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JaumeJ

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For the sake of peace I have requested this thread be yanked. I have left two other threads for the sake of peace and have been followed every time........this iss no. 3, and it is my own thread. God bless all in Jesus c¨hrist and who actually do hear Him, amen.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This is so sad.
I know both of u, eternally grateful and JaumeJ. I find it sad that u guys seem to be anything but cherishing each other with your differences.
Your both really good people. If yall can't stand each other then please dont picker like chickens in the chickencoop. No matter if someonw followed anyone. Lets just let this go

It is not my differences sis, I could care less really if he believes as I do, And non of the arguments are even based on those differences.

But when people continually say others believe, or have said things which have not been said, there comes a time when enough is enough.

Everyone has a breaking point..

Anyway, OPff the track again, lets keep on topic.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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For the sake of peace I have requested this thread be yanked. I have left two other threads for the sake of peace and have been followed every time........this iss no. 3, and it is my own thread. God bless all in Jesus c¨hrist and who actually do hear Him, amen.

There he goes again.

It will never stop.. until people hold others accountable.

JJ I suggest you ignore me and never respond to me again, Because every time you respond to or at me saying I have said something I have never said, I will call you out on it, and continue to do so until you repent.

If you do not like being called out for those things, then just stop doing it, then denying it when your called out
 
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Why do you not go back to the first post. That’s sad you go to a post halfway through the thread and then attack me.. Shame on you.

No eg, shame on you if this is how you treat a 73 year old man. Will you be happy after you have run around hounding him to his grave?
 
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1. Did I attack him? No I did not

Did i ask him to repent from what he did in my last thread?

No I did not

Did I judge his believe? No I did not

All I did was say I hope th eOP understands that everyone believes that faith without works is dead. There is no one who denies that, But I hope we can discuss what it is that seperate4s us in our belief.

And thats wrong??

Lol whatever.

His address to me was an attack, It was not based on anything else.

Who is judging, Are you judge and jury now, you know my motives?




ok news flash. When someone slanders another person. I WILL CONFRONT THAT PERSON.

If people do not like it, Thats to bad.

Ever wonder why it is only a few select people and the problems are the same?

Maytbe your part of the issue, instead of confronting them y0ourself and saying people like EG have a point, he does not believe this, so why do you not prove your accusations against him, You instead attack the person being attacked.

Way to go sister.


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I'm not attacking you, I am trying to reason with you.
 

JaumeJ

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Dear ones, I am 73, and that surpriseds me a lot because of my past issues in life, but I am far from kicking. Last week or maybe the week before, I actually cut down to cypress trees. I have broken thrugh the sement in my patio to plant many trees and shrubes with a hand mallet. All of this by the grace of God.....Now I could go tonight, and should I it will be a wonderful experience. I know because onece I was at the point of death (Ithought) and I found myself talking to ur Father saying, "This is a big step, and it is wonderfulo."

So should I kick, even tonight, it will not be because someone does not realize his working is not saying what he thinks it says, it will by the Lord's time for me. If I were to go off being sober minded, I would be having a bit of a chortel right now.

I love you all in Jesus Christ, and He will make all correct, yuppers, He will. He always has, praise Him always.
 
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Again, this can all stop right here and right now. Prove your accusations against me. And it will be done..

You do not even have to go to the other thread. Just prove I attacked you in my first post in this op.. We have to start somewhere
We have all watched you follow him around wherever he goes for quite a few days now. You are out of control in this, but you won't listen to us when we ask you to please stop.
 

stonesoffire

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Hi EG

Ive stayed out of this thread because I thought it would come to this.

What I know about Jaume, is he has the baptism of Holy Spirit because we spoke about this in another thread many weeks ago. He gave testimony about how the Lord worked miracles for him so he does trust Him.

Where I think the disconnect is, there are some of us who believe that all Jesus did and said was for the benefit of Israel, to prove Himself to be the sacrifice of atonement that the scriptures were proclaiming in allegorical pictures. And that He was God in flesh. Something that even His disciples did not realize until the ressurection.

That the truth of the body of Christ was given to Paul. The revelation of the mystery of Christ in us, the hope of glory.

I think that he and others think because of this understanding, believe then that we are putting our attention on Paul, and not on the sayings of Jesus.

Well, in a way we are. So I don't know how to remedy this.

Just an addon for clarity. The ressurection and ascension of Jesus, shows the purpose of His leaving. He said that the comforter wouldn't come until He left.

The revelation of Paul is to reveal the work of Holy Spirit, not law.

That was the not by works answer, that Dcon and his "cohorts" :) continually gave over and over in many different ways, and many many posts.
 
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stonesoffire

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We have all watched you follow him around wherever he goes for quite a few days now. You are out of control in this, but you won't listen to us when we ask you to please stop.

Well, this doesn't help either Stunned.
 

JaumeJ

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I have stated in the past and I will in the future....Paul teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ. His letters are to various assemblies with various particular difficulties which he addresses, an that right well.

Now Paul teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ and declares there is no other gospel. He also teaches people are sying "I belong to Paul, or I belong to Peter," pointing out that there is ony One SAvior. Because we are not of Ephesus or Galatia, we are free to learn directly from God as we are invited to by Jeus Christ. Paul did, and we may also.

If many wish to continueally wade through the problems of other assemblies as thoughthe problems are currently their own, then, so beit. I learn much from Paul, about lots, but I learn everythig from Jesus Christ.

We must learn from Jesus Christ, and we all do who actually learn, however some will take much longer learnign through Paul since he is not actually writing down the Gospel for us as did the Evangelists Matthew, Mark, Luke ad John.

Yes you will earn much from Paul, but he rerally is not necessary if yo learn from Jesus Christ for it is written "You will be taught by God." I believe this.......and Yes, i STUDY Paqul also, but Jesus is my constant Surce Authority, and there is no harm here............ God bless all. I will continue posting as long as this post is not yanked as per my own request.


Hi EG

Ive stayed out of this thread because I thought it would come to this.

What I know about Jaume, is he has the baptism of Holy Spirit because we spoke about this in another thread many weeks ago. He gave testimony about how the Lord worked miracles for him so he does trust Him.

Where I think the disconnect is, there are some of us who believe that all Jesus did and said was for the benefit of Israel, to prove Himself to be the sacrifice of atonement that the scriptures were proclaiming in allegorical pictures. And that He was God in flesh. Something that even His disciples did not realize until the ressurection.

That the truth of the body of Christ was given to Paul. The revelation of the mystery of Christ in us, the hope of glory.

I think that he and others think because of this understanding, believe then that we are putting our attention on Paul, and not on the sayings of Jesus.

Well, in a way we are. So I don't know how to remedy this.
 

stonesoffire

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It's a matter of what we deem important in the scriptures. I can side with EG because my understanding is the same as I study the scriptures.

The issue really is personalities isn't it? So EG is fiery. Nothing wrong with being hot.

Read beyond to the truth of what he is saying. Then look at the testimonies of Jaume. There is faith.

So now what? Until there is the same understanding, there will be this disconnect.

? Anyone know an answer?
 

stonesoffire

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Jesus was revealed to be the Saviour of the world. Then the revelation that was given only to Paul Jaume, proclaim what all this entails.

So to say Paul is not needed, is IMO, error.

:)

perhaps then, there is where tribes are good. Known too as denominations.

?
 

JaumeJ

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It sounds as though I have been given leave to study as I would study. I have always studed the Word ffrom the "In the beginning" through to the final "amen" of Revelation. This should keep me safe in the area of studies. I have read thrught all of the Bible continually most of thes e pas almost 50 years.......this by no means makes me expert or perfect, however it does qualify me as an avid student of Jesus Christ's Word, or am I mistaken in this thinking.!
 

JaumeJ

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I have heard many say this, that Paul has smething other to reveal to us, yet Paul teaches he preaches the Gospel of Jesus christ only.

He warns agains "belong to Paull, so now I am obliged to ask exactly what is this revelation he was given for us all?. I believe what Jesus said to him was he had more to inform him but not yet......it was abut his own prsonalized mission. Pau has nothing new to add to the Gospel of Jesus Christ other than what the Apostles wrote bout it..........

Jesus was revealed to be the Saviour of the world. Then the revelation that was given only to Paul Jaume, proclaim what all this entails.

So to say Paul is not needed, is IMO, error.

:)

perhaps then, there is where tribes are good. Known too as denominations.

?
 

tourist

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It sounds as though I have been given leave to study as I would study. I have always studed the Word ffrom the "In the beginning" through to the final "amen" of Revelation. This should keep me safe in the area of studies. I have read thrught all of the Bible continually most of thes e pas almost 50 years.......this by no means makes me expert or perfect, however it does qualify me as an avid student of Jesus Christ's Word, or am I mistaken in this thinking.!
I'm working on my fourth reading of the bible myself and this is the first time I have read it from Genesis through Revelation. I would say that you are certainly qualified to be considered an avid student Jesus Christ's Word.
 

JaumeJ

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Thank you, and I believe you are also...God bless you..

I'm working on my fourth reading of the bible myself and this is the first time I have read it from Genesis through Revelation. I would say that you are certainly qualified to be considered an avid student Jesus Christ's Word.
 

notuptome

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I have stated in the past and I will in the future....Paul teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ. His letters are to various assemblies with various particular difficulties which he addresses, an that right well.

Now Paul teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ and declares there is no other gospel. He also teaches people are sying "I belong to Paul, or I belong to Peter," pointing out that there is ony One SAvior. Because we are not of Ephesus or Galatia, we are free to learn directly from God as we are invited to by Jeus Christ. Paul did, and we may also.

If many wish to continueally wade through the problems of other assemblies as thoughthe problems are currently their own, then, so beit. I learn much from Paul, about lots, but I learn everythig from Jesus Christ.

We must learn from Jesus Christ, and we all do who actually learn, however some will take much longer learnign through Paul since he is not actually writing down the Gospel for us as did the Evangelists Matthew, Mark, Luke ad John.

Yes you will earn much from Paul, but he rerally is not necessary if yo learn from Jesus Christ for it is written "You will be taught by God." I believe this.......and Yes, i STUDY Paqul also, but Jesus is my constant Surce Authority, and there is no harm here............ God bless all. I will continue posting as long as this post is not yanked as per my own request.
All of the word of God is given by inspiration of God. Paul wrote what the Holy Spirit moved him to write. The gospels are first hand accounts by the apostles. Paul gives applications of those first hand accounts. Paul was in the presence of the risen Lord on the road to Emmaus.

To quote James that faith without works is dead and to do so without proper context is not being helpful.

Judge not that ye be not judged. Judge righteous judgments.

Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

JaumeJ

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Upon examination you will find I study Paul as well as the rest of the Word....god bless you.
 

Rosemaryx

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I'm working on my fourth reading of the bible myself and this is the first time I have read it from Genesis through Revelation. I would say that you are certainly qualified to be considered an avid student Jesus Christ's Word.
Hi tourist...I have just started Genesis :)...First time for me reading the OT...Writing notes as I go along to what the Holy Spirit is showing me...I must admit after spending the past two years in the NT, and learning who I am in Christ, and learning how to walk in my daily life , I kind of miss being in there, but I know its important to read the OT, I am struggling sometimes but I am enjoying it, learning more about Gods character...xox...
 
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there should be no misunderstanding with regards to what Paul writes

there is but ONE gospel and that is not defined as Paul's gospel and he is the first to state that in his letters

to Paul was revealed a 'mystery' that had not been understood in the OT and that mystery is that God was ushering in all Gentiles into His plan of salvation and not just the Israelites

and Paul says this mystery was revealed to him but he preaches Christ and Jesus is the foundation stone and it is

For no one is able to lay another foundation, besides the one being already laid, which is Jesus Christ. I Corinthians 3:1

so anyone stating differently is in contention with what Paul himself wrote

the actual difference is that Jesus preached to the 'lost house of Israel' while Paul was an Apostle to the Gentiles

what words of Jesus shall we put aside? if He is speaking to the Pharisees then He is speaking to the Pharisees, but pay attention to not have the same attitude as they did