What is the "unpardonable" sin?

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If I understand scripture correctly, there is only one unpardonable sin. The sin of unbelief. I can be wrong of course. What say you?
 

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If I understand scripture correctly, there is only one unpardonable sin. The sin of unbelief. I can be wrong of course. What say you?
I do not get it. You mean that other sins will be forgiven to everybody, only unbelief will be not?
 

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I do not get it. You mean that other sins will be forgiven to everybody, only unbelief will be not?
How can God forgive us if we do not accept His forgiveness? If we never accept God through His Son Jesus Christ and we die, how can we be forgiven and go to heaven?

I'm probably not explaining myself very well.
 

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How can God forgive us if we do not accept His forgiveness? If we never accept God through His Son Jesus Christ and we die, how can we be forgiven and go to heaven?

I'm probably not explaining myself very well.
So, when we accept God through Jesus Christ, also our unbelief will be forgiven, or not?
 

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How can God forgive us if we do not accept His forgiveness? If we never accept God through His Son Jesus Christ and we die, how can we be forgiven and go to heaven?

I'm probably not explaining myself very well.
Actually, you're explaining yourself quite clearly and explicitly.
 
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The unpardonable or unforgivable sin is mentioned in three of the four Gospels. More specifically, it's mentioned in Matthew 12, Mark 3 and Luke 12.

Jesus mentions in these passages that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

Some say blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unbelief. Others say it's attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the work of demons/Satan or vice versa. Some say it's when you accuse Jesus himself and/or his miracles of being demonic or satanic. And there are other theories of what it is as well.

So what exactly is the unpardonable sin? Well, to put it slightly tongue-in-cheek, it depends on who you ask.
 

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So, when we accept God through Jesus Christ, also our unbelief will be forgiven, or not?
If one accepts God through Jesus Christ there is then no unbelief to be forgiven. I don't believe that unbelief is a sin, however believing in God but rejecting salvation by refusing to repent of one's sins is indeed unforgivable. Even in the bible there a someone asking God to help with his unbelief.
 

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So, when we accept God through Jesus Christ, also our unbelief will be forgiven, or not?
When we accept Jesus Christ, we do so because we have come to belief and repentance, right? We no longer are unbelievers.

However, I could have all of this wrong, thus my question remains "What is the unpardonable sin?"
 

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If one accepts God through Jesus Christ there is then no unbelief to be forgiven. I don't believe that unbelief is a sin, however believing in God but rejecting salvation by refusing to repent of one's sins is indeed unforgivable. Even in the bible there a someone asking God to help with his unbelief.
You have expressed what I believe much better than I did. Rejecting God's gift of salvation and refusing to repent is what I think I was trying to express. Thanks
 

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"Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”"


Mark 3
 

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The unpardonable or unforgivable sin is mentioned in three of the four Gospels. More specifically, it's mentioned in Matthew 12, Mark 3 and Luke 12.

Jesus mentions in these passages that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

Some say blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unbelief. Others say it's attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the work of demons/Satan or vice versa. Some say it's when you accuse Jesus himself and/or his miracles of being demonic or satanic. And there are other theories of what it is as well.

So what exactly is the unpardonable sin? Well, to put it slightly tongue-in-cheek, it depends on who you ask.


Good explanation and thanks.
 

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When we accept Jesus Christ, we do so because we have come to belief and repentance, right? We no longer are unbelievers.

However, I could have all of this wrong, thus my question remains "What is the unpardonable sin?"
Well, put into the context, the "unpardonable sin" was saying that Jesus had an impure spirit.
 

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It makes sense, to me at least, that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is about denying the working of the Holy Spirit as it convicts us and rejecting its conviction of our sin and need of God. Once more I struggle with adequate words to explain my belief but here it is anyway.
 

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It makes sense, to me at least, that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is about denying the working of the Holy Spirit as it convicts us and rejecting its conviction of our sin and need of God. Once more I struggle with adequate words to explain my belief but here it is anyway.
No, I think you did a pretty good job actually. God has given each of us a measure of faith. If we hear the Gospel, and reject it, there is no other sacrifice that will clear us of our sin debt we owe, which is eternal death.

Everyone who rejects Christ has blasphemed the Holy Spirit. He has worked in their life, through various means, to bring them to Jesus. At some point, their hearts are hardened to the Gospel message through continuous rejection. That's why REJECTING Him is the only unforgivable sin.
 

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No, I think you did a pretty good job actually. God has given each of us a measure of faith. If we hear the Gospel, and reject it, there is no other sacrifice that will clear us of our sin debt we owe, which is eternal death.

Everyone who rejects Christ has blasphemed the Holy Spirit. He has worked in their life, through various means, to bring them to Jesus. At some point, their hearts are hardened to the Gospel message through continuous rejection. That's why REJECTING Him is the only unforgivable sin.
The only problem with this is the fact that Jesus did not say "whoever rejects me", but "but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit".

Your explanation got too far away from the context. Even though I think that what you wrote is right, I do not think it fits exactly this verse.
 
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The only problem with this is the fact that Jesus did not say "whoever rejects me", but "but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit".

Your explanation got too far away from the context. Even though I think that what you wrote is right, I do not think it fits exactly this verse.
The Trinity points to each other. Jesus spoke in His Father's Name. It is the Holy Spirit's job to point to Jesus. Here is Jesus alluding to the fatal sin of rejecting Him:
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And here John explains this blasphemy: 1 John 2[FONT=&quot]22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

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The context was that they didn't believe who Jesus said He was, EVEN though they saw the miracles He performed.
 

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If I understand scripture correctly, there is only one unpardonable sin. The sin of unbelief. I can be wrong of course. What say you?
Nope.. A person who once disbelieved can later come to believe and be saved.. So unbelief is a pardonable sin..

The only unpardonable sin is called Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.. Jesus identified it when a scribe from Jerusalem committed it by declaring the Signs that Jesus did ( like healings and others) where done by the power of beelzebub the king of the demons..

Now Jesus did His miracles by the power of the Holy Spirit.. So the scribe was declaring that the Holy Spirit was a demon and thus he had blasphemed the Holy Spirit..

Mark 3: KJV
22 "¶ And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. {23} And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? {24} And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. {25} And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. {26} And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. {27} No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house. {28} Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: {29} But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: {30} Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."
 

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Nope.. A person who once disbelieved can later come to believe and be saved.. So unbelief is a pardonable sin..

The only unpardonable sin is called Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.. Jesus identified it when a scribe from Jerusalem committed it by declaring the Signs that Jesus did ( like healings and others) where done by the power of beelzebub the king of the demons..

Now Jesus did His miracles by the power of the Holy Spirit.. So the scribe was declaring that the Holy Spirit was a demon and thus he had blasphemed the Holy Spirit..

Mark 3: KJV
22 "¶ And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. {23} And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? {24} And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. {25} And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. {26} And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. {27} No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house. {28} Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: {29} But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: {30} Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."
Very strong, and remember this is our Lord and Savior speaking these words here. See how they interpreted it? Saying Christ had an unclean spirit was the key verse to back up any claim of the unpardonable sin
 

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Very strong, and remember this is our Lord and Savior speaking these words here. See how they interpreted it? Saying Christ had an unclean spirit was the key verse to back up any claim of the unpardonable sin
Yup. They were in DANGER of eternal damnation. They continued in their unbelief of who Jesus is, and never accepted Him.
Merely saying those words wasn't what doomed them, it was their unbelief in who He is and what He has done that did.
 

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To avoid confusion. Look at this way. Jesus says there is only ONE unpardonable sin. So if the ONE was saying Jesus has a demon, then if you didnt say or believe Jesus had a demon but rejected the Gospel, and receive Him, and live a complete sinful life, you would be forgiven because you didn't commit the ONE sin!

How could someone reject Jesus and still be saved?

This is why all unsaved will have committed the unpardonable sin.
 
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