happenings as well. I hadn't put it together with those references.
 
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Stunnedbygrace

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I was thinking again about your thread (as I was eating) and I remembered the phrase: chew on it for awhile and also: let me ruminate on that for awhile and get back to you on it.

This led to: taste and see that the Lord is good, which is a verse.:)

So...just wanted to add that.:)
 
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Stunnedbygrace

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Oh I forgot the other one-the verse about eating His flesh came more into focus for me. He is the word manifested/made flesh. So when He said eat my flesh, it made sense to me suddenly.
 
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KelbyofGod said:
My apologies...
What God showed me was clear:
1) Chewing the cud (in spiritual terms) = going AGAIN to God, to seek deeper meaning of something he's already given you once.
2) it's what makes you a DISCIPLE
3) it's what makes deeper revelation available to you
4) it's only one HALF of what is required if you'd like to be considered palatable in God's eyes. (because the animal had to have BOTH attributes to be considered clean...not just one)
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Wait...you're just reiterating in different words what Barnabas already said. If those were your conclusions, there was no need for you to reject Barnabas, as you did, because you're both saying similar things. If it was so clear, why didn't you just mention it in the first place?

We are to test the spirits, whether from God; 1 John 4:1. I would desire you to do the same with me, test what I say, others say concerning what God has said. Inquire. Any person claiming revelation should not shun such inquiries or think the person isn't being friendly.

Persons who claim extra-biblical revelation do the same things; they claim a vision (or whatever) and it is generally vague, ambiguous, intangible and non-conclusive. This leaves both ends open by never claiming anything really, yet claiming "it"came from God. We are always left with what exactly what "it" is since it really is never mentioned. Beth Moore is famous for this as are all who claim revelation. "God told me something big is about to happen!!!!" w/o saying what it is.

That's imho deceitful and deceptive.

Also, I don't think your event was revelation, it is more along the lines of feelings and applications, yet not exactly biblically based. For example the clover and the cloven hoof thing.

Kelby, do you have a verse in Scripture that shows how these two things correlate? See what I did there? I desire biblical support for your event, something from Scripture to back up what you're teaching. This is how we test the spirits, with the Word.

I encourage you to stick to the Word and to sound doctrine, to get yourself grounded in Scripture, not gut feelings, "events" and other extra-biblical novelties which have no grounding in Scripture and no real meaning or end point.

There are many Montanists these days, an erroneous teaching that has rightfully been rejected by the church. God has revealed all we need to know in the Word, there is no longer any ongoing new revelation.
 
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Stunnedbygrace

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preacher4truth said:
Wait...you're just reiterating in different words what Barnabas already said. If those were your conclusions, there was no need for you to reject Barnabas, as you did, because you're both saying similar things. If it was so clear, why didn't you just mention it in the first place?

We are to test the spirits, whether from God; 1 John 4:1. I would desire you to do the same with me, test what I say, others say concerning what God has said. Inquire. Any person claiming revelation should not shun such inquiries or think the person isn't being friendly.

Persons who claim extra-biblical revelation do the same things; they claim a vision (or whatever) and it is generally vague, ambiguous, intangible and non-conclusive. This leaves both ends open by never claiming anything really, yet claiming "it"came from God. We are always left with what exactly what "it" is since it really is never mentioned. Beth Moore is famous for this as are all who claim revelation. "God told me something big is about to happen!!!!" w/o saying what it is.

That's imho deceitful and deceptive.

Also, I don't think your event was revelation, it is more along the lines of feelings and applications, yet not exactly biblically based. For example the clover and the cloven hoof thing.

Kelby, do you have a verse in Scripture that shows how these two things correlate? See what I did there? I desire biblical support for your event, something from Scripture to back up what you're teaching. This is how we test the spirits, with the Word.

I encourage you to stick to the Word and to sound doctrine, to get yourself grounded in Scripture, not gut feelings, "events" and other extra-biblical novelties which have no grounding in Scripture and no real meaning or end point.

There are many Montanists these days, an erroneous teaching that has rightfully been rejected by the church. God has revealed all we need to know in the Word, there is no longer any ongoing new revelation.
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I don't think she was claiming a new revelation, just what had been shown her regarding the Spirit of that part of the law. He gives us more understanding of the spirit of the words as we are able to bear more. ​
 
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