Christ's Teaching

JaumeJ · Nov 16, 2017

I see you have been called upon to continue the pursuit of wearing me down. Praise Jesus Christ, I am not worthy.

Now how is it you say I am in disagreemtn when I have already posted many times in the past and even just a little while ago here that you may follow Paul and learn about Jesus Christ for Paul teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but you must know it is mus simpler to go to Jesus Christ and learn for his yoke is easy and His burden is light.

Going through Paul oneis obliged to filter through all the problems of the various assemblies, while going through the Master you will earn simply His Truth.

Are you now assigned to follow me. You were with that cabal in the other two threads I left.. You really should cease and disist, for yur edeavor is not of Jesus Christ nor is the motivation pure.

gb9 said:

JaumeJ · Nov 16, 2017

Just as in the other threads you are here to fan the flames of the psychosis of others... Tell me, is it very hot where you come from?

gb9 said:

JaumeJ · Nov 16, 2017

There now, all cleaned and swept ut to the dust bin.

gb9 · Nov 16, 2017

I have nothing personal against you. as I said, before the last few days, I did not agree with you on much, but I respected you as an elder. I am not calling you names, nor am I slandering you.

keep in mind, you made the statement about your beliefs on Paul's writings. you, without being directly asked, put that out there. and, I do see your point, I get what you are saying. but, after interacting with you for several years, and learning your law- Sabbath leaning beliefs, I suspect there could be a deeper meaning behind this statement.

I agree that Paul's letters contain much instruction about problem churches. I also know that they talk extensively about not being under the Law. could be a coincidence, but there is evidence to suggest otherwise.

but, you are right about this being your thread. I'm out.

Hizikyah · Nov 16, 2017

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 3:36, “He who believes in the Son possesses everlasting life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of Yah remains on him.”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]does not obey” is word #544 - apeitheó: to disobey, Original Word: ἀπειθέω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: apeitheó, Phonetic Spelling: (ap-i-theh'-o), Short Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, refuse conformity.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]G544 ἀπειθέω apeitheo (a-pei-the'-ō) v., 1. to disbelieve (willfully and perversely)., 2. (by direct extension) to be willfully disobedient., [from G545], KJV: not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving , Root(s): G545 [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."[/FONT]

JaumeJ · Nov 16, 2017

These words of our Savior are clear, beautiful, true and being a bit redundatn, to the point, what a blessing.

Hizikyah said:

John 3:36, “He who believes in the Son possesses everlasting life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of Yah remains on him.”

“does not obey” is word #544 - apeitheó: to disobey, Original Word: ἀπειθέω, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: apeitheó, Phonetic Spelling: (ap-i-theh'-o), Short Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, Definition: I disobey, rebel, am disloyal, refuse conformity.

G544 ἀπειθέω apeitheo (a-pei-the'-ō) v., 1. to disbelieve (willfully and perversely)., 2. (by direct extension) to be willfully disobedient., [from G545], KJV: not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving , Root(s): G545

John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

BillG · Nov 16, 2017

JaumeJ said:

We all know that Jesus summed up the 10 commandments in two.

Matthew 22:37-40

37 Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Here the word for love is agapaō - of persons to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly

Jesus also said

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

What I find intersting is that the word love used in v34 is the same as above agapaō.

Yet the word love in v35 is agapē - brotherly love, affection, good will, love, benevolence

Its obvious love is the focus here yet it seems that 2 words for love are used that seem to have a difference.
Is there a difference?

I am glad you mentioned enemies.
I think sometimes it’s easy to miss this and not realise that we are required to love our enemies.
Jesus has told us to do it

Matthew 5:43-48
Love Your Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

The word for love here is the same as used Matthew above and v34

agapaō - of persons to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly.

It seems to me that Jesus is raising the bar here.

Do not just stop at loving each other who love you, or your neighbour.
Love those who are your enemies, just like God does. He loves his enemies now aspire to that love.
Then we will be perfect as he is (side note to me that’s growing into maturity and not sinless perfection)

Sorry for my long post everyone but if you don’t mind can I finish with the following.

Firstly if we cannot love ourselves then it’s going to be very difficult to love love each other and our enemies.
If we cannot love each other and the world sees we don’t then they will question what we are all about.
If we backbite each other and don’t love each other why would those who do not believe want any part of it?
There may be people who desperately seek true love, if they don’t see it in us who should be the source of the hope of love that accepts the person where they are why would they seek it?

In a sense to me the church is guilty of accepting a person seeking Jesus with love then when they come to Jesus this Love is replaced with “don’t do this don’t do that” then all of sudden acceptance of where they are it is replaced with you should be here.
Not walking alongside like Jesus did to bring healing and freedom for the things that bind them.

Finally and I promise my post is almost over.

If we truly want to be set free ourselves, to love ourselves which will help us love others then we need to know that God loves us as much as he loves Jesus.

Jesus said it himself

John 17:23
23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

agapaō - of persons to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly.

When we get it, others will see because we walk in it.

Just my simple thoughts on Christ’s teachings.

Bill

abcdef · Nov 16, 2017

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could move mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing."

1 Cor 13:1-3

(And even if I am 100% right, and someone else is 100% wrong, on CC, without love, it is ......)

stonesoffire · Nov 16, 2017

abcdef said:

ah ha! You are adding to the word! Lol

Just teasing! I agree with you. I just can't hold that mirror up all the time. 'Comprende?

abcdef · Nov 16, 2017

stonesoffire said:

Life is a balance, if we gaze in the mirror too much, we become self centered.

If we never look at our souls in the mirror, then we are just not concerned enough to care about the condition our soul, or the condition of the soul is just too painful to look at.

Praise Jesus for His mercy and forgiveness. He can take your guilt away. We can be free from sin and guilt.

But sometimes looking in the mirror will help us get rid of the log that is in our eyes.

dcontroversal · Nov 16, 2017

Therefore we conclude (PAUL) that a man is justified by faith without works.......so...........argue with PAUL....

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us.....Argue with PAUL.....

For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast..... Argue with PAUL

FAITH without works is what saves...end of story...any work or fruit is the result of the faith and salvation one already possesses in Christ.....

Start with this before you move on to the steak....

Mercy4u · Nov 16, 2017

dcontroversal said:

Wow. Well said.

The milk has not even been 'homogenized' yet around these parts.

Hard to go onto the meat if all are stuck on the milk.

JaumeJ · Nov 17, 2017

Thanks for the verses true and certain. Please do not post such long post. I have a evice that changes text to voice called my Magent.........All blessings in Jesus Christ. Keep up the very good works.

BillG said:

We all know that Jesus summed up the 10 commandments in two.

Matthew 22:37-40

37 Jesus said to him, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Here the word for love is agapaō - of persons to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly

Jesus also said

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

What I find intersting is that the word love used in v34 is the same as above agapaō.

Yet the word love in v35 is agapē - brotherly love, affection, good will, love, benevolence

Its obvious love is the focus here yet it seems that 2 words for love are used that seem to have a difference.
Is there a difference?

I am glad you mentioned enemies.
I think sometimes it’s easy to miss this and not realise that we are required to love our enemies.
Jesus has told us to do it

Matthew 5:43-48
Love Your Enemies
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

The word for love here is the same as used Matthew above and v34

agapaō - of persons to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly.

It seems to me that Jesus is raising the bar here.

Do not just stop at loving each other who love you, or your neighbour.
Love those who are your enemies, just like God does. He loves his enemies now aspire to that love.
Then we will be perfect as he is (side note to me that’s growing into maturity and not sinless perfection)

Sorry for my long post everyone but if you don’t mind can I finish with the following.

Firstly if we cannot love ourselves then it’s going to be very difficult to love love each other and our enemies.
If we cannot love each other and the world sees we don’t then they will question what we are all about.
If we backbite each other and don’t love each other why would those who do not believe want any part of it?
There may be people who desperately seek true love, if they don’t see it in us who should be the source of the hope of love that accepts the person where they are why would they seek it?

In a sense to me the church is guilty of accepting a person seeking Jesus with love then when they come to Jesus this Love is replaced with “don’t do this don’t do that” then all of sudden acceptance of where they are it is replaced with you should be here.
Not walking alongside like Jesus did to bring healing and freedom for the things that bind them.

Finally and I promise my post is almost over.

If we truly want to be set free ourselves, to love ourselves which will help us love others then we need to know that God loves us as much as he loves Jesus.

Jesus said it himself

John 17:23
23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

agapaō - of persons to welcome, to entertain, to be fond of, to love dearly.

When we get it, others will see because we walk in it.

Just my simple thoughts on Christ’s teachings.

Bill

JaumeJ · Nov 17, 2017

So many in the Old Testament were justified by faith also. Noah, Abraham, Jephtah, Samuel, Daniel, David, and so many more. As is written the prophhets and the saints....."Time would fail to name them all." Jesus Christ is in all of the Word.

It is important to keep foremost in mind that the prophets and the Apostles and Paul repeated the Wor, but Jesus christ is the Source Authority. Learn from any of the prophets, the Apostles or Paul, but time, effort and even pain are instantly alleviated by direct teaching from Jesus Christ...........He does make everything clear and concise.

dcontroversal said:

loveme1 · Nov 17, 2017

dcontroversal said:

I think we all understand that that we are Saved by Grace through Faith.. we are to increase that Faith by doing what the Lord instructs Which is His Teachings... Once saved we live by Faith so we have the Lord leading us into the Kingdom of GOD.

a lost sheep is found without works.. but the Lord that Saves them and put them into His flock with no merit.. is to be Followed on the path of Righteousness.. so we as believers are to Grow in Grace and knowledge of Christ.. but those that fail to obey His voice will not grow in Faith..

We are to make are election sure.. and when we Believe.. we do through Christ within..

dcontroversal · Nov 17, 2017

loveme1 said:

My salvation, justification, sealing, sanctification and election in Christ is secure.....after that it is all reward or chastisement based upon my faithfulness and walk thereof......

FAITHFUL believer being transformed by the word---->Works of gold, silver and precious stones

Unfaithful believer living worldly and stunted in the transformation--->works of wood, hay and stubble

BOTH still saved, in the kingdom and eternally secure in their salvation...albeit two different entrances into the kingdom....ONE in glory the other in shame.....ONE rewarded abundantly the other not so much...One faithful over a few things and made ruler over many the other not so much...........

JaumeJ · Nov 17, 2017

A reminder.......

[h=2]

Christ's Teaching[/h]

When I post here, it is in the spirit of sharing the Word as taught by Jesus Christ. I may not always convey what I understand perfectly, but then the great Teacher is Jesus Christ not I. Even if my rendition may not be perfect the Hoy Spirit will fill in and correct where it is so for the believing reader or hearer.......I believe this.

When posting each day, I ask God to guide my words, and to actually be in them vrom Jesus. I believe He is for any who already believe and are guided by the Holy Spirit.

If at times what I pass on seems offensive, keep in mind my Teacher was taken also as being offensive to the hypocrites.

So with this wordy introduction, I wish to convey from Jesus Christ once more, "Faith without works is no faith at all."

Either you understand this teaching vial Paul from our Lord or you are in darkness related to gratitude.

God bless all in Jesus Christ and who hear Him! God bless all who are not yet there, in Jesus christ's fame, amen.

Mercy4u · Nov 17, 2017

dcontroversal said:

My salvation, justification, sealing, sanctification and election in Christ is secure.....after that it is all reward or chastisement based upon my faithfulness and walk thereof......

FAITHFUL believer being transformed by the word---->Works of gold, silver and precious stones

Unfaithful believer living worldly and stunted in the transformation--->works of wood, hay and stubble

BOTH still saved, in the kingdom and eternally secure in their salvation...albeit two different entrances into the kingdom....ONE in glory the other in shame.....ONE rewarded abundantly the other not so much...One faithful over a few things and made ruler over many the other not so much...........

TRUTH. The absolute best post I have read so far.

JaumeJ · Nov 17, 2017

Mat 25:14 For it is as when a man, going into another country, called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
Mat 25:15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one; to each according to his several ability; and he went on his journey.

Mat 25:16 Straightway he that received the five talents went and traded with them, and made other five talents.
Mat 25:17 In like manner he also that received the two gained other two.
Mat 25:18 But he that received the one went away and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money.
Mat 25:19 Now after a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and maketh a reckoning with them.
Mat 25:20 And he that received the five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: lo, I have gained other five talents.

Mat 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Mat 25:22 And he also that received the two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: lo, I have gained other two talents.

Mat 25:23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Mat 25:24 And he also that had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou didst not sow, and gathering where thou didst not scatter;
Mat 25:25 and I was afraid, and went away and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, thou hast thine own.
Mat 25:26 But his lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I did not scatter;
Mat 25:27 thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the bankers, and at my coming I should have received back mine own with

interest.
Mat 25:28 Take ye away therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him that hath the ten talents.
Mat 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not, even that which he hath shall be taken away.

Mat 25:30 And cast ye out the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.

Will you make gain for the Master, or will you bury your faith in the ground?

loveme1 · Nov 17, 2017

dcontroversal said:

You seem to be confident your Calling and election is sure.. I’m going to stick to what the Lord states. I will strive to enter in at the strait gate.. and believe we should all look to the Good Shepherd because there is no other way.. He will lead us to it..

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