Keep The Faith

[JaumeJ]

It is written in Daniel that people of understanding will be few in the latter moments of what is called this age.

Knowing this, and looking at how things afe today in this age, do not falter rther take courage in that you are of Jesus Christ in spirit and truth,.

When posting inthe forums and it seems many are attempting to make the Word of God you share be only you "theories" and "thinkig" bear i mind these are but short trials and once passed the reward is great.

Never shy away from the good works God gives you........God bless you in your endeavor to prepare the harvest, amen.

 

[Willie-T]

This always puzzles me........ people believing that what and how THEY understand Scripture is THE truth, therefore however anyone else sees God's word HAS to be wrong since it isn't the way THEY see it.

And, it seems each one of us feels that way about both our own personal beliefs AND the other person's "obviously erroneous" beliefs.

 

[mailmandan]

This always puzzles me........ people believing that what and how THEY understand Scripture is THE truth, therefore however anyone else sees God's word HAS to be wrong since it isn't the way THEY see it.

And, it seems each one of us feels that way about both our own personal beliefs AND the other person's "obviously erroneous" beliefs.

Certain people seem to be looking for some kind of "special formula" or "secret ingredient" that they have figured out from God's word, but the rest of us don't have it figured out so we are in trouble.

 

[JaumeJ]

I am very pleased and comfortable with believing the teaching directly from the Master, Jesus Christ.

I know that no man's understanding is perfect other than theunderstanding of the Author of all, Himself.

I do nknow I am on the right track when I am accused of all sorts of evil because Jesus teaches this must needs be.

He is wonderful, loving, personal, anc always careful of us all who believe Him. I know there are several, not a lot, of family members in the forums who are in complete agreement on what is truly important, faith, hope and love.

We also do our best to deflect the darts the enemy may throw out in these forums.....it is our ue, not earning but saying thank You to the One Who suffered and died for us all who believe Him

Thank you for your thoughts on our approach to faith in our Savior.

 

[Willie-T]

So, am I understanding correctly when I hear that no one here is willing to say to someone else, "I don't think God meant what you think He meant, but I believe you heard just as clearly and correctly from God as I did."

 

[JaumeJ]

I am very sorry you hear bells in a different tower than the origin of the sounding.. Do I detect hostility in your personal attack?

I and all whom I know love Jesus Christ do our best to pass on His teacing.........where here do you see this not occurring?

You are making this a personal joust, and I am not. I post in general terms, and I am quite specific on passing on the teahing of Jesus Christ.

If you have a point on His teaching that I have missed, please, by all means show it in your udnerstanding and i love, otherwise you are not supporting the family in Christ you are attacking.

So, am I understanding correctly when I hear that no one here is willing to say to someone else, "I don't think God meant what you think He meant, but I believe you heard just as clearly and correctly from God as I did."

 

[JaumeJ]

I am sorry Willie T. is your reference to my being pleased and comfortable with what I post what you had in mind?

All who believe and hear the Master feel this way............so if this is it, let me know why it is wrong.

 

[Willie-T]

I am sorry Willie T. is your reference to my being pleased and comfortable with what I post what you had in mind?

All who believe and hear the Master feel this way............so if this is it, let me know why it is wrong.

I'm not jumping on any one particular person. I am just saying that we who say whatever we say about how we came to our beliefs, will also say that there is only ONE way to interpret God's word.... that when He says something, He cannot mean two things.

Therefore if two Christians say they see God saying two different things that are opposed to one another.... then one of those Christians (or maybe both of them) has to be wrong. And it always seems to be "the other guy, not me."

Yet, each of us will consistently defend our own position as being the one God gave us through The Holy Spirit....... thus declaring the other guy's position as having to have come from somewhere else.

 

[JaumeJ]

God's ways are not mans ways. Many times I have mentioned that Jesus comes to each of us in the manner each of us needs.

This by no means is saying He ha a different truth for each person, but it is saying He shows each the facet of the truth he or she truly needs to come to Him in faith, hope and love.

You have a way given to you, just as I have a way given to me. jUST AS each believer has different gifst yet we are all of teh same Body.

Yes, there is only one truth, but God, in His wisdom presents it to each of us as each needs to understand. We do share revelations with each other, revelations we have been given of His truth.

No flesh is completely knowledgeable of all truth but we all in the Body of Christ know that the ony thng important is tha Jesus Christ died for our salvation on the cross, and He is the So of god, Firstborn of the Resurrection.

It is the revelations that alo differ, and we will all be fully learned come God's Great and Wonderful Day. We will even be given a name for all to call upon Him, a new name.

Reading in the Word you will find all of this to be true. You are special to Him, and He has the way of understanding just for you, but you know others have other revelations andunderstanding. None of this is more important than our alvation on the cross, but our Father knows it is important to each of us.

It is certain yo have your own personal understanding from Him if you know Jesus christ is your salvation, it is crtian. God bess you always......share your true revelations .it is a worthy work, a good work.

 

[NayborBear]

This always puzzles me........ people believing that what and how THEY understand Scripture is THE truth, therefore however anyone else sees God's word HAS to be wrong since it isn't the way THEY see it.

And, it seems each one of us feels that way about both our own personal beliefs AND the other person's "obviously erroneous" beliefs.

No WillieT? It's more heartbreaking then that, actually. We as Christians should try to build each other up. The "war" it seems, is between people who are more flesh minded, and ones who are more spiritually minded.

This has been a major problem for believers, ever since Constantine, forced Christians to bring in the heathens, and pagans, for the cause of "peace" (where have we heard this before), in his kingdom. It's part of the "church's" history.

One can show a fellow believer where a correction, or course change can, or should be made. What one believer cannot do is make a fellow believer's heart "teachable!" Only God, can do that "increase."


When a fellow believer, realizes that they are casting pearls before swine, and shakes their sandals, while the "pig" comes running after them screaming: "Show ME where I'm wrong!" "Prove ME wrong!" (and) "You slandered ME!"

What can one do? Let the pig win?

Test the "spirit/s", I reckon is all one can do with oneself, eh?

 

[JaumeJ]

Is this another of those coincedence?

I was led to the following scripture this mornign.......

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

No WillieT? It's more heartbreaking then that, actually. We as Christians should try to build each other up. The "war" it seems, is between people who are more flesh minded, and ones who are more spiritually minded.

This has been a major problem for believers, ever since Constantine, forced Christians to bring in the heathens, and pagans, for the cause of "peace" (where have we heard this before), in his kingdom. It's part of the "church's" history.

One can show a fellow believer where a correction, or course change can, or should be made. What one believer cannot do is make a fellow believer's heart "teachable!" Only God, can do that "increase."


When a fellow believer, realizes that they are casting pearls before swine, and shakes their sandals, while the "pig" comes running after them screaming: "Show ME where I'm wrong!" "Prove ME wrong!" (and) "You slandered ME!"

What can one do? Let the pig win?

Test the "spirit/s", I reckon is all one can do with oneself, eh?

 

[NayborBear]

Is this another of those coincedence?

I was led to the following scripture this mornign.......

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Well? I'm not sure there, Brother. What I am sure of, however, is a bit of wisdom I obtained, I think it was Honest Abe Lincoln who said it. "On this super highway called internet? Things are not always as they may appear to the eyes."

 

[JaumeJ]

This is true....

Well? I'm not sure there, Brother. What I am sure of, however, is a bit of wisdom I obtained, I think it was Honest Abe Lincoln who said it. "On this super highway called internet? Things are not always as they may appear to the eyes."

 

[JaumeJ]

To all in Jesus christ, a very important lesson is this, and it is simple,

when you want to see th sharks, throw out some chub..........

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Titus 3:8, “Trustworthy is the word, and in this regard I wish you to strongly affirm, that those who have believed in YHWH should keep their minds on maintaining right works. This is excellent and profitable to men.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”[/FONT]

 

[OneFaith]

This always puzzles me........ people believing that what and how THEY understand Scripture is THE truth, therefore however anyone else sees God's word HAS to be wrong since it isn't the way THEY see it.

And, it seems each one of us feels that way about both our own personal beliefs AND the other person's "obviously erroneous" beliefs.

It is true, the Bible has no private interpretation. The Bible answers itself by its other scriptures that match in perfect harmony with each other. We all have to study for ourselves to the best of our ability.

 

[mailmandan]

Titus 3:8, “Trustworthy is the word, and in this regard I wish you to strongly affirm, that those who have believed in YHWH should keep their minds on maintaining right works. This is excellent and profitable to men.”

Amen! This is what we are saved FOR and NOT BY (Ephesians 2:8-10).

Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”

Hebrews 3:14 - For we have become [past tense Gk. verb, gegonamen, meaning we have become already] partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end." Notice that this is essentially a repeat of verse 6, where we have read: but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house - whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the boast of our hope firm until the end.

The point is that not all Hebrews have become partakers in their promised Messiah. And of course, the only ones in the end who will be identified as truly born again Hebrews who have partaken in Messiah, will have been those who hold the beginning of their confidence steadfast to the end. Yet the faltering Hebrews who depart from God begin with loud confidence and profession of loyalty. But later?

The wording is not - "you will become partakers of Christ (future indicative) if you (future indicative) hold the beginning of your confidence steadfast to the end." It is rather - "you have been, and now are, partakers of Christ (demonstrative evidence) if you hold the beginning of your confidence steadfast to the end."

 

[oldethennew]

how often in my journey did i find myself 'caught' between a 'rock and a hard place'???

Jesus began to teach me how to 'surrender' to His Commands, His Righteousness',
yes, a very slow and often a failing on my part,,,but my heart kept calling me to
understand in His Ways, and then how to obey and believe with all of my heart, to totally TRUST
in HIM and not man: this is where my deliverance truly began, and I only desired
to leave this 'fallen-world' behind me and surrender all of my-self to Him and His ways...

and yes, this is our life's purpose now, hub and myself, to serve and obey Him with all of our hearts...

 

[Willie-T]

It is true, the Bible has no private interpretation. The Bible answers itself by its other scriptures that match in perfect harmony with each other. We all have to study for ourselves to the best of our ability.

And yet, there is no denying that there are as many varying interpretations of many sorts of Scriptures as there are people....... with each person swearing THEIRS is the only correct one unless others agree with theirs.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

This always puzzles me........ people believing that what and how THEY understand Scripture is THE truth, therefore however anyone else sees God's word HAS to be wrong since it isn't the way THEY see it.

And, it seems each one of us feels that way about both our own personal beliefs AND the other person's "obviously erroneous" beliefs.

That Is why the scripture they use to Buttress their Interpretations should also harmonize with the scriptures we use to Buttress our positions since we know that all scripture Is GOD Inspired and If the scriptures they use and the scriptures we use don't harmonize then there Is error.