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John's baptism is a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins (Mark 1:4). Those with a repentant heart were baptized so that their sins would be forgiven. John spoke of another who would come later to baptize with the Holy Spirit. What this Holy Spirit baptism means is a very debated subject. Nevertheless this Holy Spirit baptism does not invalidate water baptism's connection with the forgiveness of sins.
Peter proclaimed the same message as John when asked in Acts 2 about the need for the remission of sins. His answer was "repent and be baptized so that your sins will be forgiven", he adds that by doing this they will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
This is an honest and straight forward understanding of baptism's role in the bible. Baptism is not mentioned as a symbol of a past event of forgiveness of sins but the point of the forgiveness of sin.
Peter proclaimed the same message as John when asked in Acts 2 about the need for the remission of sins. His answer was "repent and be baptized so that your sins will be forgiven", he adds that by doing this they will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
This is an honest and straight forward understanding of baptism's role in the bible. Baptism is not mentioned as a symbol of a past event of forgiveness of sins but the point of the forgiveness of sin.
Being baptized is obeying the gospel, and the Bible says that those who refuse to obey the gospel will experience the vengeance of God- therefore to not be baptized is to not be saved- therefore to be baptized is to be saved- like 1 Peter 3:21 says.
Only those in Christ will be saved, and baptism is what puts us into Christ (Romans 6:3), therefore yes, it is extremely needed. Our obedience in baptism does not earn salvation, but God only gives it to those who obey. He does not give it to the murderers, drunkards, homosexuals, kidnappers, and the like who give no effort to obey Him.
Only those in Christ will be saved, and baptism is what puts us into Christ (Romans 6:3), therefore yes, it is extremely needed. Our obedience in baptism does not earn salvation, but God only gives it to those who obey. He does not give it to the murderers, drunkards, homosexuals, kidnappers, and the like who give no effort to obey Him.
Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the holy spirit.
What needs to be looked at is that word "for" and how it's used and does that use of the word fit in with the rest of Scripture. An example of how the word "for" might be used here is if I said to someone with a cold, "Use a cough drop for your sore throat" I would be saying to gain a sore throat by using a cough drop, I would be saying use it because you have a sore throat.
Salvation is through faith alone, if salvation came through baptsim that would be a work.
What needs to be looked at is that word "for" and how it's used and does that use of the word fit in with the rest of Scripture. An example of how the word "for" might be used here is if I said to someone with a cold, "Use a cough drop for your sore throat" I would be saying to gain a sore throat by using a cough drop, I would be saying use it because you have a sore throat.
Salvation is through faith alone, if salvation came through baptsim that would be a work.
The word "eis" in Greek means "so that" which is why many bibles use "so that" in Acts 2:38, look up the many translations in Bible Hub or Bible Gateway to see this. There are no bibles that use "because of" as you are suggesting. On your example of the sore throat, why would someone "use a cough drop", to get the remission of "your sore throat".
No cough drop, no remission of your sore throat.
All the faith in the world will not save without the proper response to God's call for the remission of sins.
No cough drop, no remission of your sore throat.
All the faith in the world will not save without the proper response to God's call for the remission of sins.
Faith is not symbolic but baptism is clearly symbolic of the fact that the believer died, was buried, and rose again with Christ in order to walk in newness of life. So if someone says that it is the outward expression of an inward reality, then that too is acceptable.
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: (Rom 6:3-5).
That word "likeness" indicates symbolism.
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: (Rom 6:3-5).
That word "likeness" indicates symbolism.
No. It was my confession of faith befor man. Y-shua went into the water and took a stand, drew the line in the sand so to speak, before G-d and all man. Salvation is private, or can be, if you're not in a church. Baptism, one takes a stand. Stands not just befor G-d but G-d and man and demonstrates their decision.
I have typed this before, but I dated some guy who was/is church of christ and tried to tell me I was not saved because I did not know I had to be baptised to be saved. I wrote him a 10 page paper on baptism handed it to him and dumped him. The long and short of it is. I called on the name of the Lord, I believed in my heart I would be saved. And I was saved.
FYI: Latter I was baptised. But I got saved in February 13, 1991, the date me and the Lover of My Soul joined as one.
I have typed this before, but I dated some guy who was/is church of christ and tried to tell me I was not saved because I did not know I had to be baptised to be saved. I wrote him a 10 page paper on baptism handed it to him and dumped him. The long and short of it is. I called on the name of the Lord, I believed in my heart I would be saved. And I was saved.
FYI: Latter I was baptised. But I got saved in February 13, 1991, the date me and the Lover of My Soul joined as one.
