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Please have a moderator look over the thread and in particular have the moderator review posts #147-#149. I am not sure, but I believe another poster going by preacher4truth censored a post of mine, then re-posted it and said it was now fixed. The poster might have made several possible misleading and false accusations about what I posted.








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beastslayer1970 said:
Please have a moderator look over the thread and in particular have the moderator review posts #147-#149. I am not sure, but I believe another poster going by preacher4truth censored a post of mine, then re-posted it and said it was now fixed. The poster might have made several possible misleading and false accusations about what I posted.
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This has happened before to many others. Usually it is done with humorous intent, but regardless, as long as it was stated that your post was 'fixed' there really isn't an issue because everyone knows that it was not part of your original post. I would just let it go.
 
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this stuff always gets messy which is why I ignore the name calling and personal insults

IMO, they are simply attempting to create a scene, then report the victim as the instigator

it's nasty but it does happen
 
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beastslayer1970

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7seasrekeyed said:
this stuff always gets messy which is why I ignore the name calling and personal insults

IMO, they are simply attempting to create a scene, then report the victim as the instigator

it's nasty but it does happen
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yes I agree, which is why I created this thread. No longer should people be allowed to play games anymore.
 
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How can a person change another’s? Is it through quotes? That could cause much strife.. thank you for the heads up.
 
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beastslayer1970 said:
Please have a moderator look over the thread and in particular have the moderator review posts #147-#149. I am not sure, but I believe another poster going by preacher4truth censored a post of mine, then re-posted it and said it was now fixed. The poster might have made several possible misleading and false accusations about what I posted.
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That is not a big deal. People do it all the time.
 
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yes I agree, which is why I created this thread. No longer should people be allowed to play games anymore.
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I'm sorry, but I don't think that will happen

let me repost here what I just put in the thread in question:

you know, there is another thread right now wherein a huge personal fight took place

this one seems to be tipping towards personal conflict now

personality conflicts should just be dealt with either personally through pm but if one party consistently twists things, that is when the ignore button should be employed

the Bible does not say be at peace with everyone...it does say to be at peace as much as is possible, which means that peace is on the shoulders of the individual and sometimes that means just forgiving, forgetting and letting things go
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Humor or not, this should not be allowed :(...That surely is violation to the posters personal space...If it has been noted before, then surely a sticky note should be posted in the rules about it, how awful that this has happened...xox...
 
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It happens when someone does "reply with quote". For instance, here's how I edited your post..

loveme1 said:
How can Elvis change another's post? Is it through quotes? That could cause much strife.. thank you for the heads up.
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You can edit it to make it say whatever you want, but as long as the original quote is in print, people will know that the one who "fixed" it, was just being funny..
 
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It happens nearly every day on here, unfortunately..

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Humor or not, this should not be allowed :(...That surely is violation to the posters personal space...If it has been noted before, then surely a sticky note should be posted in the rules about it, how awful that this has happened...xox...
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blue_ladybug said:
It happens when someone does "reply with quote". For instance, here's how I edited your post..



You can edit it to make it say whatever you want, but as long as the original quote is in print, people will know that the one who "fixed" it, was just being funny..
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Elvis was all shook up. :)
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Humor or not, this should not be allowed :(...That surely is violation to the posters personal space...If it has been noted before, then surely a sticky note should be posted in the rules about it, how awful that this has happened...xox...
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I've seen this used in a humorous way and that can be funny

but when the intent is to harm, then it goes in another direction

as a contributor in the thread in question, I saw what happened and it's not a good thing

but I don't think ganging up is either

and no matter what, people are can only monitor themselves until a mod comes along and helps them out and that is not always the ending they were hoping for :p
 
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Hello beastslayer. One of the main mods of this forum has said that it is okay to edit a person's post when it is done in that fashion, so everyone knows what is being posted is not really what you said in the first place. He has even done it himself, in a joking fashion. Of course, often it is done in humor, but one must take the context of the conversation and the person's character who is doing the editing into consideration.

I feel it necessary to add that editing another person's post is sometimes also done for clarity's sake, to isolate that which the other desires to focus on and respond to. Sometimes someone will post a wall of text, and I will edit it down to one or two items to question or agree with. I do not like re-posting walls of text unless I am reformatting the post to make it easier for others to read :)
 
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beastslayer1970 said:
yes I agree, which is why I created this thread. No longer should people be allowed to play games anymore.
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Be carefull, if you say to much, everyone will come after you.. it seems we are not supposed to call people out for sins, we are supposed to be loving and let them do what they want.
 
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loveme1 said:
How can a person change another’s? Is it through quotes?
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Yes.

That could cause much strife.. thank you for the heads up.
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Agreed.

There are a couple of people here who do that fairly regularly. They will quote another poster, then change what the poster said to contradict what they originally said, making it match what they (the person quoting) believe instead.

IMO, it's dishonest, and should not be permitted.
 
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Also, whenever there is a question in my mind about some contention between two people, the original post links allow me, or anyone who cares to investigate, the ability to go back to the beginning of the conversation and follow from the start. For that reason, post links should never be removed. Some people respond to a post and remove the link to the original post, and that, in my opinion, should not be done in many instances. The post link also contains the poster's user name, and that is often useful information in itself :)
 
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Magenta said:
Hello beastslayer. One of the main mods of this forum has said that it is okay to edit a person's post when it is done in that fashion, so everyone knows what is being posted is not really what you said in the first place. He has even done it himself, in a joking fashion. Of course, often it is done in humor, but one must take the context of the conversation and the person's character who is doing the editing into consideration.

I feel it necessary to add that editing another person's post is sometimes also done for clarity's sake, to isolate that which the other desires to focus on and respond to. Sometimes someone will post a wall of text, and I will edit it down to one or two items to question or agree with. I do not like re-posting walls of text unless I am reformatting the post to make it easier for others to read :)
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The censorship thing means nothing.

Making a false accusation and saying my post was "duly noted" does not sound like humor to me and sounds to me like a threat of keeping score or a list of wrongs, in an effort to use against someone.
 
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Whoa! This never occurred to me that anyone could really do this, (even though, in fact, I recently italicizes a few words of Dcon's quote even though he already had those particular typed in all caps! I just wanted to emphasize what he had emphasized, to show emphasis on my notice of his emphasis, that is)....Oh dear, this is not good that I now actually know of this capability.
 
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Here's what happened:


Original post of beastslayer1970:

beastslayer1970 said:
fruits or fruit?

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[SUP]2 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Nitpicking I know, maybe take the splinter out of your own illiteracy of the word before attempting to remove a log from others.
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My response:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/160215-cessationism-8.html#post3346629

Note: KJB was changed to KJV. I also snipped the unnecessary comments at the ending of his post directed at innerfire89 implying him as being Scripturally illiterate, thus my <snip> as to not repost the derogation. I also made everyone fully aware that I made a change to the post, which was taking public responsibility and therefore was appropriately noted, thus "I fixed that..."
 
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beastslayer1970 said:
The censorship thing means nothing.

Making a false accusation and saying my post was "duly noted" does not sound like humor to me and sounds to me like a threat of keeping score or a list of wrongs, in an effort to use against someone.
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Yes, that is when the character of the person you are dealing with comes into play. Anyone can change at any time anything that is in the text box; people with integrity do so with integrity when humor is not the intention. Anyone who cares about what is going on can check to see what you actually did say by following the post links. I am not sure what you mean by censorship. Only the mods can censor/edit posts after the five minute limit allowed for editing has passed. If you feel you have been wronged, reporting is an option, as is using the "Ignore" function, or simply stating your views without directly addressing/quoting people whom you deem to have proven themselves to be less than trustworthy in their associations with you and what you have to say.
 
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